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flower

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Originally Posted by deejeff442 http:///t/389684/disaster#post_3445761
flower ,obviously we disagree.i use acetone all the time in my like of work .my sealers are basically plastic acrylics.acetone is used because it evaporates much faster than other solvents.like gasoline,mineral spirits and xylene.it does not change the basic ingredients of the plastic.what it does is breaks the surface for a bond.if what you are saying is true i would have a few thousand jobs with call backs for pealing.and i dont.acetone leaves no residue which is why it is used as the main cleaner when building a tank.when silicone is used you can smell the solvent in it,when it cures meaning the solvent which is the bonding agent evaporates the smell is gone.
I'm no chemist, LOL..that's for sure, I'm only going by what I know about acetone and fake nails. Maybe the type of acetone in nailpolish remover is different, or maybe the silicone plastic is different than the glue or material of fake nails. I know acetone really melts the plastic in fake nails and if you expose the nail to it, it becomes brittle and breaks or cracks easy afterwards. However a tiny spritz of it will help the fake nail bond to the natural nail because it removes all the oils on the nail.
I know it is used to clean the glass before you apply the original bond, no doubt for the same reason....however I was also always told that new silicone won't stick to old silicone, and all the old must first be removed before you try and rebond a tank. Am I wrong on that?
 

acrylic51

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Are you sure something didn't accidentally hit the tank.......
From my observation of the pics kind of confused about the talk about silicone....Doesn't appear at all to be a silicone issue....
 

deejeff442

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it does look like something smacked it.but the only thing that moves in the house are the dogs.and all of them were in the other bedroom.
its not that big of a tank to really have so much water pressure to blow it out like that.actually looking at it seems the silicone was more or less still in place.but the weird thing was the plastic bottom strip thats part of the rim was broken off from one end to the other and on the floor.maybe there is a ghost here ....time to move
hey flower acetone is a big cancer causer .might not want to handle it too much.i wear gloves and a resperator when messing with it.
i was not rebonding the tank.the tank didnt leak i just didnt like the small amount of silicone that i saw.so i just put more.
 

acrylic51

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I just question the silicone as the culprit.....From the jagged break marks makes it seem more like an impact or stress, and the side or in the middle of the panel is what really caught my eye.....
 

deejeff442

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yea plus the stand was on carpet.i would think if it was the silicone and being a small tank it would have leaked first.
 

tangs rule

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Wow - that's just awful. at least it was fallow and there were no fish to have to mess with... That is one of my biggest fears with my 475g - either a sudden glass failure or an earthquake that results in system capacity on the floor....At least with 33gal - you clean it up - with 500+ you just move to a new house!! I checmed the USGS website - there was nothing moving under your feet last nite. When I lived in Seattle years ago - I lost a FW tank when a 6.8 quake threw it off the stand and it landed almost in the middle of the living room. It too was a 30g.
I too would bet stress failure - glass is funny stuff.
 
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