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robert0606
Guest
denise , is red slime bad ?should i wipe it off ? i used a bit off pressure to wipe it this time and it came right off ? :help:
saltn00b
Active Member
if its slimey, or feathery looking it is Cyanobacteria, or commonly known as slima algae.
you dont want this. its a sign that somethings in your tank are not right. often times, you likely will not have enough turnover, GPH, or overall flow in the tank.
what size tank, how much GPH do you have running? it should be 10x-20x the tank volume.
you might be over feeding, causing excess nutrients in the water, this can cause an outbreak.
your other levels might be out of whack, what are your parameters?
you also might have the lights on for too long.
so check your GPH, and correct it. cut back on the feeding, do a water change, while doing so, vaccum out as much of it as you can, and temporarily cut your lighting cycle down.
you dont want this. its a sign that somethings in your tank are not right. often times, you likely will not have enough turnover, GPH, or overall flow in the tank.
what size tank, how much GPH do you have running? it should be 10x-20x the tank volume.
you might be over feeding, causing excess nutrients in the water, this can cause an outbreak.
your other levels might be out of whack, what are your parameters?
you also might have the lights on for too long.
so check your GPH, and correct it. cut back on the feeding, do a water change, while doing so, vaccum out as much of it as you can, and temporarily cut your lighting cycle down.
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robert0606
Guest
i have 29 gallon , i know i over feed ... and its by a window...... i have 50/50 195 watt thats on 10-12 hours. brown zoos,rock anemone,true per,damsel,fire fish,neon dottyback, gph is 450, test at lfs said everyhing in range. HAS to be the window and or over feeding ?
nigerbang
Active Member
I had a terrible problem with a tank being next to a window once...Hair algae though...I have ton of orange on my rock...it came on the rock..Its from .... Smith, looks neet, kinda rust color and it has some real dark purple on it..Could be called Maroon I suppose
Go Dawgs
Go Dawgs
oceanists
Active Member
Originally Posted by Merredeth
I was told that live rock that is deeper in the ocean and with more filtered light (due to depth, I would assume), coupled with a little less 02 creates the orange color.
I don't know if it is true or not, but the person that told me this seems to know more about saltwater than most people I talk with on a daily basis so I have taken him at his word.
I have not seen it spread and it will more than likely either turn maroon or purple from what I have been told. So, I enjoy it while I can. It hasn't changed in a few months but I certainly like the look of it in the tank.
It is an awesome orange. Bright, almost a tangelo orange..
Denise M.
your friend hit it square on the head... thats how I produce my Orange coraline in a seperate tub... but I use high intensity Black light and keep a low oxygen level along with a 1.035 and 840 ppm seachem calcium , also very little water flow .... nothing but rock in the tub. Im going to try to grow it on sor far I have grown it on Caribsea Reef Bones succesfully, in about a week Im going to add have of it to my DT and try to get it to grow on artificial lava rock. If it works im going to start selling it on
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, Im also going to chip a bunch of it off and grind it up and let my lfs have some powdered spores to see if it will succesfully grow in his tanks. If it works Ill start putting it on
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also. I know it works with purple coraline, I have my doubts with orange though.
For some reason I cant keep green in my tank it always dies off turns white and than deep purple.
I was told that live rock that is deeper in the ocean and with more filtered light (due to depth, I would assume), coupled with a little less 02 creates the orange color.
I don't know if it is true or not, but the person that told me this seems to know more about saltwater than most people I talk with on a daily basis so I have taken him at his word.
I have not seen it spread and it will more than likely either turn maroon or purple from what I have been told. So, I enjoy it while I can. It hasn't changed in a few months but I certainly like the look of it in the tank.
It is an awesome orange. Bright, almost a tangelo orange..
Denise M.
your friend hit it square on the head... thats how I produce my Orange coraline in a seperate tub... but I use high intensity Black light and keep a low oxygen level along with a 1.035 and 840 ppm seachem calcium , also very little water flow .... nothing but rock in the tub. Im going to try to grow it on sor far I have grown it on Caribsea Reef Bones succesfully, in about a week Im going to add have of it to my DT and try to get it to grow on artificial lava rock. If it works im going to start selling it on
[hr]
, Im also going to chip a bunch of it off and grind it up and let my lfs have some powdered spores to see if it will succesfully grow in his tanks. If it works Ill start putting it on
[hr]
also. I know it works with purple coraline, I have my doubts with orange though.
For some reason I cant keep green in my tank it always dies off turns white and than deep purple.
grumpygils
Active Member
Originally Posted by robert0606
Really not sure , is maroon algae on LR a good thing ? It seems to be growing pretty rapidly.
It is probably Cyanobacteria; or slime algae.
Cyanobacteria is a half alge/half bacteria Bane to the marine aquarist at large. If you meet a person who tells you they have never experienced cyanobacteria and they have kept aquariums for more than a few months, then they are most certainly lying. It is very common and can be attributed to the following conditions:
a) Low Alkalinity; Add buffer
b) Low Flow Rate; Add powerheads, flow, and changes in flow direction
c) High Nutrient Load (Nitrates/Phosphates); Feed less, reduce fish load, install refugium, run Phosguard or DeNitrate removing resins.
d) Underfiltration; Increase protien skimming, change carbon regularly
e) Biological Inbalance; Add cleanup crew to stir and process sand, eat algae and detritus.
Often there are many factors which combine to create a Cyanobacteria bloom. Calcification (New growth in stony corals) will cease untill C.B. blooms persist. Lastly, there is a wonderful "Kryptonite" to the C.B. curse:
Chemi Clean or Red Slime Remover. Both of these chemical products inhibit bacterial cell walls from forming and therefore cease the reproduction of Cyanobacteria. Amazingly they are both completely reef safe, although some filtration must be interupted.
It should be pointed out that I rarely encourage the use of chemical products of this nature. My exception for this treatment is due to personal experience and the value of the product at gaining an edge in the controll of cyanobacteria. Chemical techniques should be used after natural techniques are employed first without success. And instuctions must be followed carefuly!
Really not sure , is maroon algae on LR a good thing ? It seems to be growing pretty rapidly.
It is probably Cyanobacteria; or slime algae.
Cyanobacteria is a half alge/half bacteria Bane to the marine aquarist at large. If you meet a person who tells you they have never experienced cyanobacteria and they have kept aquariums for more than a few months, then they are most certainly lying. It is very common and can be attributed to the following conditions:
a) Low Alkalinity; Add buffer
b) Low Flow Rate; Add powerheads, flow, and changes in flow direction
c) High Nutrient Load (Nitrates/Phosphates); Feed less, reduce fish load, install refugium, run Phosguard or DeNitrate removing resins.
d) Underfiltration; Increase protien skimming, change carbon regularly
e) Biological Inbalance; Add cleanup crew to stir and process sand, eat algae and detritus.
Often there are many factors which combine to create a Cyanobacteria bloom. Calcification (New growth in stony corals) will cease untill C.B. blooms persist. Lastly, there is a wonderful "Kryptonite" to the C.B. curse:
Chemi Clean or Red Slime Remover. Both of these chemical products inhibit bacterial cell walls from forming and therefore cease the reproduction of Cyanobacteria. Amazingly they are both completely reef safe, although some filtration must be interupted.
It should be pointed out that I rarely encourage the use of chemical products of this nature. My exception for this treatment is due to personal experience and the value of the product at gaining an edge in the controll of cyanobacteria. Chemical techniques should be used after natural techniques are employed first without success. And instuctions must be followed carefuly!
merredeth
Active Member
Originally Posted by robert0606
how do you get orange , that has to look awesome !
From what I understand you cannot really create it - and in time the stuff that comes in a rock shipment will change to purple or maroon.
Unless of course you want to have a dark tank, little O2 in it, and dead fish.
Denise M.
how do you get orange , that has to look awesome !
From what I understand you cannot really create it - and in time the stuff that comes in a rock shipment will change to purple or maroon.
Unless of course you want to have a dark tank, little O2 in it, and dead fish.
Denise M.
merredeth
Active Member
Originally Posted by Oceanists
your friend hit it square on the head... thats how I produce my Orange coraline in a seperate tub... but I use high intensity Black light and keep a low oxygen level along with a 1.035 and 840 ppm seachem calcium , also very little water flow .... nothing but rock in the tub. Im going to try to grow it on sor far I have grown it on Caribsea Reef Bones succesfully, in about a week Im going to add have of it to my DT and try to get it to grow on artificial lava rock. If it works im going to start selling it on
[hr]
, Im also going to chip a bunch of it off and grind it up and let my lfs have some powdered spores to see if it will succesfully grow in his tanks. If it works Ill start putting it on
[hr]
also. I know it works with purple coraline, I have my doubts with orange though.
For some reason I cant keep green in my tank it always dies off turns white and than deep purple.
Because most tanks will need O2 if you want fish in it, I suspect that any orange correline is going to change color. I don't think you will be be able to seed other rocks with it unless the tank parameters match the requirements that orange correline needs to grow.
Just my .02¢ opinion (who needs a raise for opinions to keep up with inflation!
Denise M.
your friend hit it square on the head... thats how I produce my Orange coraline in a seperate tub... but I use high intensity Black light and keep a low oxygen level along with a 1.035 and 840 ppm seachem calcium , also very little water flow .... nothing but rock in the tub. Im going to try to grow it on sor far I have grown it on Caribsea Reef Bones succesfully, in about a week Im going to add have of it to my DT and try to get it to grow on artificial lava rock. If it works im going to start selling it on
[hr]
, Im also going to chip a bunch of it off and grind it up and let my lfs have some powdered spores to see if it will succesfully grow in his tanks. If it works Ill start putting it on
[hr]
also. I know it works with purple coraline, I have my doubts with orange though.
For some reason I cant keep green in my tank it always dies off turns white and than deep purple.
Because most tanks will need O2 if you want fish in it, I suspect that any orange correline is going to change color. I don't think you will be be able to seed other rocks with it unless the tank parameters match the requirements that orange correline needs to grow.
Just my .02¢ opinion (who needs a raise for opinions to keep up with inflation!
Denise M.
saltn00b
Active Member
half algae / half bacteria ? how exactly does that work?
all cyanobacteria is a misnomer because all it is is a member of the Bluegreen Algae family. the most common algae on the planet. now dont get confused of the bluegreen name, also a misnomer, because bluegreen algae exists in a whole pallet of colors, the most common of which is a deep maroon as found in ailing fishtanks.
Cyanobacteria (Greek: κυανοs = blue) is a phylum (or "division") of Bacteria that obtain their energy through photosynthesis. They are often referred to as blue-green algae. The description is primarily used to reflect their appearance and ecological role rather than their evolutionary lineage. Fossil traces of cyanobacteria have been found from around 3.8 billion years ago (b.y.a.). See: Stromatolite. As soon as these blue-green bacteria evolved, they became the dominant metabolism for producing fixed carbon in the form of sugars from carbon dioxide. Cyanobacteria are now one of the largest and most important groups of bacteria on earth.
all cyanobacteria is a misnomer because all it is is a member of the Bluegreen Algae family. the most common algae on the planet. now dont get confused of the bluegreen name, also a misnomer, because bluegreen algae exists in a whole pallet of colors, the most common of which is a deep maroon as found in ailing fishtanks.
Cyanobacteria (Greek: κυανοs = blue) is a phylum (or "division") of Bacteria that obtain their energy through photosynthesis. They are often referred to as blue-green algae. The description is primarily used to reflect their appearance and ecological role rather than their evolutionary lineage. Fossil traces of cyanobacteria have been found from around 3.8 billion years ago (b.y.a.). See: Stromatolite. As soon as these blue-green bacteria evolved, they became the dominant metabolism for producing fixed carbon in the form of sugars from carbon dioxide. Cyanobacteria are now one of the largest and most important groups of bacteria on earth.