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the_fish
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Who will win, and who is going to be there.
ruaround
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I am not going to be at the race, but I will prolly end up at a "500 Party"...good reason to throw back a couple
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as far a winner...I would like to see someone win that never has...like Carl Edwards so he will do his signature back flip... most of all I want to see a HUGE WRECK involving Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson and the rest of thier team... I love it when those guys turn right
as far a winner...I would like to see someone win that never has...like Carl Edwards so he will do his signature back flip... most of all I want to see a HUGE WRECK involving Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson and the rest of thier team... I love it when those guys turn right
my way
Active Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
I am not going to be at the race, but I will prolly end up at a "500 Party"...good reason to throw back a couple
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as far a winner...I would like to see someone win that never has...like Carl Edwards so he will do his signature back flip... most of all I want to see a HUGE WRECK involving Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson and the rest of thier team... I love it when those guys turn right
So you're a fan of seeing someone possibly getting hurt or killed?
I am not going to be at the race, but I will prolly end up at a "500 Party"...good reason to throw back a couple
as far a winner...I would like to see someone win that never has...like Carl Edwards so he will do his signature back flip... most of all I want to see a HUGE WRECK involving Jeff Gordon, Jimmie Johnson and the rest of thier team... I love it when those guys turn right
So you're a fan of seeing someone possibly getting hurt or killed?
nigerrabit
Member
Petty Team, they're going to be good this year. Or else Penske.
my way
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No I don't rubberneck at accidents, the most i will do is see if someone needs help or try to figure out how the accident happened. I will not slow up traffic just to see an accident. Playing football is someone's job also involving risks, do you watch that in hopes of seeing someone get injured, I would think not. Crashes are a part of racing and yes some are quite spectacular and do a lot to change the outcome of a race. as it gives teams a chance to work on the cars to get them to handle better and for drivers to catch up that were not handling correctly and get back in the race. But to hope someone crashes is just plain stupid. The reason I get annoyed about this is, you never hear a true race fan make this kind of statement, it is usually the casual viewer or someone who does'nt find it an exciting sport. From your posts I think you fall into this category. I don't mean to flame you personally, just the mentallity of the statement. I myself do not watch stick and ball sports, it's just not my thing, but I would NEVER hope to see or hear of a player getting injured or killed as these are people with families who I'm sure care about them. Again this is not directed at you personally as i think you have a good head on your shoulders from what I've seen in your discussions.
ruaround
Active Member
My Way...
I would not take a statement from you as a flame... you always have a great opinion and back it up with facts...
as far as crashes go in NASCAR they are exciting to see, these chosen few that have this as thier job know it is a risk and it is pretty much inheirant that a crash will happen... I am not rooting for a crash, but yes I do like to see jeff gordon, jimmie johnson and the rest of the team (brian vickers an kyle busch) out of the race... these guys are very protected in these cars, but yes the occasional injury and fatality does happen... prior to Dale Sr. passing away there had not been a fatal accident in NASCAR for 10+ years... the cars are not only designed to go very fast, but also to take impact and fall apart to protect the driver...
I am not a true NASCAR fan but I do enjoy racing... and I did root Danica Patrick on in the Indy 500 last year...
I would not take a statement from you as a flame... you always have a great opinion and back it up with facts...
as far as crashes go in NASCAR they are exciting to see, these chosen few that have this as thier job know it is a risk and it is pretty much inheirant that a crash will happen... I am not rooting for a crash, but yes I do like to see jeff gordon, jimmie johnson and the rest of the team (brian vickers an kyle busch) out of the race... these guys are very protected in these cars, but yes the occasional injury and fatality does happen... prior to Dale Sr. passing away there had not been a fatal accident in NASCAR for 10+ years... the cars are not only designed to go very fast, but also to take impact and fall apart to protect the driver...
I am not a true NASCAR fan but I do enjoy racing... and I did root Danica Patrick on in the Indy 500 last year...
my way
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Ru, this is my idea of racing. I'm not much of a NASCAR fan myself.
http://www.dirtstation.com/clips/_williamsgrove/
Click on the second one down titled "The G-Man at Williams Grove 1999"
he was and coming driver who was tragically killed in a racing accident. One reason I get mad about people who think crashes are cool. You have to watch it to the end to appreciate it. The grove is about 2 1/2 hours east of me and I try to get out there a few times a year.
http://www.dirtstation.com/clips/_williamsgrove/
Click on the second one down titled "The G-Man at Williams Grove 1999"
he was and coming driver who was tragically killed in a racing accident. One reason I get mad about people who think crashes are cool. You have to watch it to the end to appreciate it. The grove is about 2 1/2 hours east of me and I try to get out there a few times a year.
ruaround
Active Member
to compare these RACERS to a NASCAR racer is night and day... although most if not all NASCAR drivers got thier start from these races... the typical friday night/saturday night RACER has a carer other than racing, has to scrape together a few friends to help in the pits, usually uses the barter system for thier sponsers, has a passion for the true sport and is a genuine enthusiast, uses his/her garage for the race cars shop and makes alot of sacrifices to race and entertain the local population...
that being said... that is exactly my kind of racing too!!! my brother inlaw races what used to be called an IMCA now called a Grand American (at my home town track http://www.meridianspeedway.com/divi...an_Modieds.htm... the owner of the tracks son used to race indy circut and qualified for 2 indy 500's!!!...here is another local hero http://www.racing-reference.com/driver?id=tolsmra01 ...he is a close friend of the family, graduated with my sister (they were engaged at one point) and he now lives less than a mile from me) and I would never want any of these RACERS to crash!!! we have lost a couple of local RACERS here too and I know what you mean and can understand your frustation by a negligent statement such as I made...
but, these RACERS do not have highly trained professionals and engineers testing and putting to gether thier cars!!! a NASCAR car will not hit the track in a race until it has been through a battery of tests...unlike the weekend driver who often use the local school parking lot just to see if the car will fire... a NASCAR car is designed to take a crash and it is a draw of the sport...
thanks for the link I did enjoy the video, and I am sorry for your loss and the loss to your racing community...
that being said... that is exactly my kind of racing too!!! my brother inlaw races what used to be called an IMCA now called a Grand American (at my home town track http://www.meridianspeedway.com/divi...an_Modieds.htm... the owner of the tracks son used to race indy circut and qualified for 2 indy 500's!!!...here is another local hero http://www.racing-reference.com/driver?id=tolsmra01 ...he is a close friend of the family, graduated with my sister (they were engaged at one point) and he now lives less than a mile from me) and I would never want any of these RACERS to crash!!! we have lost a couple of local RACERS here too and I know what you mean and can understand your frustation by a negligent statement such as I made...
but, these RACERS do not have highly trained professionals and engineers testing and putting to gether thier cars!!! a NASCAR car will not hit the track in a race until it has been through a battery of tests...unlike the weekend driver who often use the local school parking lot just to see if the car will fire... a NASCAR car is designed to take a crash and it is a draw of the sport...
thanks for the link I did enjoy the video, and I am sorry for your loss and the loss to your racing community...
my way
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Sorry to disagrre as most of the 410 sprint drivers are full time racers. You are right about the devolpment of the NASCAR cars. I think the develpoement of Nascar is what has turned me off to that type of racing. It seems to be way out of hand, it also seems that they lost their "Roots" and have abandoned there track owners, long time fans and even the drivers in the name of money. It is much more entertainment then racing anymore. here in the east we have Northeast Dirt Modifieds which are similar to the IMCA Mods but they have more power. That is REAL racing. I thought the IMCA was only a dirt track series, but your link shows an asphalt track. I've heard of Randy Tolsma From the Craftsman Truck series, is he still racing the trucks?
ruaround
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around here we do not have 410 series... they are open wheeled sprints and there are very few around here that make it a career, when those drivers show up to town you know it!!! they have superior cars and you can tell by how they handle the car...
there is only one track around here that is dirt, the rest are asphalt...that is the reason for the changing of the cars name from IMCA to Grand American...
Randy does not race any more... he retired 2 years ago and moved back to town... he now works for Mercedes Benz as a test driver... I WANT HIS JOB!!! lol
there is only one track around here that is dirt, the rest are asphalt...that is the reason for the changing of the cars name from IMCA to Grand American...
Randy does not race any more... he retired 2 years ago and moved back to town... he now works for Mercedes Benz as a test driver... I WANT HIS JOB!!! lol
cowfishrule
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i only watch nascar for the wrecks.
i could really care less who is driving or who wins.
nothing i love seeing more than an 800hp car that only makes left hand turns for 4 hours head into a wall at 150+mph..
oh yeah, long live # 4 ernie irvan
i could really care less who is driving or who wins.
nothing i love seeing more than an 800hp car that only makes left hand turns for 4 hours head into a wall at 150+mph..
oh yeah, long live # 4 ernie irvan
devilboy
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i agree team cheat exactly..... dang i wanted Dale JR to win... i thought he had it for awhile, then he went high and couldnt keep up with the lower groove and he dropped back to 20th and thats what hurt his chances along with me noticing when jr did go high no one followed to give him some help... what is this no one likes jr anymore?
ohioguy06
Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
jeez... earnie irvin doesnt race any mor...LOL
Its to bad that he doesnt race anymore he was headed for makeing himself a legend.........Seeing that im a nascar fan die hard and i was at ernies final race it was a sad day.......then on top of it he almost died!
Its to bad that he doesnt race anymore he was headed for makeing himself a legend.........Seeing that im a nascar fan die hard and i was at ernies final race it was a sad day.......then on top of it he almost died!
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the_fish
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just got back from the race, and boy was it a good one, considering you guys call us team cheat but who won again? thats right the best driver won the race.