clam help.....wax or other

[rubberduck]

hey i just got this clam and he was doign well for about 2 weeks then i moved an acro out of his way to give him more light. After that he started having his mantle kind of flip upward...is this PM

. he has grown since i got him as he has that white lining of his shell since i got him. he has really done well until i moved the acro..he might have gotten more flow and light at that spot and be stressed..The thing is he was perfect for 2 weeks and expanding more than at the lfs...aka premium aquatics. (its a 10min drive for me)
im ready to do the 30 min fresh water dip suggested by promise in another thread.
i just wanna know if this is pinched mantle and i plan to put him ina bucket with fresh (warm at tank temperature) with a little calcium/alk dosing that has a low powerhead for flow.
is this ok for him. and can i remove him between tank and bucket through the air. is he ok with exposure to air?
travis
ps see how his mantle is fliped up?

 

[rubberduck]

anyone able to help me..

 

[hkdonreefs]

Exposing him to air shouldnt hurt him dont know about the rest. Are u sure its not just the current blowing his mantle up. Mine was doing that so I adjusted my return.

 

[rappa]

Looks fine to me...

 

[rubberduck]

but his mantle seems to flip and curl as time goes by. Im worried as the other side is getting the same way. Plz help would be greatly appreciated from anyone..thx for the advice already
travis

 

[jonnywater]

I'll just give you my two cents. But I cant recommend either way and am not to be held responsible for any of the info (legal stuff) blah blah blah
It does look slightly like pinched mantle or that something was ripping chunks out. I would go with that because it doesnt look like even if did unpinch, that section would be completely back together. Also fresh water dips I would only use in EXTREME situations when it comes to clams. It is VERY hard to do and you have to make sure that your PH is EXACTLY the same as your tanks PH. However that should be a last resort because it is very stressfull towards the clam. I lost a clam doing one. It usually takes about 2-3 weeks for pinch mantle to possibly undue itself so I would give it longer.

 

[dburr]

No, don't expose it to air. If it gets air trapped inside it is good as dead. The only way to take it out is to make sure it's tightly closed up and then put it in water and make sure all the air is out. The better way is to never take it out of water, use a bag, bucket/dish, whatever to move it.
Any way, curled mantel could be from the more current you just gave it. Leave it be for a couple days see if it moves itself sideways or something to get out of the current. And for god's sake, don't give it a fresh water bath. That is insane to do something so drastic because you think it MAY be stressed. Life is more tollerable than most think.
I don't mean to be harsh but take a deep breath. Doing anything fast in this hobby is the way to kill things. If something doesn't LOOK right, observe it for another day or two. See if it gets better or worse then make corrections.
Sorry, i'm getting down from my soap box now.....

 

[rubberduck]

well i appreciate the advice. anyways dburr i have observed it for about 4-5 days and it has not moved itself. also the reason i made this thread is to make sure I DONT have to dip it.
It has good color and is doing well besides that.
on second thought it does not have any tears and is only curled a little. Also i asked a lady at the store about exposure to oxgen and she said its fine since she removes heres every week and scrubs the shell of alge. She said she takes hers completly out of the tank and scrubs it. :notsure:

strage how that goes against alot from what i heard.
any more suggestions would be great.
travis

 

[dburr]

Well, at any rate, the clam looks good to me.
Most new people to clams don't know how to handle them, like I stated above, if you make sure it tight before lifting, your good. I apolajize again.

 

[rubberduck]

Originally Posted by dburr
Well, at any rate, the clam looks good to me.
Most new people to clams don't know how to handle them, like I stated above, if you make sure it tight before lifting, your good. I apolajize again.

no need to apologize. It was good information I needed and helped me do the right thing. Anyways today it looks better so im excited that maybe its finaly getting used to the variables at that spot (light,flow,etc)
travis

 

[merredeth]

Originally Posted by RUBBERDUCK
Also i asked a lady at the store about exposure to oxgen and she said its fine since she removes heres every week and scrubs the shell of alge. She said she takes hers completly out of the tank and scrubs it. :notsure:

strage how that goes against alot from what i heard.
any more suggestions would be great.
travis
Think about what you wrote for a second.... The LFS exposes it to air, and then SELLS it to someone and a few weeks later it is dead. Then guess what? Ya got a customer coming back in either wanting to replace the clam or buys something else. An LFS is in the business to SELL us live stuff and turnover the products they have shipped in.
If the LFS does a lot of business, how does the LFS really know the success rate of the clams after they are exposed to air?
An LFS like this wouldn't get my business.
I say error on the side of caution and don't expose it to air.
Denise M.

 

[rubberduck]

Originally Posted by Merredeth
Think about what you wrote for a second.... The LFS exposes it to air, and then SELLS it to someone and a few weeks later it is dead. Then guess what? Ya got a customer coming back in either wanting to replace the clam or buys something else. An LFS is in the business to SELL us live stuff and turnover the products they have shipped in.
If the LFS does a lot of business, how does the LFS really know the success rate of the clams after they are exposed to air?
An LFS like this wouldn't get my business.
I say error on the side of caution and don't expose it to air.
Denise M.

No No the lady exposes Her clam to air in Her tank. Premium aquatics try not to overly mess with there clams and all them seem farly healthy.
travis

 

[wax32]

Hey, I came to this thread late. My only experience with a clam was having one for 4 days and it died, so I am no use! Glad to hear it is looking better.

 

[rubberduck]

Hey i just noticed that you had posted min before and wanted your oppinion on it. He seems to be getting worse than better, i tryed to trun a powerhead accross the tank away from him and he does it again

. jeese i hate to messs up his getting a customed to the variables. This is a sps tank and has good flow but he doesnt seem to like it alot. He might be better if i left him alone (which im doing right now...self control.) hopfuly he will turns better. also what is the definition of Pinched Mantle. his mantle more flips backward, it might be him, or the flow; but i think it might be both. Yeah if i get another...hes the sand loving type lol.
travis

 

[wax32]

Mantle flipping backward isn't pinched mantle.

 

[rubberduck]

ok thats good news...i guess

I will contiue to watch him and just give him time. the worst thing i could do would be to over react and do something drastic.any identifications would be great though.
thanks for all the help and i feel better

travis