CYANO...or is it???

meowzer

Moderator
OK...I have battled cyano in my 54g horse tank and thought I (ALMOST) had it beat...now all of a sudden I am getting a layer of brownish stuff on the sand....not flowy like cyano, and not reddish....
PIC#1 is the brown in the 54G
PIC #2 is cyano from my 29G......difference is obvious
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SO what is the brown in the 54G??????

 

spanko

Active Member
The 54 is the horse tank isn't it. Probably not enough flow because the horses can't handle it. This might be the perfect home for one of the fighting conchs.
And of course watch feeding and left overs and water changes and filter media changes and all of the things that can export nutrient.
 

woody189

Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3066415
HAHA....
OKAY...if it is...NOW WHAT!!!!!

IF it is, which I have no idea, then it'll probably pass.
I'm sure you've read that it typically occurs in cycling tanks, and that it is a good sign. You just give it a little bit of time and it'll be gone.
IDK about an establishd tank though. Never really heard of diatoms in an older tank.
If it is diatoms, it'll probably go away on it's own, I would think. But IDK if that is in fact what it is.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3066506
The 54 is the horse tank isn't it. Probably not enough flow because the horses can't handle it. This might be the perfect home for one of the fighting conchs.
And of course watch feeding and left overs and water changes and filter media changes and all of the things that can export nutrient.
BUT do you think it's actually diatoms?? and if so...how come in this older tank???
I feed one cube mysis (rinsed) in the a.m. and one cube mysis (rinsed) p.m.
You know I added another PH too ....

My fighting conch's are all buried
LOL
 

spanko

Active Member
From saltwater aquarium guide.
"Diatoms are microscopic cells composed of overlapping half shells of silica, which spend their lives floating in the ocean or in the sediments near the bottom.
Their silica shells, called frustules, are microscopic size and makes them hard to see.
The Diatom's iIn the ocean form a major part of the “plant-plankton” called phytoplankton, which provides important food for the “animal-plankton” called zooplankton.
These algae spread rapidly with high nitrate levels and generally are the first algae to establish themselves in your saltwater aquarium. They form a brown slime on the gravel, rocks, decoration and aquarium glass.
Diatom
As your saltwater aquarium matures, they should disappear. Scrape them away to keep a clear view of your saltwater aquarium fish when they become obvious.
Like all algae, the best way to deal with this type is by targeting its prevention. To produce their frustule and live out their lifecycle, they need abundant silicates or silicic acid.
Silica sand is a common source, so it is highly recommended that you use a limestone sand or gravel instead.
Turbo Snail
Some commercial salts for mixing marine water will also increase the levels of silicates – be sure to read the labels and before you add.
Also, try to keep invertebrates such as snails. They will roam the saltwater aquarium, walls, rocks and even the hard to reach spots and feed on algae."
 

meowzer

Moderator
Thanks SPANKO...I guess I'll get more CUC....Nothing is going right this last month
ANYWAY...what can you tell me about Florida ceriths? Also Zig Zag periwinkle Snails, and Dwarf Planaxis....I was thinkig of ordering a bunch...(if I can get them shipped to me)
 

meowzer

Moderator
Zig Zag periwinkes:
Eats Diatoms, Algae and Detritus on the rocks and glass in your tank. Extremely hardy under normal water conditions. This smaller snail only grows to about 2/5-3/5 of an inch.
Dwarf Planaxis:
This diminutive snail will spend almost all of its time underneath the sand in you tank consuming detritus, algae and diatoms, making it an excellent substrate cleaner. What sets this snail apart from the Cerith snail is that it will seek shelter not only under the sand, but under the sand underneath your live rock or decorations.
I figure I'm just going to get A LOT of these 3 for all 3 tanks....
 

teresaq

Active Member
The zig zags are very tiny and come out of the water. They didnt last long.
I would do Nerite and ceriths.
T
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by TeresaQ
http:///forum/post/3066562
The zig zags are very tiny and come out of the water. They didnt last long.
I would do Nerite and ceriths.
T
LOL...I should have just e-mailed you...you know what I'm talking about...LOL
 

srfisher17

Active Member
Silicates can contribute to diatom growth and the silicates are easily removed with almost any phosphate remover. SeaChen PhosGuard is excellent.
 

meowzer

Moderator
I am wondering...since I seem to be having issues with cyano...now this....shoud I look into a phosban reactor..or whatever it's called...
OPINIONS PLEASE....LOL
 

groupergenius

Active Member
Phosban reactors really do help. I use the 2 little fishies brand and use ROWA-phos media. The ROWA is a little pricey but works better than any other stuff I have tried.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by GrouperGenius
http:///forum/post/3066876
Phosban reactors really do help. I use the 2 little fishies brand and use ROWA-phos media. The ROWA is a little pricey but works better than any other stuff I have tried.
LOL...Pricey compared to what? This whole hobby is PRICEY...

Thank you...I think I will start looking into getting one
 

srfisher17

Active Member
A reactor works great...if you have a phosphate problem. IMO, its real over-kill for silicates. Any phos/silicate remover will remove almost all silicate in a matter of hours; with just a media bag somewhere in the system flow. Regardless; you'll have to test for both, so you may as well do it first. Be sure to test your source water; but, as mentioned above, silicates oftel leech out of substrates. BTW, I really like SeaChem test kits for both phosphate & silicate. 2ndBTW: IMO, if you had a phosphate problem, you'd also have an algae problem----just diatoms suggests silicates.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Well I have been battling cyano in this tank....almost had it beat...so I thought...still have a tiny patch here and there
NO other algae at all though besides those 2
WELL I have phosguard...should I just put some in a filter bag and try that??
I looked up the reactor...not high...but then you have to buy a pump...and of course the media.....$$$$$$ It all adds up
 

spanko

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3067018
WELL I have phosguard...should I just put some in a filter bag and try that??

Want my opinion???
Agree with srfisher17, throw it in a media bag in an area whe the water will flow through it. I would not even bother with the test kits at this point though. You know you have a problem with diatoms and without other algae problems it is probably silicates.
 
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