damsels can host??!
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payton 350
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yes damsels can host......clownfish are damsels
aquaknight
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Domino Damsels are the most notorious to host, but certainly more can. Typically only youngers ones host.
sepulatian
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Clowns are damsels. They can host. Most are aggressive (non clowns). They don't like the shelter of an anemone for long. They would rather defend multiple areas of the tank at once.
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by xtreeme
http:///forum/post/2669637
Damsels can take the sting, I read all can. Dont know why they can host. Its all just theory.
Post number 4 my friend. It isn't theory. Do a search on here about damsels hosting things. They do. Clowns are damsels. Other damsels will host. Juveniles are the most likely. They are territorial and won't stay within anything for long, just long enough to feel safe.
http:///forum/post/2669637
Damsels can take the sting, I read all can. Dont know why they can host. Its all just theory.
Post number 4 my friend. It isn't theory. Do a search on here about damsels hosting things. They do. Clowns are damsels. Other damsels will host. Juveniles are the most likely. They are territorial and won't stay within anything for long, just long enough to feel safe.
xtreeme
Member
Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2669651
Post number 4 my friend. It isn't theory. Do a search on here about damsels hosting things. They do. Clowns are damsels. Other damsels will host. Juveniles are the most likely. They are territorial and won't stay within anything for long, just long enough to feel safe.
I should have made it clear what I mean. Theory about how they can take sting. Its not fact. They THINK its the slime coat on skin etc.
http://www.answers.com/topic/clownfish
Clownfish and damselfish are the only species of fish which can avoid the potent stings of an anemone. There are several theories for how this avoidance is accomplished. Firstly, the slime coating of the fish may be based on sugar rather than proteins so anemones fail to recognize the fish as food and do not fire their nematocysts, or sting organelles.
Secondly, the mucous coating may mimic the anemone's own coating, a theory that is bolstered by the fact that it takes several days for a clownfish to adapt to a new species of anemone. There is no adaptation period when a clownfish is moved to another anemone of the same species.
Thirdly, their unique movements, which are unlike any other fish, may let the anemone know that they are not food. This theory is bolstered by the fact that juvenile clownfish, which have no coating, will immediately seek refuge in any compatible anemone and will not be stung. Juvenile clownfish will not survive for long without the protection of an anemone, and few find one before being eaten.
http:///forum/post/2669651
Post number 4 my friend. It isn't theory. Do a search on here about damsels hosting things. They do. Clowns are damsels. Other damsels will host. Juveniles are the most likely. They are territorial and won't stay within anything for long, just long enough to feel safe.
I should have made it clear what I mean. Theory about how they can take sting. Its not fact. They THINK its the slime coat on skin etc.
http://www.answers.com/topic/clownfish
Clownfish and damselfish are the only species of fish which can avoid the potent stings of an anemone. There are several theories for how this avoidance is accomplished. Firstly, the slime coating of the fish may be based on sugar rather than proteins so anemones fail to recognize the fish as food and do not fire their nematocysts, or sting organelles.
Secondly, the mucous coating may mimic the anemone's own coating, a theory that is bolstered by the fact that it takes several days for a clownfish to adapt to a new species of anemone. There is no adaptation period when a clownfish is moved to another anemone of the same species.
Thirdly, their unique movements, which are unlike any other fish, may let the anemone know that they are not food. This theory is bolstered by the fact that juvenile clownfish, which have no coating, will immediately seek refuge in any compatible anemone and will not be stung. Juvenile clownfish will not survive for long without the protection of an anemone, and few find one before being eaten.
sepulatian
Moderator
Right, the clowns build up their slime coat over time. They get reactions to the stings, it is called Hyper-melanization. This is why only wild caught clowns get Brooklynella. It is parasites that infects their slime coat that has been building up. The parasites are in the layers of coat. They eat away at it, causing it to peel.
xtreeme
Member
I think its the slime coatings too. One reason, the clown moves diff then other damsel. Yet they dont get hurt by the stings so it must be slime I think.
Brooklynella, uh I know. I got two clowns at LFS. First one -lelo- was captive raised. I can tell she is bright very friendly. If I am cleaning tank she is right there. The smaller one I had -nemo- he was shy. If she came close to him he twitched (submitting) and he hid if I was near. He got that, I found out to late. He died before I got to do freshwater dips. I didnt want a wild clown. Wont buy another one there that is shy. I think clowns should only be raised in tank. lelo is doing good.
Brooklynella, uh I know. I got two clowns at LFS. First one -lelo- was captive raised. I can tell she is bright very friendly. If I am cleaning tank she is right there. The smaller one I had -nemo- he was shy. If she came close to him he twitched (submitting) and he hid if I was near. He got that, I found out to late. He died before I got to do freshwater dips. I didnt want a wild clown. Wont buy another one there that is shy. I think clowns should only be raised in tank. lelo is doing good.
