Cyano Out of Control

jw1977

Member
My Cyanobacteria is out of control all over my sand. My Alk is really low(7.0) so my LFS gave me a ph buffer to increase my alk. Is this adding to my Cyano problem? I'm not overfeeding and I think my flow is fine. What should I do? Are there other ways to get my alk up or should I continue using the ph buffer until I get my alk under control and then worry about the cyano?
 

jw1977

Member
I have a 46 gallon tank, I have a clown, foxface, firefish, and angel beauty. I have 4 or 5 corals, cleaner shrimp, cuc. I have two Koralia 2's, aqua c remora skimmer, and emperror 400 filter.
 

florida joe

Well-Known Member
Remember Cyano assimilate nitrates. If you decided to use a chemical treatment, the dieing Cyano will reintroduce the nitrates back into your tank so be prepared to do a major water change
 

spanko

Active Member
Standard answer follows::::
Red Slime (Cyano Bacteria)
Cyano grows on top of nutrient rich areas of low flow. There are a number of things that need to be correct or possibly corrected to combat this without the use of chemical additives. The biggest thing is to get rid of the extra nutrients.
1.Evaluate your feeding. If you are feeding more than can be eaten in about 1-2 minutes it is too much and the remainder of it is falling to the rock and sand and becoming nutrient.
2.Evaluate your flow. If you have areas in the tank where there is little to no flow this can be corrected by adding power heads or repositioning the ones you already have. You don’t need to create sand storms just have water moving over the area to keep detritus suspended in the water column for removal by your filter – skimmer.
3.Evaluate your water changes. The solution to pollution is dilution! You want to continually remove unneeded nutrients as well as replace those things that are used by the system. 10% weekly is a good change schedule. Some do 20% every other week and some vary the schedule from there, but a good start is 10% per week.
4.Evaluate your lighting schedule. About 10 hours of daylight is all that is needed.
5.If you have a Cyano outbreak do the above 4 items and:
a.At water change time siphon off the Cyano first. It will come up easily almost like a blanker.
b.After siphoning stir the affected areas a little to suspend any detritus for the water change and filtering - skimming removal.
c.Use a turkey baster now and at every water change in the future to again suspend the detritus for removal by the water change and your filtering – skimming.
Keeping nutrient levels low to non-existent will help to avoid Cyano outbreaks and any algae outbreaks as well as keep your tank and you happy happy.
Hope that helps.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by spanko
http:///forum/post/3011204
Standard answer follows::::
Red Slime (Cyano Bacteria)
Cyano grows on top of nutrient rich areas of low flow. There are a number of things that need to be correct or possibly corrected to combat this without the use of chemical additives. The biggest thing is to get rid of the extra nutrients.
1.Evaluate your feeding. If you are feeding more than can be eaten in about 1-2 minutes it is too much and the remainder of it is falling to the rock and sand and becoming nutrient.
2.Evaluate your flow. If you have areas in the tank where there is little to no flow this can be corrected by adding power heads or repositioning the ones you already have. You don’t need to create sand storms just have water moving over the area to keep detritus suspended in the water column for removal by your filter – skimmer.
3.Evaluate your water changes. The solution to pollution is dilution! You want to continually remove unneeded nutrients as well as replace those things that are used by the system. 10% weekly is a good change schedule. Some do 20% every other week and some vary the schedule from there, but a good start is 10% per week.
4.Evaluate your lighting schedule. About 10 hours of daylight is all that is needed.
5.If you have a Cyano outbreak do the above 4 items and:
a.At water change time siphon off the Cyano first. It will come up easily almost like a blanker.
b.After siphoning stir the affected areas a little to suspend any detritus for the water change and filtering - skimming removal.
c.Use a turkey baster now and at every water change in the future to again suspend the detritus for removal by the water change and your filtering – skimming.
Keeping nutrient levels low to non-existent will help to avoid Cyano outbreaks and any algae outbreaks as well as keep your tank and you happy happy.
Hope that helps.
And when none of that works???
 

jw1977

Member
I do all of the things that are the listed. Could it just be this ph buffer that i'm adding to increase my alk?
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by jw1977
http:///forum/post/3011869
I do all of the things that are the listed. Could it just be this ph buffer that i'm adding to increase my alk?
I don't know anything about the buffer, but I also have a cyano problem, I am also doing all the listed things, and my cyano is still coming back...I think the trick to beating it...is keep doing the recommended steps, and have....(it pains me to say) PATIENCE...it is a slow road...
 

3door

New Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3011205
And when none of that works???

I had a nasty outbreak about a month ago and used some "Maracyn" suggested by the folks at the fish store. It's usually for tail rot and other fish diseases so I only did 1/2 of the recommended treatment twice in 72 hours. Worked great within the first 24 hours and the tank is clear and outbreaks have stopped since! Good luck
 

uneverno

Active Member
Cyano, being a bacteria, not an algae, can be treated w/ antibiotics. Trouble with that is that the good bacteria we seek to cultivate are also susceptible to said antibiotics, which can lead to a tank crash.
Multiple water changes w/ RODI water, cut back lighting, etc. will all help. There is no quick cure.
Among many other threads: https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/354428/cyano-question-theory
 

meowzer

Moderator
Originally Posted by 3Door
http:///forum/post/3014317
I had a nasty outbreak about a month ago and used some "Maracyn" suggested by the folks at the fish store. It's usually for tail rot and other fish diseases so I only did 1/2 of the recommended treatment twice in 72 hours. Worked great within the first 24 hours and the tank is clear and outbreaks have stopped since! Good luck
I won't use any chemicals cause the cyano is in my seahorse tank
 

pezenfuego

Active Member
Originally Posted by uneverno http:///forum/post/3014365
Cyano, being a bacteria, not an algae, can be treated w/ antibiotics. Trouble with that is that the good bacteria we seek to cultivate are also susceptible to said antibiotics, which can lead to a tank crash.
Multiple water changes w/ RODI water, cut back lighting, etc. will all help. There is no quick cure.
Among many other threads: https://forums.saltwaterfish.com/t/354428/cyano-question-theory
I disagree slightly. There could possibly be a quick cure with antibiotics, but like you said, that is WAY too risky and even if your tank doesn't crash from it, the antibiotics may cause the strain to become worse than before...it's possible that by using this product you could be conditioning your cyano to be harder to get rid of.
 

meowzer

Moderator
UGH...I am doing another 15-20g w/c tomorrow...siphoning daily...I just can't seem to make a dent in this CYANO...it's a nightmare
 

pezenfuego

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/3014540
UGH...I am doing another 15-20g w/c tomorrow...siphoning daily...I just can't seem to make a dent in this CYANO...it's a nightmare
I know what that's like...I still can't believe mine is gone. It's terrible.
 
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