Death Penalty
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watson3
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Originally Posted by Jmick
If you are a minority and you also have the disadvantage of being poor chances are our legal system is going fail you.
Then do not kill anyone..This could be viewed two ways, and you have a Valid point..However, "you do the crime, you do the time"..Some "poor minorities" do these crimes for the better life in prison..
If you are a minority and you also have the disadvantage of being poor chances are our legal system is going fail you.
Then do not kill anyone..This could be viewed two ways, and you have a Valid point..However, "you do the crime, you do the time"..Some "poor minorities" do these crimes for the better life in prison..
jmick
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Thought this was interesting..
"One searches our chronicles in vain for the execution of any member of the affluent strata in this society."
-Justice William O. Douglas.
If you can afford good legal representation, you won't end up on death row.
Over 90 percent of defendants charged with capital crimes are indigent and cannot afford to hire an experienced criminal defense attorney to represent them. They are forced to use inexperienced, underpaid court-appointed attorneys.
In most states the pay for court appointed attorneys is so low that lawyers assigned to capital cases will lose $20-$30 an hour if they do an adequate job. In Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi defense attorneys are paid a flat fee of $1,000 -- which translates into about 5 dollars an hour for most lawyers.
In 1996 Clinton cut federal funding to 20 legal resource centers which provided counsel to poor defendants. Now, all of the centers that received this funding have shut down.
Many capital trials last less than a week -- hardly enough time to present a good defense.
"One searches our chronicles in vain for the execution of any member of the affluent strata in this society."
-Justice William O. Douglas.
If you can afford good legal representation, you won't end up on death row.
Over 90 percent of defendants charged with capital crimes are indigent and cannot afford to hire an experienced criminal defense attorney to represent them. They are forced to use inexperienced, underpaid court-appointed attorneys.
In most states the pay for court appointed attorneys is so low that lawyers assigned to capital cases will lose $20-$30 an hour if they do an adequate job. In Alabama, Louisiana and Mississippi defense attorneys are paid a flat fee of $1,000 -- which translates into about 5 dollars an hour for most lawyers.
In 1996 Clinton cut federal funding to 20 legal resource centers which provided counsel to poor defendants. Now, all of the centers that received this funding have shut down.
Many capital trials last less than a week -- hardly enough time to present a good defense.
petjunkie
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I do believe in it but preferably with some DNA evidence or a confession. The amount of people freed on death row after being proven innocent is frightening to me and I don't agree with killing someone that is seriously mentally handicapped or insane, but now everyone claims insanity so it's a hard one to prove. More castrations needed for --- offenders though
sharkboy13
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like i wouldnt mind if bin laden was killed, but if it was a case similar to the sacco and vanzetti case where it was just the fact they were anarchists then id be against it
agent707
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Originally Posted by Catawaba
A relative of mine says "An eye for an eye" and "What goes around, comes around"
I really don't like the vindictive nature of these statements when used with a negative connotation....
These statements are quite different in meaning....
"An eye for an eye" basically means: What ever you do to someone else, should be done to you.
"What goes around comes around" bacially means: What ever you do to someone else, PROBABLY will happen to you (just by nature).
"An eye for an eye" shouldn't be something we live by... Forgiveness is the correct answer.
However, the latter is pretty much out of our hands... You do bad things, and it is almost inevidable that bad things will come your way. You do Good things, and good things will likely come your way.
I can testify to this on both ends... I used to "do bad things"... and the same came to me. But "doing bad things" is behind me now. I try to do good in all I do... Likewise it follows me.
I voted "YES". Not because I relate it to "Eye for an eye". It is not. If someone "murders" someone... and are put to death. It is not the same thing. MURDER is not killing. MURDER is MURDER.
It is very commonly "misinterpreted" in the 10 commandments "Thou shalt not kill". But it is supposed to read "Thou shalt not Murder".
Wow... this post was too long.
pontius
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Originally Posted by garnet13aj
What I've heard, although I don't know for sure that it is the truth, is that it costs more to put them to death because of the cost of all the trials they must go through to make sure that they are really guilty.
the reason they say it costs more to kill someone than to jail them for life is due to the cost of all the appeals. that is not correct, however, because you get just as many appeals if you're sentenced to life as you do if you're sentenced to death. plus, you get parole hearings in most cases, which costs the taxpayers even more money.
What I've heard, although I don't know for sure that it is the truth, is that it costs more to put them to death because of the cost of all the trials they must go through to make sure that they are really guilty.
the reason they say it costs more to kill someone than to jail them for life is due to the cost of all the appeals. that is not correct, however, because you get just as many appeals if you're sentenced to life as you do if you're sentenced to death. plus, you get parole hearings in most cases, which costs the taxpayers even more money.
windmill
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Someone once said "kill 'em all, let god sort 'em out".
I completely support the idea of killing criminals who never learn from their crimes/punishment or commit violent, disturbing and heinous crimes. Any crimes dealing with harming women, children, or the elderly should be considered for the death penalty.
Some people in this world are just naturally bad people. They need to be culled before they can harm good people and make an impact on society.
I completely support the idea of killing criminals who never learn from their crimes/punishment or commit violent, disturbing and heinous crimes. Any crimes dealing with harming women, children, or the elderly should be considered for the death penalty.
Some people in this world are just naturally bad people. They need to be culled before they can harm good people and make an impact on society.
patandlace
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Life in prison. What a joke. An inmate doing life in prison gets 3 meals a day prepared for them, Cable TV in their cells, home work out systems on they're pods or tiers and a huge weight lifting room they can go to throughout the day. They have free healthcare in a system that overmedicates the inmates so they won't have to deal with the real issues the inmate has. They have basketball courts in they're yards, a gymnasium to play in the winter. A baseball field for softball games. General population inmates have contact visits for hours at a time. I could go on and on all day. Do they're victims have it that good? I wonder how many of them get free prescriptions and gym memberships. A good number of inmates who have received life in prison sentences for brutal murders and crimes such as killing a police officer have joined gangs in prison and/or recruited other inmates for they're gangs in prison. They become leaders in the gangs over time and control the drug trade within the walls of the prison and orchestrate more crime inside the prison and have the power to order more murders and other crimes on the streets. Do I support the death penalty?!? I think you know my answer.
mr. guitar
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Any person who kills another person should be put to death. It's in the Bible...so IMO we should put to death anyone who takes the life of another.