yellowtail
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could you take a quaick look here.....
check this out if you run MJ powerheads on a wave maker
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nas19320
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Originally posted by PeejFish
this is going to sound pretty dumb but I really don't know too much about equipment in this hobby just the nessisities (SP) and i know what a power head is...but whats a "wave maker"...thanks alot
A wavemaker is basically anything that attempts to simulate waves by alternating the current in some way. There are many different ways to do this, SQWDS,Sea Swirls, Red Sea Wavemaster Pro, Timed Powerstrips are just a few. SQWD's alternate water from a pump between two outlets to creat alternating current, Sea Swirls rotate the output nozzle across an arc to alternate the current. Wavemaster pro and timed powerstrips require PH's to work and the PH's are turned on and off in timed intervals.
yellowtail
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could i use one on my 40 gallon tank? and if so which maxi-jet? how long intervals should i have in between waves?
gregvabch
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the wavemaster pro, although more expensive, has a soft start feature that produces a lot less wear and tear on your powerheads. it also has 3 different settings of waves and a 4th setting that switches between the 3 standard settings. maxijets are great for wavemakers. i noticed with some old rio pumps i've got that they are very noisy when using them with my wavemaster pro. you could use one on any size tank, and your turnover rate with your powerheads should be around 8 to 12 times an hour.
yellowtail
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for my 40 gallon with softies(and a hammer(lps) ) if i got maxijets how many and what size should i get?how often to go off?
dskidmore
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Go with the 10x turnover rule. 40 gallons, should have a total circulation of 400 GPH. Subtract from that whatever your filtration and main circulation pumps do. Whaterver number is left over is the rating of the wavemaking pumps you need. (Remember the wavemaking pumps are not on at the same time, so you don't get to add thier ratings together.)
spmnarciso
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Golfish...
I believe you stated that you were trying out those new Seio PHs. I just bought a couple, but haven't installed them yet. Should I instead use this maxijet idea? Do you think this way would be more effective for turbulent flow?
I believe you stated that you were trying out those new Seio PHs. I just bought a couple, but haven't installed them yet. Should I instead use this maxijet idea? Do you think this way would be more effective for turbulent flow?
golfish
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Originally posted by spmnarciso
Golfish...
I believe you stated that you were trying out those new Seio PHs. I just bought a couple, but haven't installed them yet. Should I instead use this maxijet idea? Do you think this way would be more effective for turbulent flow?
I'd use the SEIO's....You'll get the same flow from one SEIO 820 as you would from 3 MJ 1200's...The flow from the SEIO's is a much nice flow too. I only started this thread for the guys who run MJ's..
Keep en eye on those SEIO's..Mine freeze up ever couple weeks..I should go check mine now.
dburr
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Keep en eye on those SEIO's..Mine freeze up ever couple weeks..I should go check mine now.
That's not good. I was hoping for better news from these pumps. How many do you have/how many freeze up?
I do have 2 of the MJ1200 on a normal house timer. They switch on for 20mins and off for 20mins. I did it when this thread was started and haven't had a problem yet. It's a pretty random flow, I have them at each end and facing each other.
jauringer, would you say the flowgph is effected any?
golfish, I don't think the Flow rate is affected at all; however, it enlarge the exit so the flow is a little more broad. It actually seems to be a little better that the piercing flow of a normal 1200.
I'll add my .02, I feel because the end is cut off, the water as more of a straight exit and is increased alittle. It doesn't have to get down that tube anymore, and I feel the tube restricks the flow. I have a 802 which is 400GpH and the MJ 1200 is 375. I think the flow is more than the 802 now, well, it feels like it anyway.:happy:
That's not good. I was hoping for better news from these pumps. How many do you have/how many freeze up?
I do have 2 of the MJ1200 on a normal house timer. They switch on for 20mins and off for 20mins. I did it when this thread was started and haven't had a problem yet. It's a pretty random flow, I have them at each end and facing each other.
jauringer, would you say the flowgph is effected any?
golfish, I don't think the Flow rate is affected at all; however, it enlarge the exit so the flow is a little more broad. It actually seems to be a little better that the piercing flow of a normal 1200.
I'll add my .02, I feel because the end is cut off, the water as more of a straight exit and is increased alittle. It doesn't have to get down that tube anymore, and I feel the tube restricks the flow. I have a 802 which is 400GpH and the MJ 1200 is 375. I think the flow is more than the 802 now, well, it feels like it anyway.:happy:
spmnarciso
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Originally posted by golfish
I'd use the SEIO's....You'll get the same flow from one SEIO 820 as you would from 3 MJ 1200's...The flow from the SEIO's is a much nice flow too. I only started this thread for the guys who run MJ's..
Keep en eye on those SEIO's..Mine freeze up ever couple weeks..I should go check mine now.
Do you think its a "lot" issue, with them freezing? Do you know of anyone else that has had this same problem with there's?
golfish
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Originally posted by spmnarciso
Do you think its a "lot" issue, with them freezing? Do you know of anyone else that has had this same problem with there's?
Yeah, I have recently read a few post from guys having the same problem..its the ceramic shafts, just like the POS mag pumps..I'm kind of thinking the Ca and kalk reactor combo has something to do with it.....maybe, I don't know
spmnarciso
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Originally posted by golfish
Yeah, I have recently read a few post from guys having the same problem..its the ceramic shafts, just like the POS mag pumps..I'm kind of thinking the Ca and kalk reactor combo has something to do with it.....maybe, I don't know
So what exactly do you do to unfreeze them? Do you think that 5 - 600GPH PHs in my display too much? Would give me approx. 26X turnover including my return pump.
golfish
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Originally posted by spmnarciso
So what exactly do you do to unfreeze them? Do you think that 5 - 600GPH PHs in my display too much? Would give me approx. 26X turnover including my return pump.
26X? that's all
First you got to soak em in vinegar, then you have to remove the ceramic shaft from the magnet and soak that...
spmnarciso
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Thanks. Sorry to change the subject on the thread.
golfish
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Originally posted by spmnarciso
So what exactly do you do to unfreeze them? Do you think that 5 - 600GPH PHs in my display too much? Would give me approx. 26X turnover including my return pump.
I think 5 powerheads are too much, or should I say to ugly
but the flow is not too much, its fine. I just hate to see you mes up a nice looking tank with poerheads.I use vinegar to clean em. You have to soak em for a while, then take the impeller apart so you can clean the ceramic shaft. The shaft is what has to be cleaned...Be carefull, they break easy.
spmnarciso
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Golfish...have you heard of any success stories of ruuning these new Seio PHs on a wavemaker?
golfish
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Originally posted by spmnarciso
Golfish...have you heard of any success stories of ruuning these new Seio PHs on a wavemaker?
I have heard of people doing it but they haven't been out long enough for there to be a "success stories" Everything I've read suggests they are not made to turn on and off...
Might be some new models coming out that you can run on a wave makers.