Child abuse!! Or is it???

meowzer

Moderator
OK...IMO YES...this is child abuse....I once knew someone who gave their kids cold medicine to make them sleep during the day so they could sleep half the day too.....IMO...that's child abuse
What do you think???
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38347257..._and_parenting
Parents and caregivers who slip young, healthy children doses of common drugs — including painkillers, sedatives and laxatives — are fueling a dangerous but hidden form of child abuse, new research finds.
About 160 kids are hurt in the United States each year — and at least two die — after being forced to ingest antidepressants, cough and cold medicines, even drugs to treat high blood pressure. Many are given alcohol, marijuana or cocaine, according to the first large-scale study of the issue published in the Journal of Pediatrics.
“We believe that the malicious use of pharmaceuticals may be an under-recognized form and or component of child maltreatment,” said Dr. Shan Yin, who led the study conducted at the Rocky Mountain Poison and Drug Center in Denver.
Yin, a medical toxicologist, analyzed more than 21.4 million calls to the National Poison Data System between 2000 and 2008. When he looked at cases of drug and alcohol poisoning coded as “malicious” in children younger than 7, Shin found 1,439 cases of kids who’d been exposed. Some 172 children were seriously injured and 18 died.
They included a 4-month-old girl killed in 2003 when a babysitter gave her a full bottle of decongestant, and a 5-year-old girl who died in 2006 after her mother gave her antidepressants and muscle relaxants.
“I just don’t know what goes on in the minds of people who try to harm their child,” said Yin, an emergency room doctor who has treated cases of abuse.
Parents may be angry, frustrated
Poison center records don’t include motives for the poisonings, said Yin. But he speculates that known causes for child abuse — punishment, frustration with the demands of parenting — may play a role in drug-induced harm.
.“There’s a very wide spectrum, from frank homicides to people who are not trying to hurt their children,” he said. “Maybe they want them to go to sleep for an hour so they can go to sleep or go shopping.”
In some cases, an adult’s warped sense of amusement at seeing a child intoxicated could be the motivation.
“I think somebody might think it’s funny,” Yin said.
Sedatives were used in more than half the cases Yin studied, often in combination with other drugs. Pain relievers were found in 176 kids; laxatives were used in 67. The average age of the victims was 2, which is consistent with other types of child abuse.
While the number of documented malicious drug-abuse cases was small, Yin says his research is likely just a snapshot of a much larger problem. Abuse via malicious drug or alcohol abuse is not captured by current definitions of child maltreatment, which include physical, sexual and emotional use and neglect.
When it does occur, not all cases are reported to the nation’s poison centers, Yin said.
For instance, the poison center data didn’t include the case of William Allen Cunningham, a Georgia man who in 2006 poisoned his 3-year-old son and 18-month-old daughter by feeding them canned soup laced with hot peppers and lighter fluid and later with prescription antidepressants. Cunningham then tried to extort money from the Campbell Soup Co. by claiming the soup was tainted when he bought it.
He was sentenced to 100 years in prison last year, according to news reports.
Links to physical abuse
Poisoning likely is occurring in conjunction with other kinds of child abuse, including the nearly 150,000 cases of physical abuse reported each year, Yin said. He’d like to see comprehensive drug screening for children who show up in emergency departments with suspicious injuries.
Child abuse caused by poisoning is a rare but recognized harm, said Jim Hmurovich, president and chief executive of Prevent Child Abuse America, an advocacy agency. While he had yet to review the new study, Hmurovich said it points to the need for better child abuse prevention efforts.
“I don’t think it’s right at any time to give unprescribed medicine to a child,” he said. “Did the parent do it out of frustration? Did they do it at their wits’ end? If that’s the case, we need to be even more aggressive in terms of parent education.”
Yin said he hopes his study makes people think twice about using drugs to calm children.
“For parents, there’s a spectrum. I personally know friends who have given children Benadryl on a plane,” he said. “But any time you give a child a non-prescribed medication, you run the risk of harming the child.”
 

flower

Well-Known Member

People have been doing that for a very long time. When My kids were small they would not settle down for bed. I started at 9:00 and they FINALLY went to sleep at 12:00, I had to get up at 5:00am...I was so tired. My aunt said to give them a little whiskey and they would settle right down, I didn't do it because I felt it was wrong, but it was common practice by others.
Now folks are using other things besides whiskey..but it is the same thing for a age old problem...kids have endless energy and we grown-ups are too tired and can't keep up.
Now they have a show called Super nanny....Oh if only I had that show when my kids were small, the problem was that I put my kids to bed together, so children do what children do...they played...DUH
 

reefraff

Active Member
My parents would rub whiskey on our gums when we were teething which was very common back in the day.
I could see maybe giving a kid a safe dose of cold medicine if they weren't falling asleep but not on a regular basis.
 

deejeff442

Active Member
back in my day when i was told to go to bed i did or i would get a spanking.to say the least.seems to me any discipline to children is child abuse now a days.personally i dont have a problem with parents giving a spanking to their kids.but drugging them hell no.
 

cranberry

Active Member
With today's awareness, I consider it abuse. But depending on motivation, I don't consider it punishable as other forms of abuse. A good month long parenting class should stop the practice. 1st offense (again... depending on motivation) awareness classes. 2nd offense = punishment.
 

mrdc

Active Member
I stll believe Kacy Anthony did this to her daughter so she could party and something terible went wrong and she tried to cover it up.
 

flower

Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3290301
With today's awareness, I consider it abuse. But depending on motivation, I don't consider it punishable as other forms of abuse. A good month long parenting class should stop the practice. 1st offense (again... depending on motivation) awareness classes. 2nd offense = punishment.

I so much agree with you...+ 1000

That's why I made the Super Nanny comment, folks don't know better and they are at their wits end.
 

reefraff

Active Member
I think people should have a license to breed. By the same token if the PC do gooders would quit making excuses for kids who mess up and bring back an arcane method of correcting children referred to in some circles as punishment we wouldn't have so many problems with them.
 

scottnlisa

Member
Originally Posted by reefraff
http:///forum/post/3290299
My parents would rub whiskey on our gums when we were teething which was very common back in the day.
I could see maybe giving a kid a safe dose of cold medicine if they weren't falling asleep but not on a regular basis.
Same here. But my parents used vodka to numb my gums
 

scottnlisa

Member
I have had my son's doctors in the past tell me to give my son Benedryl (25mg) to help him sleep. But me sons also suffers from allergies. I have never given him anything just to make him sleep. If he is miserable because of allergies(runny nose, watery eyes, drainage) then he gets a Claratin.
But I had a neighbor that would give her kids prescription strength cough syrup to make her kids go to sleep so she could go out. And her doctor would write the Rx's for her to get refills. That is totally wrong and I stopped talking to her when I found that out.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by scottnlisa
http:///forum/post/3290370
Same here. But my parents used vodka to numb my gums
LOL...was that so you couldn't SMELL the evidence

I realize our parents and grandparents had a lot of home-made remedies.....they also thought smoking wouldn't kill you either

The person I was referring to in my OP....drugged the child on purpose cause she was always up late partying and wanted to sleep till 2 in the afternoon......that is not "safely" medicating an ill sleepless child..
That reference is IMO 100% abuse.....the old days of alcohol on a q-tip to numb a tooth..IMO...was not...BUT these days they sell Orajel or Anbesol
 

reefraff

Active Member
I know someone who is using the benedryl as a sleeping pill for a 4 year old as we speak so to say. This kid doesn't really have a routine so I could see doing it for short period of time just to get the kid into a routine but it isn't a substitute for good parenting.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Personally....I never used anything for my kids to sleep. if they slept...I slept...If not I didn't either
If they NEVER slept, I would have taken them to the dr....and had the dr prescribe or suggest what I should do
they got medicine for illnesses and pain....
 

mrdc

Active Member
My kids get benadryl regularly in the winter to help their breathing and a side effect is that it does make them sleepy. However, I have never given them medicine with the sole purpose of making them go to bed. Heck, one time my daughter was on some sort of prescription meds and the doc said it would make her really draowsy. He was so wrong. My duaghter was wired after taking that stuff which I believe was due to all the sugar in it for taste.
 
Top