Cucumbers, Safe???

fusd71

Member
My wife is starting to get really into the tank (that means I can spend more money) Anyway, she wants a pink knobby cucumber. I heard that if they die, they can poison my tank. Is this true? also if it is true, is there any cuke that if dies will not poison a tank? Thanks for any input.
 

viper12775

Member
all cucumber will posion a tank if they die and impretty sure they will release toxin if they get stressed so your taking a chance adding one to your tank is it worth it?
 

fusd71

Member
Thanks Viper. Definately not worth it. Atleast not yet, maybe in a couple months. Hope the wife will still be into it!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

viper12775

Member
no problem i want to get one to but im going to set up a tank just for it maybe a 20 its not worth it to me to loose my reef
 

ophiura

Active Member
Well, this is somewhat relative. The worst are sea apples, which should not be kept at all, IMO. The least are sand sifting cukes. The yellow, and pink and greens are not so bad, but you must take action to cover your powerheads. Most problems occur when they are sucked through them. These are also filter feeders, and must be getting appropriate food. Many people keep these without any problem (unless sucked through a powerhead). No sea cucumber should be kept with any sort of aggressive fish or things that might pick at it. Otherwise, they are fine.
Mnay cukes are sold as sand sifters because they are desirable. However, if the animal is on the rocks or glass, and has long frilly tentacles out in the water, it is a filter feeder. Sand sifters rarely leave the sand, and have stubby, club like tentacles that they sweep through the sand.
Interestingly, the toxin released will only kill fish. It is used by many islanders in the Pacific to assist in fishing.
 

jonthefb

Active Member
all cukes contain a toxin called holothurin. if they die or are severely injured, they begin to release this toxin, which is similar in property to soap in that it reduces the amount of water tension in the water column. the release ofthis toxin will not effect inverts inthe tank at all, but the taxing will damagea a fishes gills causing them to be unable to take oxygen from the water, and thus the perish. not all cukes that die in captivity will release the toxin holothurin, but they all do carry it and the possibility is always there. guess you just have to ask yourself one question...do you feel lucky...punk? the most common types of death that would cause the release of holothurin in an aquarium are, the cuke gettign stung by an anemone or coral, gettign harassed by a pesky fish, and ultimately injured, crawling ove an unprotected heater and gettign burnt, and gettign killed by a power head.
there are different types of cukes as ophi stated above, and if they do have feathery tentacles around one of the ends, then they are filter feeders. Sea apples are filter feeders, and would do great in an invert only tank that was supplied with enough phyto/zoo plankton, and would be marvelous. the sand siftign cukes stay in the sandbed, and take in and from one end, extract detritus, organics, and meiofaunae and then excrete the clean sand through their anal end in the form of small pellets.
good luck
jon
 
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