Confused about anemone and reef

newbie68

Member
Getting mix reaction about anemone. I wantto get an anemone for my clown but heard horror stories about them. I am favoring the Red Bubble anemone for they are hardy. But heard that they may harm corals. Any advised to this confused hobbyist :help:
 

murph145

Active Member
hey there again....
i have a reef set up with corals and anemones together....
as for corals i have:
bubble
xenia
polyps and zoos of different colors
pagoda cup coral
toadstool
leather finger
colt
mushrooms
candy
and anemones
3 LTA's
2 Rose tips anemones
and my tomato clown host in the 2 rbta's
i havent had a prob.... my anemones dont move around though i think because i have enough lighting.... if they start moving around u might have problems with stinging other corals.... but i think it looks cool having anemones in with corals
 

ophiura

Active Member
First, a clown does not need an anemone, just to clarify. They may well take to several types of corals in a tank, if you keep softies or LPS, but they don't need to have something.
But there really is no straight answer on this because anemones do have the ability to up an move, which means they pose a threat to animals in the tank (corals) that don't move. And there is no way to be sure that they will never move. So it is a risk you have to be willing to take, or not. Anyone who says they will be fine, has just not had the anemone up and move through their corals yet...or had it do damage. I've seen and heard both sides of the argument, but in the end, you just have to be willing to take the risk. That's all it is. The whole hobby is a risk.
FWIW, I would not call any anemone "hardy." Definitely need pristine water conditions and above average lighting to do well, which makes them more difficult animals to keep, IMO.
 

newbie68

Member
Thank you for the good advises. One of the thing I am concerned about is lighting. I have 2 97W. PC. Is this enough to support an anemone? Instead of anemone, what about frogspawn? Whish is a better match for my tank, 47G. BTW, has anyone heard of a clown using a frogspawn like an anemone?
 

murph145

Active Member
i think u would have more luck with a bubble anemone over a frogspawn.... those are pretty light demanding probably more so than an anemone....
i think u have enough light over your tank as long as its a half actinic and half dayliht bulb... i kept my anemones under 270W in my 100 for a long time until i upgraded to my 470W system and new canopy.... i think they are happier now but they were doing ok then....
if u venture into the frogspawn u would deffinately need to up your lighting then u would also need to maintain proper levels of calcium alk and other trace elements....
if i were u i would get a bubble tip.... better odds id say
 

hopkins6

Member
At my LFS there were occellarus clowns hosting in a long tenticle plate coral, wich cant move but still the clown hosts in it. When I was looking at it I asked the guy who works there, "What is that anemone called?" cause it looked so much like an anemone. So do what you think is best for you, also if you feed the anemone alot once you get it will stay in that spot cause its getting food, but the lighting has to be good for it also. :)
 

ophiura

Active Member
I have no problems with a frogspawn in my 45g with 2 96W PC's It has grown considerably. You need to keep very good water quality (including calcium and alkalinity) for either an anemone, or the frogspawn. The frogspawn can at least be placed high up in the tank for more lighting...the anemone can not. But there is no guarantee a clown will take to it though yes, that sort of host has been reported.
We have a forum dedicated to anemones and clownfish. I would strongly advise you to post your question on lighting for the experts there.
IMO, the two 96 W are not ideal for an anemone.
 

latino277

Member
I agree with ophiura, you should have more light for an anemone. As far as them moving.... once they find a place they like... chances are that they will not unless something chnages. couple of things that can cause them to move...
1) Spliting. when that happened they will more than likely try to find new home. most of the time in the same area.... and BTA's do like to split!! I started out with 1 and in 1yrs have give 8 to my LFS for credit. :scared:
2) change in water movement.
3) change in lighting.
the good thing is that (at least in my experiance :rolleyes: ) they are very predictable and you can start to clear things out of it's why untill it finds a home. just my .02
 
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tizzo

Guest
I am thinking the frogspawn will be ok. It is a MUCH wiser choise than an anemone too... And since you asked... :)
has anyone heard of a clown using a frogspawn like an anemone?
My frog is his home.
 

murph145

Active Member
id say after u see that the piece has wrapped back around and u can see a well identified stomach center point..... for the first while they dont have a stomach yet .... id say a couple weeks..... they should be fine for a while without eating....
 

druluv

Member
Originally Posted by ophiura
First, a clown does not need an anemone, just to clarify. They may well take to several types of corals in a tank, if you keep softies or LPS, but they don't need to have something.
But there really is no straight answer on this because anemones do have the ability to up an move, which means they pose a threat to animals in the tank (corals) that don't move. And there is no way to be sure that they will never move. So it is a risk you have to be willing to take, or not. Anyone who says they will be fine, has just not had the anemone up and move through their corals yet...or had it do damage. I've seen and heard both sides of the argument, but in the end, you just have to be willing to take the risk. That's all it is. The whole hobby is a risk.
FWIW, I would not call any anemone "hardy." Definitely need pristine water conditions and above average lighting to do well, which makes them more difficult animals to keep, IMO.
I could not say it any better. I know anemones are cool but I feel they are better served in their own species tank. I need to get them out my tank before they spilt again. :thinking:
 
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