dipping liverock in fresh water
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salty blues
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2451124
You can dip lr in some super saturated water to achive the same effect without killing the rock.
What is super saturated water?
http:///forum/post/2451124
You can dip lr in some super saturated water to achive the same effect without killing the rock.
What is super saturated water?
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by salty blues
http:///forum/post/2451456
What is super saturated water?
warm up your water and add salt, till it stops dissolving. That will tick off all the little boogers in the lr without killing the bacteria. Actually you probably don't need to heat the water up. If I'm not mistaken, but you'd better check you really only need to get the dipping water up to, 1.04 maybe less, someone chime in if they remember. I don't remember what we had our water at to dip the lr.
http:///forum/post/2451456
What is super saturated water?
warm up your water and add salt, till it stops dissolving. That will tick off all the little boogers in the lr without killing the bacteria. Actually you probably don't need to heat the water up. If I'm not mistaken, but you'd better check you really only need to get the dipping water up to, 1.04 maybe less, someone chime in if they remember. I don't remember what we had our water at to dip the lr.
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by anthropo
http:///forum/post/2452025
so if i dip them in over saturated water it'd kill the veratid snails, i think that's what they're called, and not the rock?
It won't kill anything, but it is suppost to tick em off so they release from the rock. I've never seen it done with snails, but I've seen it done with mantis shrimp.
http:///forum/post/2452025
so if i dip them in over saturated water it'd kill the veratid snails, i think that's what they're called, and not the rock?
It won't kill anything, but it is suppost to tick em off so they release from the rock. I've never seen it done with snails, but I've seen it done with mantis shrimp.
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2451605
warm up your water and add salt, till it stops dissolving. That will tick off all the little boogers in the lr without killing the bacteria. Actually you probably don't need to heat the water up. If I'm not mistaken, but you'd better check you really only need to get the dipping water up to, 1.04 maybe less, someone chime in if they remember. I don't remember what we had our water at to dip the lr.
Realy? You dip the rock in salinity that high? I have never done this. I am curious now. Can anyone explain this for me?
http:///forum/post/2451605
warm up your water and add salt, till it stops dissolving. That will tick off all the little boogers in the lr without killing the bacteria. Actually you probably don't need to heat the water up. If I'm not mistaken, but you'd better check you really only need to get the dipping water up to, 1.04 maybe less, someone chime in if they remember. I don't remember what we had our water at to dip the lr.
Realy? You dip the rock in salinity that high? I have never done this. I am curious now. Can anyone explain this for me?
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by sepulatian
http:///forum/post/2452340
Realy? You dip the rock in salinity that high? I have never done this. I am curious now. Can anyone explain this for me?
I was going off the top of my head, I personally didn't with my lr, didn't know any better. But my friend did with his while I was over helping set up his tank. And I thought he had said somewhere around 1.035 to 1.040 in that neighborhood. When you asked I called, and of course he doesn't remember either, so I got online but the highest I can see some one recommending is 1.03 so I dunno. It may have been lower, I just remember their being enough salt where it wasn't going into solution. And I know with my salt I can get about 1.04 before my salt does that. Sooo yeah.
http:///forum/post/2452340
Realy? You dip the rock in salinity that high? I have never done this. I am curious now. Can anyone explain this for me?
I was going off the top of my head, I personally didn't with my lr, didn't know any better. But my friend did with his while I was over helping set up his tank. And I thought he had said somewhere around 1.035 to 1.040 in that neighborhood. When you asked I called, and of course he doesn't remember either, so I got online but the highest I can see some one recommending is 1.03 so I dunno. It may have been lower, I just remember their being enough salt where it wasn't going into solution. And I know with my salt I can get about 1.04 before my salt does that. Sooo yeah.
stdreb27
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I did find this, and it was interesting. Click on the text for the link to the article.
In investigating the kinds of small crustaceans and other cryptic fauna present in live rock, scientists are able to extract specimens by briefly dipping the live rock into a weak solution of sea water and formalin, causing the animals to rapidly vacate their hiding places. Water containing the animals can then be strained through a fine mesh screen from which the specimens are removed for study. These investigations of cryptic fauna are important in understanding how these small animals help fill in a piece of the puzzle when viewing the overall ecology of hard-substrate communities of the Charleston Bump.
In investigating the kinds of small crustaceans and other cryptic fauna present in live rock, scientists are able to extract specimens by briefly dipping the live rock into a weak solution of sea water and formalin, causing the animals to rapidly vacate their hiding places. Water containing the animals can then be strained through a fine mesh screen from which the specimens are removed for study. These investigations of cryptic fauna are important in understanding how these small animals help fill in a piece of the puzzle when viewing the overall ecology of hard-substrate communities of the Charleston Bump.
earlybird
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Some have suggested prior to placing LR into DT to drip extra salty water on the rocks in a milk crate raised in a tub (baby swimming pool). It is supposed to cause hithers to detach and you can hand pick the ones you want to keep. It won't work with vermetid snails as they are sessile. I have some issues with my vermetid snails also. I've recently found two in my tank and I crused them with pliers and they seem to be dead. I can't stand them. I just recently changed my filter between baffles in my sump because it was time after being in there for a week. The very next day my filter was clogging because of vermetid snail mucus. Sucks.
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2452707
I did find this, and it was interesting. Click on the text for the link to the article.
In investigating the kinds of small crustaceans and other cryptic fauna present in live rock, scientists are able to extract specimens by briefly dipping the live rock into a weak solution of sea water and formalin, causing the animals to rapidly vacate their hiding places. Water containing the animals can then be strained through a fine mesh screen from which the specimens are removed for study. These investigations of cryptic fauna are important in understanding how these small animals help fill in a piece of the puzzle when viewing the overall ecology of hard-substrate communities of the Charleston Bump.
The link isn't coming up. I can see dipping the rock in higher SG to get the hitchhikers to come out though.
http:///forum/post/2452707
I did find this, and it was interesting. Click on the text for the link to the article.
In investigating the kinds of small crustaceans and other cryptic fauna present in live rock, scientists are able to extract specimens by briefly dipping the live rock into a weak solution of sea water and formalin, causing the animals to rapidly vacate their hiding places. Water containing the animals can then be strained through a fine mesh screen from which the specimens are removed for study. These investigations of cryptic fauna are important in understanding how these small animals help fill in a piece of the puzzle when viewing the overall ecology of hard-substrate communities of the Charleston Bump.
The link isn't coming up. I can see dipping the rock in higher SG to get the hitchhikers to come out though.
stdreb27
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anthropo
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i went to war with these damn things. i first decided to kill them by dipping one piece of live rock inside of fresh water. well the @#$%$# apparently can live for some time in fresh water cause i left it in a bucket of HOT fresh water over night and wouldn't you know it....they're still alive. i just decided to suck it up and got a pair of needle nose pliers and started crushing them one by one. it took me almost a whole day and i decided to just throw the rock back in the tank and arrange them the next day.
stdreb27
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Originally Posted by anthropo
http:///forum/post/2464396
it was just the one rock
Ok, in your 180, and it isn't a ten pound piece?
http:///forum/post/2464396
it was just the one rock
Ok, in your 180, and it isn't a ten pound piece?
anthropo
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Originally Posted by stdreb27
http:///forum/post/2464554
Ok, in your 180, and it isn't a ten pound piece?
no it's more like a 3-5 pound
http:///forum/post/2464554
Ok, in your 180, and it isn't a ten pound piece?
no it's more like a 3-5 pound