fishman830
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I can live a happy life with out religeon.. as i said earlier i don't belive there is a heaven or hell.. you just die.. that's the end of it
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kittykitty
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I don't have faith in any higher being, and i have lots to live for. I don't live for something that can't be proven exists. I live for my own well-being and happiness.
kittykitty
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So me not believing in a god makes me selfish?
fishman830
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Originally posted by KittyKitty
I don't have faith in any higher being, and i have lots to live for. I don't live for something that can't be proven exists. I live for my own well-being and happiness.
i'm not alone!
kittykitty
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So then... I shouldn't live for myself, rather for other people. Sorry, but that doesn't make any sense to me. If I simply lived to help other people, then I wouldn't be happy. Just because I don't believe in God, and because I like to be happy doesn't mean that I don't care about other people.
fishman830
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Pardon, but do fish or any animal for that matter have religeon.. or are they there just to live.. to live as long as they can.. i don't see them going to church.. chanting prayers like they have a gun to their head.. and i don't want' to offend anyone.. be that's just how i feel
fishman830
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we're only above them through evolution
fishman830
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we could go on all day.. there's no way i'm changing my mind
brownleaf
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IMO, study it as a subject that you don't necessarily believe in. Just to understant that religions are part of human history and philosophy (regarding the ture or not). This will give you broader view toward everything later in your life.
you have to re-take the test, right? Will, wish luck this time!
you have to re-take the test, right? Will, wish luck this time!
fishman830
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i don't just pick sides.. i go o n the side i believe to be true
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daniel411
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Originally posted by Fishman830
Correct me if i'm wrong but if saying jesus did walk this earth than
in a sense, didn't jesus do the opposite of what he was told.. he did what he believed.. that others didn't..
i'd honestly rather go with what i believe in than get write down somthing i don't
I took over a day praying about how to reply to that statement. As I had no idea how to begin to refute your statement without typing in all of the gospels. You have to realize how foolish it is to look at a single piece of a jig saw puzzle, and think you know what the entire big picture of the puzzle is. If you're looking at a single verse, or a small handful, without reading all of the word... you're doing the same thing. If you read the word you'll see how much error is in your statement. Fishman, you're following a spirit of rebellion... don't let it carry you away. You've already stated in this thread that you refuse to believe in a god. Do you not realize you're placing science on a pedestal, making it the god of your heart? You wouldn't be going on and on in this thread if something wasn't stirring you... the Holy Spirit is still touching your soul, creating a spark, it is whats driving you to keep this debate going. Your heart is being hardened by maintaining science as a god in your heart.... do you not realize how its insanity that you're questioning astro-quantum physics when you don't even have a comprehension of basic algebra... what you're holding as the god of your heart is based on a foundation of misunderstanding-lies... I'll pray that the Spirit will stir you...before your heart hardens and places a blindfold over your eyes and logic.
Originally posted by Fishman830
how are you going to take -5*-5 dollars you owe and turn it into money you gain?
You're looking at it in a completely wrong and foolish way.
For your debts theory... lets call them transactions of net cash flow either negative/bad sales/debts. or positive/income/profit/money/etc. you gain.
If you have 5 transactions... of $5 debts... we have
+5 * -5 = -25 we're loseing money
You're saying in your theory we have -5*-5
Think about that... what does that mean
well we have -5 transactions of -5 dollars
thats not a positive number of transactions, thats a negative number. People are actually sending us money for free i
So you can't add -5 times its self 5 POSITIVE times.
Sorry.. thats actually isn't quite clear terminology.. but you should be able to get the idea.
fishman830
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two math teachers told me that that's just the way it goes..
I think there has to be a solid reason for it then.. can't just say that's what happens when you get a porblem like that i want an in depth reason
I think there has to be a solid reason for it then.. can't just say that's what happens when you get a porblem like that i want an in depth reason
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sinner's girl
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If you want the research papers I can find them for you.
no thanks, I'll trust you on that. simply saying that at 13, God was so not our primary focus. Maybe it is to those who take CCD since they don't get religion 5 days a weeks (class m-th, church friday, and for some also Sunday. It was something we took for granted. Then again, at 13, we didn't talk about stuff like what we beleived in, so who knows.
Hmm went to Cahtolic schools and they taught evolution....
Ditto here, but it was taught in science/bio class NOT religion class.
I was a straight A student except for religion.
I was a straight A student ONLY in religion. :notsure: untill one year my mom got upset I had an A in religion yet a D in French, so I got a B in Religion, and damn that was hard to do.
I couldn't make myself put answers on a test that they wanted to hear, but I didn't necessarily believe. I never had to do this. Our test were memorizing the prayers, beaitutes, sacerments and such and of course there were tests on the text book. But never was I asked what I beleived in.
My classmate didn't have to take a test or do anything (well, we all had to attend two retreats that year). I always thought CCD was just to teach the public school kids the facts and stuff about the religion (you know, the stuff you don't really get in church).
because my parents are making me
I'm sorry, but this is the WRONG answer. Though I understand, as I've met parents like them. Have you tried to explain to them, that by confirming you believe in what you don't believe you are lying to the church members and others? In other words, it's just a show, an outward form, if you will. To me, it sounds like your parents don't care about what you believe in. while I understand them not taking a kid (you are a kid right? 13ish?) seriously, it doesn't mean the should force you do be a religion you don't want to be. (this would lead me to my issue with baptism as a baby...)
I still don't understand why it bothers you? If you don't believe, don't confirm! You can always confirm later if that's what you want. Stand up for what you believe it (that's what Jesus did! Of course in real life, we often have to do things just to make our parents happy and to keep the peace.
study it as a subject that you don't necessarily believe in.
This is what got me through 10 years of religion classes.
i'm not alone!
No, you're not. Your parents can't make you believe, they shouldn't be forcing you to confirm something you don't believe in.
I think there has to be a solid reason for it then.. can't just say that's what happens when you get a porblem like that i want an in depth reason
sounds like me with math... I always asked why....
no thanks, I'll trust you on that. simply saying that at 13, God was so not our primary focus. Maybe it is to those who take CCD since they don't get religion 5 days a weeks (class m-th, church friday, and for some also Sunday. It was something we took for granted. Then again, at 13, we didn't talk about stuff like what we beleived in, so who knows.
Hmm went to Cahtolic schools and they taught evolution....
Ditto here, but it was taught in science/bio class NOT religion class.
I was a straight A student except for religion.
I was a straight A student ONLY in religion. :notsure: untill one year my mom got upset I had an A in religion yet a D in French, so I got a B in Religion, and damn that was hard to do.
I couldn't make myself put answers on a test that they wanted to hear, but I didn't necessarily believe. I never had to do this. Our test were memorizing the prayers, beaitutes, sacerments and such and of course there were tests on the text book. But never was I asked what I beleived in.
My classmate didn't have to take a test or do anything (well, we all had to attend two retreats that year). I always thought CCD was just to teach the public school kids the facts and stuff about the religion (you know, the stuff you don't really get in church).
because my parents are making me
I'm sorry, but this is the WRONG answer. Though I understand, as I've met parents like them. Have you tried to explain to them, that by confirming you believe in what you don't believe you are lying to the church members and others? In other words, it's just a show, an outward form, if you will. To me, it sounds like your parents don't care about what you believe in. while I understand them not taking a kid (you are a kid right? 13ish?) seriously, it doesn't mean the should force you do be a religion you don't want to be. (this would lead me to my issue with baptism as a baby...)
I still don't understand why it bothers you? If you don't believe, don't confirm! You can always confirm later if that's what you want. Stand up for what you believe it (that's what Jesus did! Of course in real life, we often have to do things just to make our parents happy and to keep the peace.
study it as a subject that you don't necessarily believe in.
This is what got me through 10 years of religion classes.
i'm not alone!
No, you're not. Your parents can't make you believe, they shouldn't be forcing you to confirm something you don't believe in.
I think there has to be a solid reason for it then.. can't just say that's what happens when you get a porblem like that i want an in depth reason
sounds like me with math... I always asked why....
fishman830
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Originally posted by Daniel411
You're looking at it in a completely wrong and foolish way.
How, may i ask does one conclude it's foolish?