i've been dealing with garf for years. i wish everybody would start doing what they are doing!! thats what got me into propogating corals, and selling them to the stores as weel as other reefers!! we should all try to save the reefs of the world. somtimes it makes me sick to see these poor animals pulled out of their home and put into some under-educated persons tank! then they say,"oh well, if it dies i'll get another one!" thats sad!! we should all support captive raise animals, wether it be corals, fish, and yes live rock!! i'm acctualy looking into making rock to make my coral farming business even better! hopfully when taking corals from the wild becomes illegal, people will understand how important it is to only have captive creatures!! maybe we should all hope it happens sooner though!