DIY Skimmer design

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billwinterholer

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Eric:
Like the design and was wondering where you got the water bottle from.
Bill
 

eric4usa

Member
I got the water bottle from my local grocery store, They charge a $6.00 deposit for the bottle, then refills are 39cents per gallon.
I figured $6.00 for the bottle was fine.
Their water is Carbon filtered, RO filtered and UV steralized, so if i'm running short on water for a water change I can go down there with one of these bottles.
These are the same 5gallon bottles that mount upside down on top of "glug glug's", or "water coolers"
The above pictures are prety decriptive but if I think of any more key steps I'll shoot you an e-mail.
Best advice is to give it a try, even if you mess up, you can allways goop the heck out of it with epoxy, and the cost is so low that even if you have to start over, you're not loosing much. ;)
 

lurch694u

Member
Hey eric,
Where did you find that epoxy from? I am in the process of turning my sump into a sumpfugium and don't feel like ripping it all apart to glue in dividers.
 

eric4usa

Member
Once the epoxy is hardened, it's inert and non-toxic, just like acrylic.
As far as applying it underwater, I wouldn't do it. (It has that strong chemical glue smell)
I believe it works underwater, but I wouldn't let it touch the water before it hardens except in an emergency.
 

lurch694u

Member
I have fish safe silcon should I just use that? I know it takes like 24 to 48 hrs to cure. How fast does that epoxy that you have cure?
 

djessem

Member
Thats an easy one to maintain the water in the bottle when pump is off. One the plumbing going in and out of the bottle,install a one way valve in each line. They have a gate that will only flap one way. Im not sure if they make pvc type but there are brass and steel ones. Im sure there are pvc types also if you checked at a pvc supplier.
 

vincent843

New Member
Hi eric,
I wonder why you have 2 output. Is it possible make it 1" output? Also, the injector(make bubbles) is traight 1/2 " hole or it is cap and drill to many small size holes? Thanks.vn
 

eric4usa

Member
2 output tubes was a goof up
I originally had one, hooked it up and realized the water doesn't drain as fast as it's pumped in cuz it's just gravity pulling the water out and not presurized from a pump.
So i added a 2nd output tube and the draining water could then keep up with the input.
I probably should have just used a single larger pipe but this was really a build as you go experiment with no plans whatsoever.
The bubble fitting is manufactured.
Not sure if you can see in the picture but it narrows the diameter of the tube (speeding up the water), the air tube joins at the narrowest point, then after that it widens back up again.
The higher speed of the water sucks in the air.
 

david s

Member
BTW eric SWEEEEEEET TANK :D I love the around the corner thing you have going on. must be awsome to watch your fish swim around the corner of your room
 

gollus

Member
thanks a lot for posting this, I was wondering how effective the skimmer is? To make it more effective you only need to increase the contact time the air has with the bubbles, not sure how to do this, and you probably already knew it, but just trying to get the brain juices flowing.
Ok I want to build one, but I need the venturi device, I have a pump sitting around doing nothing currently. Any ideas where i could get one or how to build one?
 

eric4usa

Member
Yeah that red "venturi" fitting could be elusive.
I'm pretty sure a simple "T" fitting would work as long as, on the T fitting, the input for the air tube is smaller than the straight through part.
It just might not be as efficient at making bubbles.
There's 2 keys to skimmers:
1) Maximum TIME for air bubbles to be suspended in the water collumn for protien to stick to. (height of skimmer)
2) Maximum amount of BUBBLES for protien to stick to.
If you've looked at the best skimmer out there (Euroreef), it is the best due to a custom needle wheel impeller on the pump that makes tons of tiny tiny bubbles by injecting the air BEFORE the pump, then the pump impeller ripps it appart with little spinning metal spikes.
My skimmer has a decent height, like 18" of water and it's width allows a huge swirl for the bubbles to slowly rise in.
It makes about a 2 litre bottle of waste a week on my 300gal.
The only way to increase it's productivity is to increase the amount of bubbles.
I'd reccomend to you, and I might try it myself, to take your existing pump and try to attach an air tube to the pump INPUT.
Play around with how the bubbles will be produced in a sink or something as this is the hard part. Actually building the skimmer is much easier.
 
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