Crazy Coral Adventure

chaosfyre

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Hi everybody! To summarize, I got my tank Jan 1st. It has already come such a long way and its only 3 months old! This is a story about my adventure with my first coral...
I got my first semi-large zoa colony for $20 at an aquarium store in Houston a couple months ago. It was doing great...Then we got a decorator crab (knowing the risk) and he thinned it out bad. It looked bald. I moved the coral so he would not find it...it seemed to work. Then we had to catch a few fish and had to put the zoas on the sand when we rearranged the rocks in the tank. We left it on the sand for a few days. Then the filter went out and diatoms started growing across the sand.... they covered the poor coral. I moved it up high again but the diatoms would not get off. So I put all my astrea snails on it, and they cleaned it right up. The diatoms were all gone...
But then I started seeing some strange critters on the coral-- nudibranches. I figured if they were ON the coral they were probably EATING the coral. I looked it up and sure enough, I had zoa eating nudibranches. I had recently sold my wrasse, and it was voracious, eating everything that moved. After I got rid of it, these critters started popping up. I caught about 8-12 of them before I stopped seeing them. Every day I would pick up the coral, check very carefully for nudibranches, and use a turkey baster to pull them off. Luckily I caught them quickly-- they were tiny and I haven't seen any more since. I also got another wrasse.
I used some kent coral vitamins and a turkey baster to directly treat the coral with it, weekly, about 4 tsps. The coraline algae has benefited too, huge color explosion. Last week I opened the blinds so some indirect sunlight gets in the tank. I was worried about the sun causing an algae bloom but nothing so far (I use tap water, and still haven't seen any algae). The coral had been bleached from no nutrients from not opening for so long, but with a few days of true sunlight, it darkened up again.
Anyway, caring for the coral is not as hard as I feared with astrea snails and a turkey baster on my side, despite all the disasters! And I've since gotten a new sump pump. The coral looks beautiful now.. can't even tell the decorator crab was on it, and he hasn't touched it since. I guess he is happy with his looks. I'm not sure if the polyps already grew back or what. There was some small ones he'd left behind when he shaved it bald, and maybe once they had space they just grew up. I figured the coral could benefit from a little pruning anyway-- give it room to grow more. It has only been a couple weeks since the diatom disaster and the coral looks better than when I bought it!
The decorator crab looks ridiculous. He was wearing one of the polyps in the center of his forehead like a unicorn horn...I can't stay mad at him. :) Plus, with any luck, he'll spread the polyps around.
 

florida joe

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In the reply box you will see a headliner to the left of what looks like a piece of film strip is a box hit that box and you will be able to add pics to your post from there. You may want to look into frozen food for your system.
 

chaosfyre

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Thanks for the tip about frozen food. I was already feeding brine, in addition to algae pellets, seaweed strips, and marine flakes, but I know brine is not nutritious enough so today I switched to mysis/brine/spirullina/vitamin/etc frozen mix. The nutrition content is good, but the food is REALLY messy. I bet my nitrates are going to spike.
 
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siptang

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Joe - glad to see you back in action. I think she said that because too much excessive food getting every where. (In case it doesn't get eaten)
 

florida joe

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Hi you doing my old friend, I just don’t see the correlation between frozen and dried when it comes to over feeding. If you over feed you over feed
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Originally Posted by Siptang http:///t/395024/crazy-coral-adventure#post_3516711
Joe - glad to see you back in action. I think she said that because too much excessive food getting every where. (In case it doesn't get eaten)
 
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siptang

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Touché salesman touché lol.
You are absolutely right. I hope all is well with you my fellow floridian. :)
 

chaosfyre

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Yes, when I put the food in, most of it dissipates into a brown mist that no fish could possible eat. Then there are a lot of really fine particles that my fish probably couldn't eat. And then there are particles that are big enough for them to eat. Seems like at least 1/4th of it is inedible and just makes a mess in the tank. I will probably only feed this every other day or even less than that.
 

florida joe

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Originally Posted by ChaosFyre http:///t/395024/crazy-coral-adventure#post_3516749
Yes, when I put the food in, most of it dissipates into a brown mist that no fish could possible eat. Then there are a lot of really fine particles that my fish probably couldn't eat. And then there are particles that are big enough for them to eat. Seems like at least 1/4th of it is inedible and just makes a mess in the tank. I will probably only feed this every other day or even less than that.
As a side note filter feeders and some corals can benefit from the “mist”
 

chaosfyre

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Originally Posted by florida joe http:///t/395024/crazy-coral-adventure#post_3516757
As a side note filter feeders and some corals can benefit from the “mist”
Oh, thats cool. I have noticed some sponges popping up around the tank, and some other kind of wierd anenome thing (I started an ID thread about it the other day). People tell me they don't know what the anenome thing is. But the sponges might benefit, huh? I thought they were vegetarian filter-feeders.
I don't think I have any carnivorous corals either... I just got some new coral fragments. Xenia, kenya tree, dragon eye polyps, and a few other button polyps I don't know the name of.
Maybe I should pick up a feather duster to help eat the brown "mist"?
 
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siptang

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It will work if not, your skimmer should pick up alot of it. Your zoas and buttons should pick those up as well.
 

tthemadd1

Active Member
I would switch away from that frozen food. I used to use it as well but they changed their formula and now their food just dissolves. Get some clams, scallops, white fish and blend it. Then roll it out between two sheets of cling wrap like a pie dough. Throw it in the freezer and bam fish food.
 

florida joe

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Originally Posted by tthemadd1 http:///t/395024/crazy-coral-adventure#post_3516849
I would switch away from that frozen food. I used to use it as well but they changed their formula and now their food just dissolves. Get some clams, scallops, white fish and blend it. Then roll it out between two sheets of cling wrap like a pie dough. Throw it in the freezer and bam fish food.
That would be good if all the fish were carnivores, if not I still believe in a good quality omnivore frozen food
 

tthemadd1

Active Member
Right but formula one/two changed production processes or something to turn their food into a fine powder. It unused to have a stronger/heavier gel that kept it chunkier.
I would switch to a mixture of plant matter and still blend it up with meats. You know what your paying for when you make it yourself. I made enough in an hour to last months. Recipes are everywhere on this site. DIY fish food.
 

chaosfyre

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Originally Posted by tthemadd1 http:///t/395024/crazy-coral-adventure#post_3516920
Right but formula one/two changed production processes or something to turn their food into a fine powder. It unused to have a stronger/heavier gel that kept it chunkier.
I would switch to a mixture of plant matter and still blend it up with meats. You know what your paying for when you make it yourself. I made enough in an hour to last months. Recipes are everywhere on this site. DIY fish food.
Thats interesting. How long have you been feeding it?
I am by no means a nutritionist, especially not for fish. I would feel better knowing the exact type and amount of nutritional content that I'm feeding them... protein, vitamins, etc. That said, my fish mostly aren't carnivores. A mixed diet is healthiest for them, and I can safely cut back on the frozen food to minimize mess. I've only fed it twice since I got it, so time will tell if there are ill effects. I did buy the more expensive version of the food though. Hopefully that makes a positive difference....
 

tthemadd1

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Feeding the mix I use about three months. All the fish are doing fine. There is plenty of greenery for them to eat. All my fish trigger clown and mimic love scallops. I get huge fresh scallops and cut it up. Throw in a chunk and they go crazy. Get some nori sheets, a good green food and mix it up. Again there are plenty of recipes on this forum. Check it out. I just don't use Ocean Nutrition Formula One any more. If anyone wants some I be had the same package in my freezer for at least two years.
 

chaosfyre

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@tthemad1: Oh, I don't know what formula I'm using off the top of my head.
@Everyone: Bad news everyone...
The zoa eating nudibranches are back!! As I watch I can see individual polyps suddenly jerk and close for no apparent reason. I was suspicious. I blew off the coral for a few days, but didn't see anything. then I realized, the nudibranches are so small right now they look almost like dots. I caught about 3-4 today.....

Well, now that I have those new fragments, I don't want them to get killed by the nudibranches. I can keep picking them off the big zoa colony by hand, but.... Its hard to get them when they are that tiny. They will get bigger over time, but I don't know how big they have to be before they can breed more! My fragments are only in clusters of about 5 polyps max, and I have three of those. The big colony is just stuffed full of polyps, and that is where the nudibranches have been so far.
Does anyone have any advice on how to deal with these? I can take all my corals out into a QT. What would I treat them with, and how long would they stay in there for? I don't have lights on my QT so would a plain lamp with plant bulbs work like the kind you use in a sump for chaeto algae?
It figures that the first coral I ever got had this infection!
 

ak_reefer

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There are several Coral dips you could use Reef Pest Solution (RPS) All Out, Coral RX, ...etc.
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