yzracer931
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I put two damsels in my tank tonight and they dropped to the bottom of the tank. The water testes perfect. The temp is good, i cant really think of anything else except i got bad damsels maybe.
Damsels?
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jeanheckle
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Originally Posted by yzracer931
http:///forum/post/2805274
I put two damsels in my tank tonight and they dropped to the bottom of the tank. The water testes perfect. The temp is good, i cant really think of anything else except i got bad damsels maybe.
How did you acclimate them?
http:///forum/post/2805274
I put two damsels in my tank tonight and they dropped to the bottom of the tank. The water testes perfect. The temp is good, i cant really think of anything else except i got bad damsels maybe.
How did you acclimate them?
yzracer931
Member
I dripped them for about an hour
yzracer931
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No the tank had been running for a while and has crabs and snails in it. The ammonia within specs.
yzracer931
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No, no they were not sleeping. Maybe they didnt drip long enough but i have never seen a damsel die that fast. I will retest all of the parameters in the morning.
rotarymagic
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damsels are nearly impossible to kill.
list your water test..
next time with the damsels float the bags for 15-20minutes... net them out of the bags and just put them in... they will acclimate to the water very easily.. Sounds wrong, but it'll work. Unless you're going from 1.018-1.025 salinity there's no reason to have to drip them... that's ridiculous.
list your water test..
next time with the damsels float the bags for 15-20minutes... net them out of the bags and just put them in... they will acclimate to the water very easily.. Sounds wrong, but it'll work. Unless you're going from 1.018-1.025 salinity there's no reason to have to drip them... that's ridiculous.
yzracer931
Member
I will test the water in the morning, if it tests fine i will try it again.
mcbdz
Active Member
It could have been the difference of the lfs' water and yours. If their PH or salinity was way off 1 hr may not have been enough. Also please list your params. instead of saying it's ok. Need actual numbers to help.
Sorry about your loss. Could have been ablessing though, are you sure you want damsels cause, they can be a B*&! to catch later,
Pattie
Sorry about your loss. Could have been ablessing though, are you sure you want damsels cause, they can be a B*&! to catch later,
Pattie
yzracer931
Member
Yeah i know, now i am considering not getting them again. But if there is only to of them in the tank it shouldnt be bad. The parameters are
Nitrate-0
Nitrite-0
Ammonia 0-.25
PH 8.4
Alk 250
Nitrate-0
Nitrite-0
Ammonia 0-.25
PH 8.4
Alk 250
calaxa
Member
Params look ok. What was the SG and temp? Do you know what the shipping water params were? Drip acclimation is usually not the best way when getting fish from LFS. Water params are usually close enough that you only have to worry about SG, temp, and pH and usually it won't be too far off. Your drip might have been too slow and the fish didn't fully acclimate. Surprised with damsels though. Those things are really hard to kill.
yzracer931
Member
The temp is 72. No i do not know what the lfs parameters. I know its really hard they are like gold fish. That is why i was so surprised.
calaxa
Member
What about the SG? That's the only thing it could be at this point. If the LFS kept water at 1.017 and yours was 1.025 then that could be it (though damsel still can tolerate this). What did you drip acclimate in? Maybe some residual chemical was in that container? Only other thingI can think of is while you were dripping, not enough oxygen in water and they were already suffocating when you put them in.
yzracer931
Member
Very well could have been anything, next time i will not drip them if the parameters are close. I will just float them. If they are i will drip them longer and add a tiny pump for 02
calaxa
Member
I recommend this method for fish from LFS:
Put new fish in container and fill it with 3/4 shipping water and 1/4 tank water. Let stand 5 minutes. Dispose of half the water and fill with tank water. Let stand 5 minutes. Repeat once more. Check parameters. If everything is close (SG off by max .002 measured by refractometer, temp off by max 2 degrees, pH off by max .2), fish can be netted and put into tank, otherwise repeat till the params are close enough. Hydrometers are inprecise so make sure they match up if you are using that to check salinity. No need to put a pump for oxygen. You disturbing the water every 5 mins will deliver enough air.
Fish that are shipped need drip acclimation because shipping water is kept at lower pH (near neutral) to keep oxygen in bag. Pumping or aerating the water would raise pH too quickly and they would die of pH shock.
Put new fish in container and fill it with 3/4 shipping water and 1/4 tank water. Let stand 5 minutes. Dispose of half the water and fill with tank water. Let stand 5 minutes. Repeat once more. Check parameters. If everything is close (SG off by max .002 measured by refractometer, temp off by max 2 degrees, pH off by max .2), fish can be netted and put into tank, otherwise repeat till the params are close enough. Hydrometers are inprecise so make sure they match up if you are using that to check salinity. No need to put a pump for oxygen. You disturbing the water every 5 mins will deliver enough air.
Fish that are shipped need drip acclimation because shipping water is kept at lower pH (near neutral) to keep oxygen in bag. Pumping or aerating the water would raise pH too quickly and they would die of pH shock.
yzracer931
Member
Already did it again and this one lived.
