cheato cons?

mmedley

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ok i have seriously been thinking about getting some cheato to bring down the nitrates in one of my tanks.......seems like it is all good benfits from this......are there any cons to cheato i should know before getting some?
 

al mc

Active Member
I do not know any. You will need a light source and good water flow so you will spend a little more on 'electric', but that is a trade off for all the good you get.
 

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/2463451
I do not know any. You will need a light source and good water flow so you will spend a little more on 'electric', but that is a trade off for all the good you get.
I agree. If you do not have a fuge then you can buy a breeder tank. They are plastic holding tanks that float. Take out the divider and the cheato can live in there if you have good lighting. It will be at the top of your tank. There are clips that you can buy to hold it in place. Add some LR rubble or some silt and you have a mini fuge that is in tank.
 

1journeyman

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If you are running chaeto in your main display tank you will need to monitor O2 levels at night. Chaeto and other photsynthetic algaes remove O2 from the water when they are not undergoing photosynthesis. The easiest way to see this is by measuring pH in the morning when the tank is still dark. A dip in pH is bad.
 

matt b

Active Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2463536
If you are running chaeto in your main display tank you will need to monitor O2 levels at night. Chaeto and other photsynthetic algaes remove O2 from the water when they are not undergoing photosynthesis. A dip in pH is bad.
Trying not to jack this thread. but is there anyway around this? im going to be having a in tank fuge and dont want that to happen..
 

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by MaTT B
http:///forum/post/2463552
Trying not to jack this thread. but is there anyway around this? im going to be having a in tank fuge and dont want that to happen..
You simply put the hang on fuge in an area that gets high water flow. This is only an issue if it is in a spot that is not getting a lot of flow.
 

matt b

Active Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2463553
You simply put the hang on fuge in an area of high water flow. This is only an issue if it is in a spot that is not getting a lot of flow.
oo ok ive got the cpr in tank fuge and its got like a built in powerhead.
 

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by MaTT B
http:///forum/post/2463554
oo ok ive got the cpr in tank fuge and its got like a built in powerhead.
Where is the power head pointing? Out of the fuge? You need flow going into and across it. If the power head is built in then it should be made to do what needs to be done. The fuge is meant to be in the display and has a power head attached. It should be perfectly fine.
 

matt b

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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2463556
Where is the power head pointing? Out of the fuge? You need flow going into and across it. If the power head is built in then it should be made to do what needs to be done. The fuge is meant to be in the display and has a power head attached. It should be perfectly fine.
there is a hole on the side of the fuge and you put the powerhead output in that hole. so the water is going in from the DT and then out of the fuge.
 

sepulatian

Moderator
Originally Posted by MaTT B
http:///forum/post/2463560
there is a hole on the side of the fuge and you put the powerhead output in that hole. so the water is going in from the DT and then out of the fuge.

Beautiful, that will work wonderfully
 

gmann1139

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Matt -
Have you had any problems with the fuge's suction cups falling off?
And which size Rio pump is that? 150? 200?
 
N

nereef

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
http:///forum/post/2463536
If you are running chaeto in your main display tank you will need to monitor O2 levels at night. Chaeto and other photsynthetic algaes remove O2 from the water when they are not undergoing photosynthesis. The easiest way to see this is by measuring pH in the morning when the tank is still dark. A dip in pH is bad.

isn't that why most people run their fuges on an opposite light schedule from the display?
 

spanko

Active Member
I want my chaeto to soak up everything so there is little for any alge in the display. I have the second chamber in the back of the biocube 29 set up with a bag of purigen, chemipure elite, heater and a big ball of chaeto. The light is an Azoo plam light running 24/7.
 

matt b

Active Member
Originally Posted by gmann1139
http:///forum/post/2463617
Matt -
Have you had any problems with the fuge's suction cups falling off?
And which size Rio pump is that? 150? 200?
i havent had any problems with it at all. but if you put sand in it i think it might fall
 

stdreb27

Active Member
Originally Posted by gmann1139
http:///forum/post/2463617
Matt -
Have you had any problems with the fuge's suction cups falling off?
And which size Rio pump is that? 150? 200?
I wouldn't think so either, their is almost no weight associated with something like that.
 

gmann1139

Active Member
Yeah I was assuming some type of weight with sand or LR. I'm assuming the PH attaches separately to the glass.
 

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by journeyman
http:///forum/post/2464782
Indeed.
Right, but a small hang in tank is completely do-able. If the current is strong and going through the breeder then it would not cause ph or oxygen drops. I understand what you are saying completely. If I am wrong about this then please let me know.
 

mmedley

Member
Originally Posted by Al Mc
http:///forum/post/2463451
I do not know any. You will need a light source and good water flow so you will spend a little more on 'electric', but that is a trade off for all the good you get.
now what would be considered a good light source for this? i have heard some people say they use a regular house hold bulb, some used a "grow light bulb",.....also many hours of light would it need?
i already have a sump, but i was thinking of making a fuge next to my sump, i was going to use another overflow box which would siphon down to a 10g tank and the output would flow through the cheato and then pumped back into the dt......i have a spare 10g tank and the floresent light that come with it......would this lighting be sufficent?
 
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