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danni23
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I'm wondering if maybe I have too much LR for my 29gallon tank. Would love some feedback. If it worked properly I have attached a photo of tank
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hyattdk2000
Member
I have 150 lb's in my 75 gal so I would say NO
reefforbrains
Active Member
Nope, looks fine. I like my tanks FULL when it comes to rockwork. It is all about what YOU think is right.
I dig the lone little hermit in the pic
Welcome to the boards.
-RFB
I dig the lone little hermit in the pic
Welcome to the boards.
-RFB
reefforbrains
Active Member
Originally Posted by Danni23
http:///forum/post/3069767
I'm wondering if maybe I have too much LR for my 29gallon tank.
NO SUCH THING! NEVER SAY SUCH A THING!!
Nope, looks fine. I like my tanks FULL when it comes to rockwork. It is all about what YOU think is right.
I dig the lone little hermit in the pic
Welcome to the boards.
-RFB
http:///forum/post/3069767
I'm wondering if maybe I have too much LR for my 29gallon tank.
NO SUCH THING! NEVER SAY SUCH A THING!!
Nope, looks fine. I like my tanks FULL when it comes to rockwork. It is all about what YOU think is right.
I dig the lone little hermit in the pic
Welcome to the boards.
-RFB
deejeff442
Active Member
agreed i like alot of rock for the filtration.
350 lbs in my 225 gallon.
i would take out the fake plants and get a couple nice pieces more of lr with some sponges and fans .
350 lbs in my 225 gallon.
i would take out the fake plants and get a couple nice pieces more of lr with some sponges and fans .
flower
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by Danni23
http:///forum/post/3069767
I'm wondering if maybe I have too much LR for my 29gallon tank. Would love some feedback. If it worked properly I have attached a photo of tank
Attachment 226785
I love, love, love your cave! I would even add a little more rock and replace the fake stuff with coral. If you are not going to have coral...featherdusters make a tank look great. They come in lots of nice colors and won't get algae on them for you to clean up.
Happy reefing!
http:///forum/post/3069767
I'm wondering if maybe I have too much LR for my 29gallon tank. Would love some feedback. If it worked properly I have attached a photo of tank
Attachment 226785
I love, love, love your cave! I would even add a little more rock and replace the fake stuff with coral. If you are not going to have coral...featherdusters make a tank look great. They come in lots of nice colors and won't get algae on them for you to clean up.
Happy reefing!
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danni23
Guest
Originally Posted by hyattdk2000
http:///forum/post/3069777
I have 150 lb's in my 75 gal so I would say NO
Thanks for the feedback
http:///forum/post/3069777
I have 150 lb's in my 75 gal so I would say NO
Thanks for the feedback
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danni23
Guest
Originally Posted by EL GUAPO
http:///forum/post/3069834
You could even put more in my opinion . But like it was said . I would loose the fake plants .
Thank you to all, for the comments. I just wasn't sure on the LR only due to I'm not sure that if the more rock you put in the less fish you can get...is this true? Also I only put the fake plants in there for now cause I wanted a little color. I was told that I can't put no more than one piece or coral in tank because it's new. I was told to wait like 2months to add anything else cause coral are hard to take care of...if you have anysuggestions let me know. Thanks!
http:///forum/post/3069834
You could even put more in my opinion . But like it was said . I would loose the fake plants .
Thank you to all, for the comments. I just wasn't sure on the LR only due to I'm not sure that if the more rock you put in the less fish you can get...is this true? Also I only put the fake plants in there for now cause I wanted a little color. I was told that I can't put no more than one piece or coral in tank because it's new. I was told to wait like 2months to add anything else cause coral are hard to take care of...if you have anysuggestions let me know. Thanks!
florida joe
Well-Known Member
I have to respectfully disagree with the more is better idea especially in smaller tanks. Your bio filtration is predicated on supply and demand. In smaller tanks you are only going to colonize nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria in relation to the bio load not the amount of LR. The downside to a lot of LR is displacement of water. Dilution in smaller tanks is paramount you have very little margin for error as it is do not diminish that margin by adding more water displacement.
BTW IMO loose the fake stuff
and to answer you original question. your tank looks fine with the live rock you have
BTW IMO loose the fake stuff
and to answer you original question. your tank looks fine with the live rock you have
locoyo386
Member
Hi there,
Originally Posted by ReefForBrains
http:///forum/post/3069785
NO SUCH THING! NEVER SAY SUCH A THING!!
Not sure what your argument is for the statement above, nor do I claim to know the intent of it. I, however completely disagree. You can have too much "live rock" in a tank. Think of what "live rock" does and how it affects your tank and you will reach a similar conclusion. Granted "live rock" is good for the tank, but too much and it can be bad for your tank.
Originally Posted by ReefForBrains
http:///forum/post/3069785
NO SUCH THING! NEVER SAY SUCH A THING!!
Not sure what your argument is for the statement above, nor do I claim to know the intent of it. I, however completely disagree. You can have too much "live rock" in a tank. Think of what "live rock" does and how it affects your tank and you will reach a similar conclusion. Granted "live rock" is good for the tank, but too much and it can be bad for your tank.
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jesse!
Guest
Originally Posted by Danni23
http:///forum/post/3069767
I'm wondering if maybe I have too much LR for my 29gallon tank. Would love some feedback. If it worked properly I have attached a photo of tank
Attachment 226785
negative, I have 45 lbs. in my 29g and I want more!
http:///forum/post/3069767
I'm wondering if maybe I have too much LR for my 29gallon tank. Would love some feedback. If it worked properly I have attached a photo of tank
Attachment 226785
negative, I have 45 lbs. in my 29g and I want more!
florida joe
Well-Known Member
Originally Posted by JESSE!
http:///forum/post/3070226
negative, I have 45 lbs. in my 29g and I want more!
why, please read my post number 10 and And explain your reasoning for wanting more live rock over more water
http:///forum/post/3070226
negative, I have 45 lbs. in my 29g and I want more!
why, please read my post number 10 and And explain your reasoning for wanting more live rock over more water
mjlogan
Member
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3069994
I have to respectfully disagree with the more is better idea especially in smaller tanks. Your bio filtration is predicated on supply and demand. In smaller tanks you are only going to colonize nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria in relation to the bio load not the amount of LR. The downside to a lot of LR is displacement of water. Dilution in smaller tanks is paramount you have very little margin for error as it is do not diminish that margin by adding more water displacement.
BTW IMO loose the fake stuff
and to answer you original question. your tank looks fine with the live rock you have
Ok so just to make sure i understand what your saying...Im going got upgrade from 10 to 30 gallons. So does that mean that technically as long as i dont add anything else other than what was in my 10, i wouldn't need more live rock?
P.S. I will get more, because i do want more fish, just trying to make sure i understand what your saying
http:///forum/post/3069994
I have to respectfully disagree with the more is better idea especially in smaller tanks. Your bio filtration is predicated on supply and demand. In smaller tanks you are only going to colonize nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria in relation to the bio load not the amount of LR. The downside to a lot of LR is displacement of water. Dilution in smaller tanks is paramount you have very little margin for error as it is do not diminish that margin by adding more water displacement.
BTW IMO loose the fake stuff
and to answer you original question. your tank looks fine with the live rock you have
Ok so just to make sure i understand what your saying...Im going got upgrade from 10 to 30 gallons. So does that mean that technically as long as i dont add anything else other than what was in my 10, i wouldn't need more live rock?
P.S. I will get more, because i do want more fish, just trying to make sure i understand what your saying
deejeff442
Active Member
i agree with joe .you need plenty of room for the fish to swim.
i have 350 lbs of lr for my 225 but 150 lbs of it is in mt 120 sump.
i had more in the dt but looked too cramped for the fish.
i just like alot of lr for filtration because my fish are 5-8 inch big.
45 lbs in a 29 gallon sounds about right.
if you want more fish and dont want to cramp the tank get a big skimmer
or a sump for more rock.
if you get a sump with lr you will eventually be able to get a mandarin.
i have 350 lbs of lr for my 225 but 150 lbs of it is in mt 120 sump.
i had more in the dt but looked too cramped for the fish.
i just like alot of lr for filtration because my fish are 5-8 inch big.
45 lbs in a 29 gallon sounds about right.
if you want more fish and dont want to cramp the tank get a big skimmer
or a sump for more rock.
if you get a sump with lr you will eventually be able to get a mandarin.
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danni23
Guest
Originally Posted by florida joe
http:///forum/post/3069994
I have to respectfully disagree with the more is better idea especially in smaller tanks. Your bio filtration is predicated on supply and demand. In smaller tanks you are only going to colonize nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria in relation to the bio load not the amount of LR. The downside to a lot of LR is displacement of water. Dilution in smaller tanks is paramount you have very little margin for error as it is do not diminish that margin by adding more water displacement.
BTW IMO loose the fake stuff
and to answer you original question. your tank looks fine with the live rock you have
Well thank you all again for the reply's... I'm am thinking on maybe just 2smaller pieces of rock, of course I'm going to get rid of the plants but until I can consume more coral, I just wanted the color. Yes, I would rather have more swimming space for my fish. So how many fish do you think I could have in my 29 gallon? I'm going to go get more CUC this week, also by adding a cleaning shrimp. I only have one small piece of coral. What and when should I add more? My tank is only a week old..and the only reason I have fish is because I recieved water from an already filterd tank. So if you could help me out with the coral it would be much appreciated.
http:///forum/post/3069994
I have to respectfully disagree with the more is better idea especially in smaller tanks. Your bio filtration is predicated on supply and demand. In smaller tanks you are only going to colonize nitrifying and denitrifying bacteria in relation to the bio load not the amount of LR. The downside to a lot of LR is displacement of water. Dilution in smaller tanks is paramount you have very little margin for error as it is do not diminish that margin by adding more water displacement.
BTW IMO loose the fake stuff
and to answer you original question. your tank looks fine with the live rock you have
Well thank you all again for the reply's... I'm am thinking on maybe just 2smaller pieces of rock, of course I'm going to get rid of the plants but until I can consume more coral, I just wanted the color. Yes, I would rather have more swimming space for my fish. So how many fish do you think I could have in my 29 gallon? I'm going to go get more CUC this week, also by adding a cleaning shrimp. I only have one small piece of coral. What and when should I add more? My tank is only a week old..and the only reason I have fish is because I recieved water from an already filterd tank. So if you could help me out with the coral it would be much appreciated.
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danni23
Guest
Originally Posted by deejeff442
http:///forum/post/3070251
i agree with joe .you need plenty of room for the fish to swim.
i have 350 lbs of lr for my 225 but 150 lbs of it is in mt 120 sump.
i had more in the dt but looked too cramped for the fish.
i just like alot of lr for filtration because my fish are 5-8 inch big.
45 lbs in a 29 gallon sounds about right.
if you want more fish and dont want to cramp the tank get a big skimmer
or a sump for more rock.
if you get a sump with lr you will eventually be able to get a mandarin.
So I only have 22lbs in it right now and none in the filtration...this may sound dumb but what is a skimmer and sump? I was told that you really don't have to do anything with the Biocube only due to it having the awesome filtration system built in. I'm going to take half of my bio balls out of filter and add a piece of live rock so it will be half and half. what do you think?
http:///forum/post/3070251
i agree with joe .you need plenty of room for the fish to swim.
i have 350 lbs of lr for my 225 but 150 lbs of it is in mt 120 sump.
i had more in the dt but looked too cramped for the fish.
i just like alot of lr for filtration because my fish are 5-8 inch big.
45 lbs in a 29 gallon sounds about right.
if you want more fish and dont want to cramp the tank get a big skimmer
or a sump for more rock.
if you get a sump with lr you will eventually be able to get a mandarin.
So I only have 22lbs in it right now and none in the filtration...this may sound dumb but what is a skimmer and sump? I was told that you really don't have to do anything with the Biocube only due to it having the awesome filtration system built in. I'm going to take half of my bio balls out of filter and add a piece of live rock so it will be half and half. what do you think?
xlr8
Member
I also agree with Joe. Too much displaces water, water in which fish live. I feel that LR should be proportionate to size of tank, bioload ect. That is why I'm sticking to the 1lb to 1.5lb per gallon rule. I feel thats a good starting reference then adjust as needed. Just my opinion though. Its your tank, you are the one maintaining it, dont fix whats not broken!
florida joe
Well-Known Member
I'm going to take half of my bio balls out of filter and add a piece of live rock so it will be half and half. What do you think?
Why? Allow me to get on my soapbox once again. Live rock does not mean more nitrification. Your bio balls are a much better platform for nitrifying bacteria to grow LR may allow you to have a place were anaerobic bacteria can colonize but in smaller tanks water changes will take care of any high nitrate readings. Small tanks leave you with very little margin for error in water quality. The more things you put in your tank the less water you have, the less water you have the less margin for error
Why? Allow me to get on my soapbox once again. Live rock does not mean more nitrification. Your bio balls are a much better platform for nitrifying bacteria to grow LR may allow you to have a place were anaerobic bacteria can colonize but in smaller tanks water changes will take care of any high nitrate readings. Small tanks leave you with very little margin for error in water quality. The more things you put in your tank the less water you have, the less water you have the less margin for error