clams under PC
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robsw
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i know u didnt really want opinionated answers, but i actually hae some experiance because in my first tank, 10g with 50watt PC, i put in a dersa. Now this was a stupid thing to do but i was a noob. the clam looked great for about a month, then it started losing its color and stopped opening as wide. So all in all i gave it back to the LFS.
zoie2
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My LFS got a bunch of those little bright blue and green clams. When I saw them I was excited and asked if I could keep one in my tank. (12 gal. aquapod with pc's) he said I COULD, but he wouldn't suggest it. Would it live-yes, would it be good-no. In time they all sold but one. Over the next several weeks it was there it slowly lost it's color. It went to a yucky brown/tan color. It's still there after 3 months, it is still living, but not very well.
ibew
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wow I would have thought some of the mods here would have tried it to see results or experimented in some way can't believe there isn't more evidence or week by week analysais on this subject does anybody out there have anything that is not opinionated somethig they experienced for them selfs on this subject.
viper_930
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Here's the thread with pics. https://www.saltwaterfish.com/vb/show...1&page=5&pp=50
I want to point out he said this too:
Originally Posted by Brooklyn Johnny
I DO NOT recommend reefkeepers keep clams or sps under PCs, and it will only work under a very small percentage of circumstances under the care of experienced reefers...
Yes it can be done but it is not ideal and not what I or anyone should recommend... just because I do something does not mean I recommend it to everyone. If I had PCs on my 65 gallon the sps and clams would not last long at all.
I would agree completely with the above quote.
I want to point out he said this too:
Originally Posted by Brooklyn Johnny
I DO NOT recommend reefkeepers keep clams or sps under PCs, and it will only work under a very small percentage of circumstances under the care of experienced reefers...
Yes it can be done but it is not ideal and not what I or anyone should recommend... just because I do something does not mean I recommend it to everyone. If I had PCs on my 65 gallon the sps and clams would not last long at all.
I would agree completely with the above quote.
tarponiser
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HERE'S MY CLAM UNDER PC'S. ITS DOING GREAT. I DO HAVE IT FURTHER UP IN THE TANK BUT AGAIN DOING GREAT.
teen
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Originally Posted by tarponiser
HERE'S MY CLAM UNDER PC'S. ITS DOING GREAT. I DO HAVE IT FURTHER UP IN THE TANK BUT AGAIN DOING GREAT.
how long have you had it though? any before and after pics?
the reason no one is responding with scientific evidence is because people realize that calms neeed strong lighting. if your this interested in keeping a clam, at least by vho's.
HERE'S MY CLAM UNDER PC'S. ITS DOING GREAT. I DO HAVE IT FURTHER UP IN THE TANK BUT AGAIN DOING GREAT.
how long have you had it though? any before and after pics?
the reason no one is responding with scientific evidence is because people realize that calms neeed strong lighting. if your this interested in keeping a clam, at least by vho's.
reefkprz
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I have a clam under PCs and reg flourescent, but it is placed about 8" from the lights, at noon it has about 500watts of light, which is just barely sufficient IMO, but I am also in the process of upgradeing my lights to mh I knew when I bought the clam this would be short term, I have had the clam for 2 months and its doing great, but also where I am unsure of the overall lighting I make sure it gets plenty of phyto to eat to help for the lack of superintense lighting. this clam was also tank raised (somesay it doesnt make much of a difference I dont know myself I'm just stating info). Keeping under less light would be risky IMO. my clam pic is my avatar.
ibew
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the reason why I posted this tread because this hobby isn't a proven science not even close in my opinion yet and may never be but what I do know is I like to see hard facts and do test for my self to see if they work or not and the pros and cons also I wanted to know if there were any people in here that had been running PCs for clams and sps and just get some info on whyand how it worked for them so try to keep your opinions for your own tread thankyou
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scoobs
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I can tell you for 100% for sure fact it can be done.. with enough light.. i have 400 watts on a 46g tank and so far I have had nothing thats done bad lighting wise.. I once had my tank setup with almost 100% acropora and my wife says I stopped paying as much attention to the tank but I honestly dont know what went wrong the whole tank crashed overnight.
I got a 1" frag from a place in cleveland.. was acro milli and before things went south it was about 7" tall and 12" around
I got a 1" frag from a place in cleveland.. was acro milli and before things went south it was about 7" tall and 12" around
ibew
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Originally Posted by Scoobs
I can tell you for 100% for sure fact it can be done.. with enough light.. i have 400 watts on a 46g tank and so far I have had nothing thats done bad lighting wise.. I once had my tank setup with almost 100% acropora and my wife says I stopped paying as much attention to the tank but I honestly dont know what went wrong the whole tank crashed overnight.
I got a 1" frag from a place in cleveland.. was acro milli and before things went south it was about 7" tall and 12" around
are you currently running PCs for sps now if so how long have you been and do you have any pics also what type of PC also did you use 10,000 some more info please
I can tell you for 100% for sure fact it can be done.. with enough light.. i have 400 watts on a 46g tank and so far I have had nothing thats done bad lighting wise.. I once had my tank setup with almost 100% acropora and my wife says I stopped paying as much attention to the tank but I honestly dont know what went wrong the whole tank crashed overnight.
I got a 1" frag from a place in cleveland.. was acro milli and before things went south it was about 7" tall and 12" around
are you currently running PCs for sps now if so how long have you been and do you have any pics also what type of PC also did you use 10,000 some more info please
1journeyman
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Originally Posted by Ibew
the reason why I posted this tread because this hobby isn't a proven science not even close in my opinion yet and may never be but what I do know is I like to see hard facts and do test for my self to see if they work or not and the pros and cons also I wanted to know if there were any people in here that had been running PCs for clams and sps and just get some info on whyand how it worked for them so try to keep your opinions for your own tread thankyou
That's true only to a certain extent. There is still plenty to be learned in this hobby, but much is already known.
As long as you post here you will get peoples' opinions.
Imagine what would happen if I knew NOTHING about aquariums and saltwater fish and I posted "Has anyone kept a whale shark in a 2 gallon nano? Please, don't post opinions, just facts please". Now, if the thread remained silent I would assume "Wow, no one has done this before, I'm gonna be the first!" In actuality the thread would be silent because no one has ever tried it but we all no it's a bad idea.
Now, that's an absurdity of course, but I hope it gently points out the fault in your original post. Keeping clams under mediocre lighting isn't done because we know they need more light.
If you are going to "experiment" in the name of science and furthering the hobby then do it right. Set up several test tanks and control tanks, measure light readings, alternate lights ,etc.
I hope we someday move past the days when aquarists throw a specimen into a less than optimum tank and hope for the best. The knowledge is there (why else would countless books call for such strong lights for clams?) and it is your responsibility to examine it and then make educated choices about the specimens you choose to keep.
Furthermore your post left out some important details; like what type of clam and what size?
the reason why I posted this tread because this hobby isn't a proven science not even close in my opinion yet and may never be but what I do know is I like to see hard facts and do test for my self to see if they work or not and the pros and cons also I wanted to know if there were any people in here that had been running PCs for clams and sps and just get some info on whyand how it worked for them so try to keep your opinions for your own tread thankyou
That's true only to a certain extent. There is still plenty to be learned in this hobby, but much is already known.
As long as you post here you will get peoples' opinions.
Imagine what would happen if I knew NOTHING about aquariums and saltwater fish and I posted "Has anyone kept a whale shark in a 2 gallon nano? Please, don't post opinions, just facts please". Now, if the thread remained silent I would assume "Wow, no one has done this before, I'm gonna be the first!" In actuality the thread would be silent because no one has ever tried it but we all no it's a bad idea.
Now, that's an absurdity of course, but I hope it gently points out the fault in your original post. Keeping clams under mediocre lighting isn't done because we know they need more light.
If you are going to "experiment" in the name of science and furthering the hobby then do it right. Set up several test tanks and control tanks, measure light readings, alternate lights ,etc.
I hope we someday move past the days when aquarists throw a specimen into a less than optimum tank and hope for the best. The knowledge is there (why else would countless books call for such strong lights for clams?) and it is your responsibility to examine it and then make educated choices about the specimens you choose to keep.
Furthermore your post left out some important details; like what type of clam and what size?
candycane
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Originally Posted by RobSW
i would not reccommend putting a clam under PCs just becuase i dont believe the PAR levels are high enough to sustain a clam long term. Sure some people have done it, this is just my opinion
HTH
Rob
Listen to the above. I have had over 2500 (two thousand five hundred) clams pass through. Bottom line is that Crocea's and Maxima's NEED a certain par level (spectrum - whatever you want to call it). I have seen some people, including myself, keep croceas alive in a T-5 or PC tank for 6 months. In the end, the symbiotic zoo always wins though. Sometime you might notice a string of mucus across the top of the clam that came from another inhabitant of the tank. This is the expulsion of zoo. The only ones that I have ever had ANY luck with is Derasas and Squamosas because their lighting needs are not as intense - but you still should have a HUGE amount of WPG over the tank if they are not halides (around 8-10).
i would not reccommend putting a clam under PCs just becuase i dont believe the PAR levels are high enough to sustain a clam long term. Sure some people have done it, this is just my opinion
HTH
Rob
Listen to the above. I have had over 2500 (two thousand five hundred) clams pass through. Bottom line is that Crocea's and Maxima's NEED a certain par level (spectrum - whatever you want to call it). I have seen some people, including myself, keep croceas alive in a T-5 or PC tank for 6 months. In the end, the symbiotic zoo always wins though. Sometime you might notice a string of mucus across the top of the clam that came from another inhabitant of the tank. This is the expulsion of zoo. The only ones that I have ever had ANY luck with is Derasas and Squamosas because their lighting needs are not as intense - but you still should have a HUGE amount of WPG over the tank if they are not halides (around 8-10).