did any one notice the democrat debate?

rylan1

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Originally Posted by seasalt101
ok with the war in iraq kinda tough to stay on a budget on the note of the war i do not believe in polite war pardon the term if i was in charge iraq would have been leveled war over in 10 days max and that is not using nukes it's straight up carpet bombing till it's over ok with clinton he raised taxes reaganomics work, that was the best system ever developed you remember all the yuppies there were alot of rich people made in the 80's problem with universal health care it eliminates alot of r&d in medicine name a drug canada has come up with in the last 40 years the us has the best health care in the world because of it i have survived 2 rounds of cancer of course i am a millionaire in reverse now but i can see going back too work maybe this year if not early next year anyway and immigration i'm pretty hard core on that i said the other day i'd shoot them at the border after thinking about it that is murder so i came up with high fence that is in place already add moat and add eletrical grid that would stop the illegals and like i stated i have no problem with going about it legally...tobin
I agree with immigration fence and etc, but what about ones that are here? How much would this cost?
See this is the problem I have with health care. I like the idea of a universal system, but will this let people have a choice to their coverage, how will it be paid for, and how will it affect the economy? Its not fair that if you are poor you'll die, where as some one of better means will survive. And the fact people will go bankrupt over an illness. However R&D is very important...This is a difficult issue because I understand both views. This is probably one of the most difficult times in American history- Next president is going to have a hard job.
With the war, we did start an unjustified war- for the 1st time. these remarks were made at the GOP debate.
 

seasalt101

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this president has had it rougher than any other president besides lincoln, and the ones that are here i feel if they seved four years in our military then they should gain citizen status if they serve valiently and with the g.i bill they could educate themselves for a better life and they should learn to speak english, this might be paranoia speaking but that cartoon dora the explorer is just away to get the younger generation to accept illegals, teach american kids spanish and you notice how she always has a map and goes across borders like its no big deal sorry i read between the lines...tobin
 

petjunkie

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Wow, Dora is full of sublimnal messages! And here I was happy my nephew could learn another language because people who speak several language tend to be more intelligent and have more job opportunities. Also I'm with windmill about military service, the president is our commander in chief and I would prefer someone with experience over someone that dodged and proved he couldn't run a business, much less a country.
 

masta man

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I don't think that English should be the language of America on the standards that America is a melting pot, it just doesn't seem right. Also, the democrats know that they need votes from immigrants that don't speak English. Besides it basically is it would just add more paper work.
 

rylan1

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Originally Posted by Masta Man
I don't think that English should be the language of America on the standards that America is a melting pot, it just doesn't seem right. Also, the democrats know that they need votes from immigrants that don't speak English. Besides it basically is it would just add more paper work.
I agree, and we all know to succeed in life here you need to know english, making it the national language accomplishes nothing IMO. They teach english all over the world as a second or third language...learning japenese or spanish does benefit an individual because it increases opportunities, and if you don't use it in business, it would be good to know while on vacation
 

nigerbang

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Originally Posted by seasalt101
the moderator ask should english be the official language of the united states 1 candidate raises his hand some unknown from alaska what is wrong with this picture?...tobin and yes i'm a republican
As far as I know his name is Mike Gravel...
Got some wild ideas as far as I have heard...Seems real intent on changing things..
 

triga22

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Im a republican, never will change. I dont like the fact that my family is in the "rich section of taxes" so we pay more so that bums can pay nothing and do drugs all day. If you work hard all your life go to college shouldnt mean you pay more because you decided to do something. I dont like the fact that idiots pay less because they decided to sit around.
 

reefreak29

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Originally Posted by TriGa22
Im a republican, never will change. I dont like the fact that my family is in the "rich section of taxes" so we pay more so that bums can pay nothing and do drugs all day. If you work hard all your life go to college shouldnt mean you pay more because you decided to do something. I dont like the fact that idiots pay less because they decided to sit around.
so what are u saying u want a liberal flat tax?
 

windmill

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Boohoo. Move somewhere without welfare then.
So, single moms don't deserve help? Handicapped don't deserve help? Veterans don't deserve help?
Typical republican greed. More of everything you already have.
 

triga22

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I didnt say that, Its the teenage 14 year olds with six kids that do crack and kill people. They DONT deserve it. I barely have anything and considerd rich. never bought a new car,not a big house. I give lots to veterans. Dont go saying stuff without knowing the facts. Im not greedy, I just dont want to pay for drugs for teens and even older people that do them
 

reefreak29

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Originally Posted by TriGa22
I didnt say that, Its the teenage 14 year olds with six kids that do crack and kill people. They DONT deserve it. I barely have anything and considerd rich. never bought a new car,not a big house. I give lots to veterans. Dont go saying stuff without knowing the facts. Im not greedy, I just dont want to pay for drugs for teens and even older people that do them
u dont pay for anything your still a kid
 

nigerbang

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Originally Posted by TriGa22
I didnt say that, Its the teenage 14 year olds with six kids that do crack and kill people. They DONT deserve it. I barely have anything and considerd rich. never bought a new car,not a big house. I give lots to veterans. Dont go saying stuff without knowing the facts. Im not greedy, I just dont want to pay for drugs for teens and even older people that do them
Agreed...With welfare and all other programs that allow you to hang out all day with out hitting a lick.....There should be a time limit....You have "X" ammount of time...then you are cut off....Unless you can prove that you are trying to better yourself and your family...If you can't show...no dough..
 

triga22

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Originally Posted by NigerBang
Agreed...With welfare and all other programs that allow you to hang out all day with out hitting a lick.....There should be a time limit....You have "X" ammount of time...then you are cut off....Unless you can prove that you are trying to better yourself and your family...If you can't show...no dough..
Thank god someone agrees.
 

reefreak29

Active Member
Originally Posted by NigerBang
Agreed...With welfare and all other programs that allow you to hang out all day with out hitting a lick.....There should be a time limit....You have "X" ammount of time...then you are cut off....Unless you can prove that you are trying to better yourself and your family...If you can't show...no dough..
now that i agree with
 

seasalt101

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Originally Posted by Rylan1
I agree in someways and disagree in others...I think minorities lost faith in republicans when JFK came around and this is when they turned to Democrats. But again I haven't seen anywhere that democrats are pushing welfare. There are many people on assistance and this issue is not just an inner city issue. I do however want to know why republicans seem to ignore or not address minorities. Take Bush for example... it took him like 4 or 6 years to meet with the Congressional Black Caucus and NAACP, after repeated attempts to get him to meet with them. In my opinion republicans don't seek the black vote, unless they are churchgoers, and he used (Bush) the same --- marriage issue and his statements about morals and faith to in my opinion pull the shade over our eyes to blind voters about the real issues.
but there has never been anymore high position blacks than with bush colin powell, condaleeza rice, there bis one more i cant think of who it is right now been up all night...tobin
 
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