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patandlace
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That depends alot on what kink of fish you want, what kind of filtration you have, whether it's going to be a reef or fish only and other things to. Their is no simple answer.
lion_crazz
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Originally Posted by LAXplaya
usually the general rule of thumb is 1 inch of fish per gallon to be safe. I have used this rule and pushed it a little bit but it is good. Remember everyone wants lots of fish but dont overcrowd it too much or they will die
This rule is wrong, and is ridiculously overcrowded. Come on, can you imagine 9 fully grown panther groupers in a 210? That would be ludicrous and insane. Inch per gallon rules do not work because they do not take into account waste load of fish, how much the fish eats, and how large the fish is.
50 inches of grouper is SIGNIFICANTLY different than 50 inches of gobies. You could have 50 neon gobies in a 210 and not really have to do more than monthly water changes. However, if you had just 2 panther groupers, you will be doing large weekly to bi-weekly water changes.
In all honesty, there is no way to tell how many fish you can put in a tank. It all depends on the fish you choose, amount of filtration, amount of live rock, how large your skimmer is, how much flow you have, and so many other things.
usually the general rule of thumb is 1 inch of fish per gallon to be safe. I have used this rule and pushed it a little bit but it is good. Remember everyone wants lots of fish but dont overcrowd it too much or they will die
This rule is wrong, and is ridiculously overcrowded. Come on, can you imagine 9 fully grown panther groupers in a 210? That would be ludicrous and insane. Inch per gallon rules do not work because they do not take into account waste load of fish, how much the fish eats, and how large the fish is.
50 inches of grouper is SIGNIFICANTLY different than 50 inches of gobies. You could have 50 neon gobies in a 210 and not really have to do more than monthly water changes. However, if you had just 2 panther groupers, you will be doing large weekly to bi-weekly water changes.
In all honesty, there is no way to tell how many fish you can put in a tank. It all depends on the fish you choose, amount of filtration, amount of live rock, how large your skimmer is, how much flow you have, and so many other things.
ldb007
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whoa! LoL Well I guess I'll just be careful and stuff. My lfs has been very helpful and tells me when I shouldnt get certain things so I'm sure he'll tell me what I can and cannot have. I'm sure he'll give me the correct amount of live rock. You can never have too much. I have 80 pounds in my 55 reef. I just wanted to know "about" how many fish I could get. I wanted to get like a puffer and maybe some triggers and the rest little stuff. Just wanted some opinions. I'm real excited about it. Now...I'll be getting the HUGE wet dry filter with the balls in it and have heard I'll have to clean the balls. How in the WORLD am I going to do that? I'm sur eonce my tank is cycled, I'll be asking LOTS of questions. I am so thankful for this site!!!!!
nick76
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Originally Posted by ldb007
whoa! LoL Well I guess I'll just be careful and stuff. My lfs has been very helpful and tells me when I shouldnt get certain things so I'm sure he'll tell me what I can and cannot have. I'm sure he'll give me the correct amount of live rock. You can never have too much. I have 80 pounds in my 55 reef. I just wanted to know "about" how many fish I could get. I wanted to get like a puffer and maybe some triggers and the rest little stuff. Just wanted some opinions. I'm real excited about it. Now...I'll be getting the HUGE wet dry filter with the balls in it and have heard I'll have to clean the balls. How in the WORLD am I going to do that? I'm sur eonce my tank is cycled, I'll be asking LOTS of questions. I am so thankful for this site!!!!!
I would make sure you consult on here before making any major purchasing descisions at the LFS...most of the time they tell u things that arent true and end up overstocking you tank until it crashes and then u wasted lots of $$$. So just make sure u let us know what fish your putting in before u buy them. We dont want u to have a disaster.
whoa! LoL Well I guess I'll just be careful and stuff. My lfs has been very helpful and tells me when I shouldnt get certain things so I'm sure he'll tell me what I can and cannot have. I'm sure he'll give me the correct amount of live rock. You can never have too much. I have 80 pounds in my 55 reef. I just wanted to know "about" how many fish I could get. I wanted to get like a puffer and maybe some triggers and the rest little stuff. Just wanted some opinions. I'm real excited about it. Now...I'll be getting the HUGE wet dry filter with the balls in it and have heard I'll have to clean the balls. How in the WORLD am I going to do that? I'm sur eonce my tank is cycled, I'll be asking LOTS of questions. I am so thankful for this site!!!!!
I would make sure you consult on here before making any major purchasing descisions at the LFS...most of the time they tell u things that arent true and end up overstocking you tank until it crashes and then u wasted lots of $$$. So just make sure u let us know what fish your putting in before u buy them. We dont want u to have a disaster.
lion_crazz
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Well, do not take everything your LFS tells you as solid fact. Local fish stores are in the business to make money. I am not saying that everything they tell you is a lie. They may tell you 90% factual information. However, that last 10% is stuff they tell you that is not exactly the truth.
For instance, you are your LFS guy are walking down the aisle and you say to him, "What do I need for filtration?" He is standing there and he could help you out and tell you that making a sump out of a 30 or 55 gallon fish tank would be very cheap and easy for you. However, instead, he sells you a really big and expensive wet/dry that you have to clean all of the time because that makes the store more money. He did not lie to you, a wet/dry filter is perfectly adequate, but he did not help you either.
As far as live rock, I would recommend at least 200 lbs. In my 210, I have 275 lbs.
Ask TONS of questions on here! We are only here to help!! And always remember, the only stupid question is the one that is not asked! :happyfish
For instance, you are your LFS guy are walking down the aisle and you say to him, "What do I need for filtration?" He is standing there and he could help you out and tell you that making a sump out of a 30 or 55 gallon fish tank would be very cheap and easy for you. However, instead, he sells you a really big and expensive wet/dry that you have to clean all of the time because that makes the store more money. He did not lie to you, a wet/dry filter is perfectly adequate, but he did not help you either.
As far as live rock, I would recommend at least 200 lbs. In my 210, I have 275 lbs.
Ask TONS of questions on here! We are only here to help!! And always remember, the only stupid question is the one that is not asked! :happyfish
ldb007
Member
Originally Posted by Nick76
I would make sure you consult on here before making any major purchasing descisions at the LFS...most of the time they tell u things that arent true and end up overstocking you tank until it crashes and then u wasted lots of $$$. So just make sure u let us know what fish your putting in before u buy them. We dont want u to have a disaster.
Hes pretty good though, he owns a store stricky for saltwater and a lot of my friends go there and have BEAUTIFUL tanks, no disasters. I'll definetly let you guys know what fish though so you can help me out. More advice is always BETTER advice!!! I appreciate you guys, really!!
I would make sure you consult on here before making any major purchasing descisions at the LFS...most of the time they tell u things that arent true and end up overstocking you tank until it crashes and then u wasted lots of $$$. So just make sure u let us know what fish your putting in before u buy them. We dont want u to have a disaster.
Hes pretty good though, he owns a store stricky for saltwater and a lot of my friends go there and have BEAUTIFUL tanks, no disasters. I'll definetly let you guys know what fish though so you can help me out. More advice is always BETTER advice!!! I appreciate you guys, really!!
ldb007
Member
Originally Posted by lion_crazz
Well, do not take everything your LFS tells you as solid fact. Local fish stores are in the business to make money. I am not saying that everything they tell you is a lie. They may tell you 90% factual information. However, that last 10% is stuff they tell you that is not exactly the truth.
For instance, you are your LFS guy are walking down the aisle and you say to him, "What do I need for filtration?" He is standing there and he could help you out and tell you that making a sump out of a 30 or 55 gallon fish tank would be very cheap and easy for you. However, instead, he sells you a really big and expensive wet/dry that you have to clean all of the time because that makes the store more money. He did not lie to you, a wet/dry filter is perfectly adequate, but he did not help you either.
As far as live rock, I would recommend at least 200 lbs. In my 210, I have 275 lbs.
Ask TONS of questions on here! We are only here to help!! And always remember, the only stupid question is the one that is not asked! :happyfish
Cool! Do you have any pictures of your 210 so I can take a look at it? I just need ideas, I'm still So new at this. I've only had my 55 for 4 months now and am already getting my 210. I will CERTAINLY get no less than 200 pnds of lr. What fish do you have in your 210?
Well, do not take everything your LFS tells you as solid fact. Local fish stores are in the business to make money. I am not saying that everything they tell you is a lie. They may tell you 90% factual information. However, that last 10% is stuff they tell you that is not exactly the truth.
For instance, you are your LFS guy are walking down the aisle and you say to him, "What do I need for filtration?" He is standing there and he could help you out and tell you that making a sump out of a 30 or 55 gallon fish tank would be very cheap and easy for you. However, instead, he sells you a really big and expensive wet/dry that you have to clean all of the time because that makes the store more money. He did not lie to you, a wet/dry filter is perfectly adequate, but he did not help you either.
As far as live rock, I would recommend at least 200 lbs. In my 210, I have 275 lbs.
Ask TONS of questions on here! We are only here to help!! And always remember, the only stupid question is the one that is not asked! :happyfish
Cool! Do you have any pictures of your 210 so I can take a look at it? I just need ideas, I'm still So new at this. I've only had my 55 for 4 months now and am already getting my 210. I will CERTAINLY get no less than 200 pnds of lr. What fish do you have in your 210?
lion_crazz
Active Member
I will post some pictures for you this weekend. I need to shoot some new ones.
I have an orbicularis batfish, a maculosis angel, a kole tang and vlamingi tang, a big eye squirrelfish, two fuzzy dwarf lionfish (soon to be 3, hopefully), a very large engineer goby, and a maroon clown.
That tank is my FOWLR and my 20 is my reef. The 20 is being converted into a 75 in the next few weeks though.
Both the 20 and the 210 are interconnected, and when I get the 75 going, it will be the 75 and 210 interconnected.
I have an orbicularis batfish, a maculosis angel, a kole tang and vlamingi tang, a big eye squirrelfish, two fuzzy dwarf lionfish (soon to be 3, hopefully), a very large engineer goby, and a maroon clown.
That tank is my FOWLR and my 20 is my reef. The 20 is being converted into a 75 in the next few weeks though.
Both the 20 and the 210 are interconnected, and when I get the 75 going, it will be the 75 and 210 interconnected.
ldb007
Member
Originally Posted by lion_crazz
I will post some pictures for you this weekend. I need to shoot some new ones.
I have an orbicularis batfish, a maculosis angel, a kole tang and vlamingi tang, a big eye squirrelfish, two fuzzy dwarf lionfish (soon to be 3, hopefully), a very large engineer goby, and a maroon clown.
That tank is my FOWLR and my 20 is my reef. The 20 is being converted into a 75 in the next few weeks though.
Both the 20 and the 210 are interconnected, and when I get the 75 going, it will be the 75 and 210 interconnected.
oh cool, so I'll be able to put a batfish and a lionfish in mine? Well I'm certainly excited about that!!!!
I will post some pictures for you this weekend. I need to shoot some new ones.
I have an orbicularis batfish, a maculosis angel, a kole tang and vlamingi tang, a big eye squirrelfish, two fuzzy dwarf lionfish (soon to be 3, hopefully), a very large engineer goby, and a maroon clown.
That tank is my FOWLR and my 20 is my reef. The 20 is being converted into a 75 in the next few weeks though.
Both the 20 and the 210 are interconnected, and when I get the 75 going, it will be the 75 and 210 interconnected.
oh cool, so I'll be able to put a batfish and a lionfish in mine? Well I'm certainly excited about that!!!!
lion_crazz
Active Member
No, unfortunately, you will not be able to do the batfish. My batfish will eventually outgrow my tank. I have already made plans for Adventure Aquarium in Camden to adopt the fish for their aquarium if my larger tank is not built yet. When I get a bigger house, I plan to have a several hundred gallon aquarium built into the wall.
You will be able to do some lionfish, though.
You will be able to do some lionfish, though.
lion_crazz
Active Member
Yep, you can definitely get a nice lionfish for the tank. Being that you want bigger fish, a gorgeous volitan will go very well in that tank.