Does anyone else wish Barbara Streisand would only open her mouth to sing?

darth tang

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This section contains statements and speeches by Ms. Streisand.
If Not Now... When?
...Barbra Streisand
Posted on October 26, 2005
If there was ever a time in history to impeach a President of the United States, it would be now. In my opinion, it is two years too late. We should have done this before the election to spare the country the misjudgment, the incompetence and the malfeasance of this administration. Let us remember that UN weapons inspectors asked for more time to search Iraq for WMDs. Two months into their search, the Director General of the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohamed ElBaradei, stated that he found no evidence that Iraq had revived its nuclear weapons program since its elimination in the 1990s. And Saddam Hussein had begun to comply with the administration's demands. Why would you invade a country if there was still a chance for peace? Shouldn't war be an absolute last resort? We went to war because we were misled. And we should be angry because of the 2,000 American soldiers and the 200 armed coalition forces that have died. We should be livid because of the 15,000 American soldiers that have been horribly maimed and wounded. We should be disgusted because of the 30,000 innocent Iraqi civilians that have been killed and the 20,000 that are wounded after administration officials claimed that the US was going to liberate the Iraqi people.
When does it stop? It stops with the indictment and impeachment of this corrupt, power-hungry, greedy group of incompetent leaders. How many more have to die before this happens?
Impeachment will be difficult. People must understand the power of Congress. When one party controls both the House and the Senate, they control the agenda. They control what hearings are held, what legislation gets voted on, whether subpoenas are issued and which investigations can take place. And they control whether impeachment proceedings can be brought.
We were clearly deceived by this administration and now we find ourselves fighting a war under false pretenses. There was no connection between Iraq and 9/11, despite ---- Cheney's many assertions. There were no WMD's and the CIA had intelligence which corroborated that evidence. There was no nuclear threat contrary to Condoleezza Rice's "smoking gun becoming a mushroom cloud" scare tactic. And there was no yellow cake purchased from Niger by Iraq as former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, along with our European allies, confirmed. All of these misconceptions and falsehoods were relentlessly stated. But this administration disregarded the facts because they wanted to wage this war, as we learned in the Downing Street memo.
This President will go down as the worst president in American history. His administration ignored and neglected the threats before 9/11. His team was not prepared to act and react before, during or after Hurricane Katrina. His policies have contributed to the hastening of global warming, an ever growing national debt, a rise in poverty and an increasing disparity between the rich and the poor. We are watching the middle-class disappear under Bush's leadership. He has taken our economy from the largest surplus in U.S. history to the largest deficit in U.S. history. And he has appointed several people to important positions that are unqualified and loyal to a dangerous fault.
With the recent controversy surrounding the potential indictments and charges of perjury against senior members of the Bush administration, some have made comparisons to the perjury charge that was brought against President Clinton. Perjury under any circumstance is wrong. However, in President Clinton’s situation, the matter was concerning an issue that only adversely affected himself and his family. But the potential charges filed against Bush’s closest advisors have put everybody’s families and the national security of the United States at risk.
Thank god the media and the American public are finally waking up and asking the tougher questions now. I keep hearing Harry Truman's famous statement ringing in my brain, "I wonder how many times you have to be hit on the head before you find out who's hitting you?"
 

farmboy

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I think i'm beginning to like you, Darth.
I agree with your thread title. Do these folks realize we don't care what political persuasion they have? Even if we did, they would alienate 1/2 of their audience. :notsure: WHat's up with that?
 

darth tang

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She actually had half of her audience walk out of her concert once because she openned her mouth to speak instead of sing.
 

farmboy

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Just sing. . . .
It is the same thing with actors/actresses. You didn't get your job for your political opinions. Rush would probably have folks walk out if he came out and started singing. . . .I know I would probably turn the radio off anyway!!
 

darth tang

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To be honest with...I don't listen to him much anymore.......More of a Savage/ Hannity guy. But if they started singing...I would change the station.
 

farmboy

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Hannity tried to help Charlie Daniels do "The devil went down to Georgia." Yep, I think the radio would go off.
 

beth

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The First Amendment: Freedom of Speech. Everyone is entitled. My guess is that there were many such impeachment discussions going on when Clinton was in office and, ultimately, those discussions came to fruition.
 

farmboy

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I agree, Beth. However, I don't remember folks stopping concerts and giving red carpet interviews to the effect of impeaching Clinton. I only want to point out that practically, celebs will tick someone off in their own audience with political opinion. Unless the celeb happens to be a political commentator.

People are more willing to excuse their favorites. Big media (and hollywood) like Democrats and/or Liberal politics. At least that is the appearance of the majority. My $0.02
 

darth tang

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Originally Posted by Beth
The First Amendment: Freedom of Speech. Everyone is entitled. My guess is that there were many such impeachment discussions going on when Clinton was in office and, ultimately, those discussions came to fruition.
There is a difference...Clinton lied under oath on the stand which is a crime under our laws. Clinton was also under investigation for sexual misconduct and accussed of sexual harrasment.
If you believe the President lied about WMDS and Iraq...then so be it, but it is not a crime to lie normally. So impeachment procedings aren't warranted. He has broken no law.
If he did lie, I agree he committed a far worse autrocity, but never the less, no crime was committed.
However far to many people looked at the same evidence and reached the same conclusions. Including other countries and their own intelligence. So I do not believe it was a blatant lie. I am however dissappointed in him so far through this second term.
Clinton got off even though he lied. Our laws only dictate a person be tried for perjury and lying under oath. It matters not WHAT you lie about. So if Clinton got off for lying.....Bush should to.
 

molamola

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Wow, I thought I was the only one that frequented Barb's sight just for laughs.
I can listen to Michael Savage up to the point where he begins screaching that he is a 21st Century prophet with a PHD. ***)
 

molamola

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What I want to know is why you don't bring me flowers anymore. Everyone knows that people who need people are the luckiest people in the world.
 

lovethesea

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I'm sorry I stopped bringing you flowers
But my heart belongs to me and I can't keep comin' in and out of your life
 

molamola

Member
That's alright. I just have to ask you one question. Did you ever know that you're my hero? That's right...You're everything I would like to be. I can fly higher than an eagle
Cause you are the wind beneath my wings. Oh crumb
That's the wrong singer.
 

beth

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Originally Posted by Farmboy
I agree, Beth. However, I don't remember folks stopping concerts and giving red carpet interviews to the effect of impeaching Clinton. I only want to point out that practically, celebs will tick someone off in their own audience with political opinion. Unless the celeb happens to be a political commentator.

People are more willing to excuse their favorites. Big media (and Hollywood) like Democrats and/or Liberal politics. At least that is the appearance of the majority. My $0.02

And, on the other side of that coin, you will find many conservative [and liberal] radio stations that do nothing but promote heavy politics, including talk of impeaching and hating the other side [Michael Savage/Rush/Hannity. As an individual, Barbara can do whatever she wants to do. And her fans can decide to take their business elsewhere if they choose. Celebrities are mostly liberal, just as many other "types or groups" are conservative. Who has more political power: Barbara Streisand or the Christian conservatives? Should either be saying anything about politics? LOL I wander what Jesus would say about Christians dipping their hands into politics?? :thinking: And doing it with such a relish too. Just a thought.
 

beth

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Darth, there is plenty of lying that goes on on both sides. You can't be in politics and be a saint. So don't be fooled by the saintly rhetoric regarding Bush. Neither he nor Clinton were above lying.
 

lovethesea

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the celebs I H A T E !! ....are the celebs that threaten to leave the country if things don't go their way. :mad:
um lemme hold the door.......and don't let it hit you in the rump on the way out !!!
 

beth

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People give celebs too much credit....they are only actors or entertainers. Who cares what they think? Most haven't even made it thru high school! LOL
They made it as entertainers and that is it. They are not all-knowing, nor are they good examples for anyone to emulate. They are simply entertainers.
The fact that some managed to make millions off of Americans and then say they hate America tells you from the get-go that they don't make much sense. So who cares what they think or say?
 
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