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thomas712
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So for those of you who have been doing well with this product, (which I have used many times before) are these fish only systems or full reef tanks?
Chemi-Pure = No water changes?
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mystic7
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Originally Posted by Thomas712
So for those of you who have been doing well with this product, (which I have used many times before) are these fish only systems or full reef tanks?
Originally Posted by Mystic7
I don't recommend dropping them in and not doing water changes again. All I can say is that is the method I've always used and it's always worked for me. If you have a reef tank though, all bets are off. I have a FOWLR.
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So for those of you who have been doing well with this product, (which I have used many times before) are these fish only systems or full reef tanks?
Originally Posted by Mystic7
I don't recommend dropping them in and not doing water changes again. All I can say is that is the method I've always used and it's always worked for me. If you have a reef tank though, all bets are off. I have a FOWLR.
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saltwater8
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Just so everyone knows...
I had a talk with Mr. Boyd, and asked him about the no water changes.
He said that was ok years ago, when people didn't stock their tanks as much as they do now, but he said today, you have to do a water change - although not as often with Chemi-Pure.
:happyfish
I had a talk with Mr. Boyd, and asked him about the no water changes.
He said that was ok years ago, when people didn't stock their tanks as much as they do now, but he said today, you have to do a water change - although not as often with Chemi-Pure.
:happyfish
mystic7
Member
Originally Posted by Saltwater8
Just so everyone knows...
I had a talk with Mr. Boyd, and asked him about the no water changes.
He said that was ok years ago, when people didn't stock their tanks as much as they do now, but he said today, you have to do a water change - although not as often with Chemi-Pure.
:happyfish
Well, not to contradict Mr. Boyd, but as I've said many times I used it on my 140 which was waaaaaaaaaaaay overstocked, with no water changes. That was in 1980.
My brother also currently uses it on a 30 FW tank and hasn't done water changes in 3 years.
Just so everyone knows...
I had a talk with Mr. Boyd, and asked him about the no water changes.
He said that was ok years ago, when people didn't stock their tanks as much as they do now, but he said today, you have to do a water change - although not as often with Chemi-Pure.
:happyfish
Well, not to contradict Mr. Boyd, but as I've said many times I used it on my 140 which was waaaaaaaaaaaay overstocked, with no water changes. That was in 1980.
My brother also currently uses it on a 30 FW tank and hasn't done water changes in 3 years.
moby
Member
Will it regrow hair also?
That was great! If you act now they will throw in a handy- dandy wand that when you wave it all your fish keeping troubles will melt away.
(Possible side effects may include excessive nose hair, decreased credit rating, slurred speech, premature tire wear, IRS audits, tapeworms, temporary blindness, inflamed ego, sleeplessness, drowsiness, sarcastic teenagers, unappreciative inlaws, gout, unbalanced check book, uncontrollable laughing, fits of delusion, memory loss, 20/20 vision, bad breath, and lack of patience.)
Sorry, that was sarcastic. Couldn't help myself.
Just call me "doubting Moby".
That was great! If you act now they will throw in a handy- dandy wand that when you wave it all your fish keeping troubles will melt away.
(Possible side effects may include excessive nose hair, decreased credit rating, slurred speech, premature tire wear, IRS audits, tapeworms, temporary blindness, inflamed ego, sleeplessness, drowsiness, sarcastic teenagers, unappreciative inlaws, gout, unbalanced check book, uncontrollable laughing, fits of delusion, memory loss, 20/20 vision, bad breath, and lack of patience.)
Sorry, that was sarcastic. Couldn't help myself.
Just call me "doubting Moby".
phixer
Active Member
:hilarious I like this stuff called snake oil, you just pour it into your tank and :cheer: viola :cheer: no more water changes. It also improves the fuel economy of electric vehicles. Wonder how trace elements get replaced without water changes? whoops nevermind just dump in a few gallons of "snake oil with trace elements" :hilarious
mystic7
Member
{EDIT - language}All I know is that there are a few people on this board who also use chemi-pure and don't do water changes, and we spend our days enjoying our beautiful tanks, and I never see them posting here about their coral beauty not eating or the strange white flecks on their clown fish or any other nonsense that keeps the rest of you scientists awake all night with worry. Go ahead, do your water changes, make sure the temperature and salinity are within .00001% of the tank water, add your 15 powerheads and feed your fish 10 different kinds of foods soaked in 10 different kinds of vitamins. Us no water change believers will all be here to laugh in your faces when your tanks crash even though you use RO/DI water exclusively and keep your lights on exactly 6.3 hours per day except for actinics which come on precisely 43 minutes before your main lights (268 watts each as per University of Maine recommendations) and go off precisely 38 minutes after your mains. {EDI: LANGUAGE}
{EDIT: PLEASE NOTE THAT FLAMING AND NAME CALLING SUCH AS THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS ON HOW TO RUN TANKS AND WHAT WORKS FOR SOME WILL NOT WORK FOR OTHERS. PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND IDEAS SO LONG AS THEY CAN DO SO AS ADULTS. PLEASE RESPECT THIS. THE NAMES USED ARE NOT APPROPRIATE AND DO NOTHING FOR YOUR ARGUMENT OR OPINIONS}
{EDIT: PLEASE NOTE THAT FLAMING AND NAME CALLING SUCH AS THIS WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS ON HOW TO RUN TANKS AND WHAT WORKS FOR SOME WILL NOT WORK FOR OTHERS. PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND IDEAS SO LONG AS THEY CAN DO SO AS ADULTS. PLEASE RESPECT THIS. THE NAMES USED ARE NOT APPROPRIATE AND DO NOTHING FOR YOUR ARGUMENT OR OPINIONS}
mystic7
Member
My shrooms were given to me and thrown into the tank, the conditions are not good for shrooms (1.019 salinity for example). If they die, they die, my post was out of curiosity over what caused them to "melt". In actual fact they aren't melted, they're still alive, just not "thriving" which is to be expected given the salinity. My LR is not dying, never said it was, I just had other expectations of what it should look like but was informed that my LR is perfectly normal (as you would know if you were honest and read the rest of that thread), and the Hippo Tang had what appears to be hlle when I got him, he's been doing great with it (whatever it is) for 5 months and is the biggest eater in the tank. Happy now?
And if he does die sooner rather than later I can replace him with the money I saved by not buying every dry goods version of snake oil that all you scientists waste your money on.
And if he does die sooner rather than later I can replace him with the money I saved by not buying every dry goods version of snake oil that all you scientists waste your money on.
saltwater8
Member
Holy crap! :scared:
What happened to my thread....lol
All I know is that since adding the Chemi-Pure to my canister filter 4 days ago, my water has never looked as clear as it does now...
What happened to my thread....lol
All I know is that since adding the Chemi-Pure to my canister filter 4 days ago, my water has never looked as clear as it does now...
emmitt
Member
That hippo has been in your tank since february at the least as still has VERY noticeable hlle. Try learning how to treat your own fish's disease rather than insult us for how we run our tanks.
p.s.- he can eat as much as he wants but you obviously dont know WHAT to feed him as he is still noticeably diseased!!! so no, im not happy now. That majestic angel really liked your water quality as well.
Also, the tang's ick didnt magically clear up because you raised the temp a little and fed it more. with all the extra time not doing water changes, You may want to read up a little on ick and the stages it goes thru,lol.
p.s.- he can eat as much as he wants but you obviously dont know WHAT to feed him as he is still noticeably diseased!!! so no, im not happy now. That majestic angel really liked your water quality as well.
Also, the tang's ick didnt magically clear up because you raised the temp a little and fed it more. with all the extra time not doing water changes, You may want to read up a little on ick and the stages it goes thru,lol.
moby
Member
Do I think water changes are necessary? Yes. Why? Because it is not harmful to do them. I have never seen anything in my 15+ years that has convinced me that water changes are not neccessary. There is no product on the market for the hobbiest that makes changing water an obsolete practice. If you keep marine fish you should do water changes. We all know the hundreds of reasons why. I can't think of one reason to not do them.
Unless some can provide better information or proof that I'm waisting my time I'll stick with the above statement.
Do I side with caution? Damn right!! These fish are expensive/remarkable and I owe them a healthy, normal lifespan while providing me with years of enjoyment.
Does this seem like bad advice to anyone?
Last word I will speak on this subject, if you are comfortable with "wonder" products, God bless you.
And Mystic7, lighten up, there are some decaffinated brands on the market that are just as tasty.
Humor will make for a longer, happier life.
Moby
Unless some can provide better information or proof that I'm waisting my time I'll stick with the above statement.
Do I side with caution? Damn right!! These fish are expensive/remarkable and I owe them a healthy, normal lifespan while providing me with years of enjoyment.
Does this seem like bad advice to anyone?
Last word I will speak on this subject, if you are comfortable with "wonder" products, God bless you.
And Mystic7, lighten up, there are some decaffinated brands on the market that are just as tasty.
Humor will make for a longer, happier life.
Moby
phixer
Active Member
Originally Posted by moby
Unless some can provide better information or proof that I'm waisting my time I'll stick with the above statement.
Does this seem like bad advice to anyone?
Last word I will speak on this subject, if you are comfortable with "wonder" products, God bless you.
And Mystic7, lighten up, there are some decaffinated brands on the market that are just as tasty.
Humor will make for a longer, happier life.
Moby
:hilarious
I believe snake oil comes in decaf also, it elimnates the need for water changes and reduces the occasional fits of rage associated with being wrong.
Unless some can provide better information or proof that I'm waisting my time I'll stick with the above statement.
Does this seem like bad advice to anyone?
Last word I will speak on this subject, if you are comfortable with "wonder" products, God bless you.
And Mystic7, lighten up, there are some decaffinated brands on the market that are just as tasty.
Humor will make for a longer, happier life.
Moby
:hilarious
I believe snake oil comes in decaf also, it elimnates the need for water changes and reduces the occasional fits of rage associated with being wrong.