Copperband feeding help

meowzer

Moderator
OK...I have had my copperband since Wednesday....It seems active, BUT believe it or not...the yellow clown goby intimidates it...It seems to like to hang out in front of a powerhead....IDK what it is doing....swimming with the water movement I guess
 
BUT.....I have tried to watch it, and I have not seen it eat....it's hard to tell with its tiny beak though, BUT I am pretty sure I have not seen it eat
 
I have read that they are sometimes difficult about eating
 
Can anyone that has ever had one share some tips with me on what they did to entice it to eat...please
 

spanko

Active Member
From wet web media
 
 
"Copperband Feeding - A recipe for Success - 12/13/07

Good evening Bob & Crew,
<Miguel from the GWN>
My thanks to you all for having built up a wealth of species specific information on your site. Brilliant stuff. I used many of the Crew's suggestions from the FAQ's in the development of my latest plan.
I saw the beautiful Copperband in the LFS and actually managed to resist the "impulse purchase" temptation.
I left this fish at the LFS while I read for hours about Butterflies / Copperbands on your site - prepared myself with an appropriate QT tank set-up for this particular fish and gathered up my arsenal of feeding tricks that I could use - and then went back and purchased this beautiful fish, but only after I saw him picking for food.
I used an established thirty gallon tank with live rock and sand for QT in case he would prove to be tough to feed and have to stay in QT a while (I learned that on your site too). I purchased some cured rock with Aiptasia (yes people, I actually spent money on this) and placed it in the QT tank along with the Copperband. This fish was extremely shy and found a nice spot behind the LR to hide in.
It took over two weeks of trying Mysis, Krill, Squid, Mega Marine (for the worms) and the Clam trick, back and forth with Garlic Guard, Zoe and Selcon before he finally started picking at some frozen Cyclops soaked in Selcon (my last prepared food trick prior to turning to live food which I was hoping to avoid). Throughout the two weeks of failed feeding attempts, this fish seemed to survive quite nicely by eating Aiptasia and picking at the live rock in the vitamin dosed tank water. He looked fine the whole time other than nicking the fatter part of his snout by, I suspect, sticking it too far into a hole in the rock. Because of the risk of uneaten food in the tank, I tested the water and did small water changes often during this time.
<Good notes>
Once he was eating the Cyclops, I tried the Clam trick again and he went for it. Then I started mixing in Mysis with the Cyclops, soaking in Selcon and he started eating this as well. After just a few days on prepared food this fish is eating with some enthusiasm, and both of us are looking good!
One last point that I discovered quite by accident. For whatever reason, this shy fish seemed to respond to the presence of food better (noticeably, whether actually eating it or not) if the lights in the tank were ON while the lights in the room were OFF. Not being able to see outside the tank seemed to reduce the fish's stress level considerably. (Oh, and Bob, when I told you I'd even try soft music if I thought it would help, and you said that it might help ME during the QT period... I took your advice - you should post that one too!)
<Will do>
In all honesty, without the information available on this site I can't even imagine being able to pull something like this off, not to mention knowing enough to leave a Copperband in the LFS until I had a chance to read more, assess my chances of success and develop a feeding strategy.
Still, not bad for a rookie, eh? (That's Canadian for "right"?)
Hats off to the team and my fish thanks you.
Mike from Canada
<"What's it all aboot... algae....?" Couldn't help myself. Cheers and thanks for sharing, BobF>"
 
 

meowzer

Moderator
Thanks Henry.....But what is the clam trick?
 
Do you think I should put it in my 10G for now????
 

meowzer

Moderator
:(....I just put it in the 10G.....believe it or not....the yellow clown goby had it trapped in a rock

 
It is swimming kinda odd.....not straight...pointed up a little.....IDK what to do right now
 

spanko

Active Member
clam trick = buy a live cherrystone clam from the grocery store and pry it open then lay it on the bottom of the tank. Should tempt him to eat it. If it does then you can stuff the shell with some mysis or other food to try to tempt him into other food.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Well I am sad to say it is not looking too good...I moved it to the 10G, and it is pretty pissed
 
I am making 6g's of new water so I can do frequest w/c's in the 10G......
 
I will see if I can find some sort of clam tomorrow....LOL....I know I can find a frozen mussel.....but the local store by me has no fish market :(
 
I hope it lasts
 

meowzer

Moderator
This is ridiculous.....it is looking worse by the minute....I probably....once again....made the wrong choice by moving it

 
Now I guess I just sit back and watch it die
 

meowzer

Moderator
OK...I added another PH...I had a K1, and now I have a maxijet 1200..so water is moving nicely...even tho the fish is not :(
 
I turned the light out, and I guess I will just wait and see
 

spanko

Active Member
But you knew going in that these were extremely hard fish to keep. the 29 gallon was too small a tank to put it in anyway, I just thought you were going to try to use it to get rid of the Aiptasia, then move it to the 225 where it would have had a better environment to live in, but the challenge of feeding this delicate creature would have remained. Sometimes you get the bear, sometimes the bear gets you.
 

meowzer

Moderator
:( SIGH...it was in the 54G, not the 29G
 
I know that some people had difficulty feeding them.....I was hoping ....hoping....that I would not
 
I really think it would have done better if not for the MEAN yellow clown goby...who woulda thought
 
It is in the 10G.....I have kept this tank as my kenya tree breeding tank...LOL....I have kept up with water changes and such too...
 
there are some snails, and a couple of little zebra hermits in there......If it makes it thru the night, tomorrow morning I will give it selcon soaked food.....if not.....well.....
 
If she makes it I will also do another good w/c tomorrow night when I get home from work....maybe 3G's
 
S

smartorl

Guest
I think removing him from the "bully" (who'd a thought) and turning out the lights were the best route under the circumstances. They stress so easily, hopefully she settles down.
 
Mine was refusing to eat and I started dropping in some of my surplus bbs which did prompt a strong feeding respose. After it had actually eaten and settled into the tank quietly, feeding anything and everything was not a problem. Mine looked so thin and I really didn't think it would make it so I had the bbs and was really panicking, it happened to work out in my case.
 
If you can get over the hump, you should be fine!
 
Good luck!
 

meowzer

Moderator
she is now kinda laying down, and I am hoping she will make it thru the night
 
I am prepared to do frequent w/c's and I have lots of vitamins to add to the food if need be
 
 

meowzer

Moderator
NVM....she didn't even make it thru the night :(
 
I guess the stress of the new tank, the mean clown goby, and then moving it again...was just too much for it
 

meowzer

Moderator
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by spanko http:///forum/thread/379681/copperband-feeding-help#post_3301069
Bummer Lois.
 
 
YEAH :( I have to think there may have been something else wrong...maybe I just didn't get a healthy one...5 days is kinda short for one to starve
and besides the YCG being mean to it, it showed no marks....
 
I know the 54G is a good tank, cause I have not lost anything in there (yikes.....knock on wood) and it is well over 2 years old too....
 
 
Maybe I made a mistake by requesting a smaller one......
 
 
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