Dog Attacks Shark Video

aztec reef

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First of all, Sharks are NOT a thread to humans....The Fact that sharks are agressive its because they're territorial, and being as big as they're they CAN do serious damage..Sharks nibble on humans to find out what Humans taste like, since they can't smell, they Taste...
The reason why sharks live so long and survive so long.. It's because they're the Lyons of the ocean..eating on the smaller pray.that's what happends in the Ocean.. the Big, eat the small, and the small eat the tiny and the tiny eat the phyto and so on..
You have to remember, we're the ones steping in their Terretory..it's like saying black bears are a thread to humans...Of course they're!! in the woods..Or the country right?
BTW, that lemon shark looked like a young, worned out, 3-4footer to me..
 

appaloosa1

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i could not agree with you more fishkiller! i'm proud of my fellow Athenian! I catch and release, if you think killing an animal for fun is ok, then i justwell... I don't know what to say. Its wrong. I love it when people say we need hunting for population control. I like to ask if I can go hunting humans since we are so overpopulated. There is BC for animals like deer too, but the gov't wouldn't make money off of it!
 

fishkiller

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The propensity of this turning into an evolution debate limits my addition to this thread. I'm not sure where we came from, and I don't really care right now. That being said, I think sharks will outlast us. They are to be respected and admired. Give em our brains and opposable thumbs and who knows what they're capable of... lol... Sorry... But seriously, they are predators, and so are we. But without the shelter of our boats, it's obvious who the greater, stronger species is.
 

nvmycj

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Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
First of all, Sharks are NOT a thread to humans....The Fact that sharks are agressive its because they're territorial, and being as big as they're they CAN do serious damage..Sharks nibble on humans to find out what Humans taste like, since they can't smell, they Taste...
Uh...."sharks can't smell...." I'd validate my source where you got that information from. The have a VERY keen sense of smell.

The reason why sharks live so long and survive so long.. It's because they're the Lyons of the ocean..eating on the smaller pray.that's what happends in the Ocean.. the Big, eat the small, and the small eat the tiny and the tiny eat the phyto and so on..
I'm not disputing this fact........

You have to remember, we're the ones steping in their Terretory..it's like saying black bears are a thread to humans...Of course they're!! in the woods..Or the country right?
Absolutely right. HOWEVER, there is a hunting season that controls their population, right?

BTW, that lemon shark looked like a young,tired 3-4footer to me..

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nvmycj

Member
Originally Posted by Appaloosa1
i could not agree with you more fishkiller! i'm proud of my fellow Athenian! I catch and release, if you think killing an animal for fun is ok, then i justwell... I don't know what to say. Its wrong. I love it when people say we need hunting for population control. I like to ask if I can go hunting humans since we are so overpopulated. There is BC for animals like deer too, but the gov't wouldn't make money off of it!
"...I love it when people say we need hunting for population control. I like to ask if I can go hunting humans since we are so overpopulated...."
Why not? I know of some humans I'd like to hunt............
. But seriously, I'm not asking to kill every shark, only those that are potential human killers. Imagine your child or family member falling victim to these predators. Yes, we are in there territory, but I'd like to prevent my loved ones from becoming victims as best I can.
 

nvmycj

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Originally Posted by fishkiller
The propensity of this turning into an evolution debate limits my addition to this thread. I'm not sure where we came from, and I don't really care right now. That being said, I think sharks will outlast us. They are to be respected and admired. Give em our brains and opposable thumbs and who knows what they're capable of... lol... Sorry... But seriously, they are predators, and so are we. But without the shelter of our boats, it's obvious who the greater, stronger species is.

You are correct. Evolutionary debates just turn into a frustrating stalemate.
Sharks admired, no not from me. However, repected, yes. I can also turn your last question around and ask, "Without the shelter of the water, it's obvious who the greater, stronger species is."
 

bigarn

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Originally Posted by NVMYCJ
You are correct. Evolutionary debates just turn into a frustrating stalemate.
Sharks admired, no not from me. However, repected, yes. I can also turn your last question around and ask, "Without the shelter of the water, it's obvious who the greater, stronger species is."
The thing here is "they stay in the water where they belong"... they don't infringe on our territory. You want to protect your loved ones the best you can? .... Keep them out of the water.
 

nvmycj

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Originally Posted by bigarn
The thing here is "they stay in the water where they belong"... they don't infringe on our territory. You want to protect your loved ones the best you can? .... Keep them out of the water.

Keeping them out of the water,...unacceptable. There is just too many beautiful things to see and learn from, INCLUDING
sharks. That's why I try to bring them a piece a the ocean via a saltwater tank.
That's like saying, if you don't want them to get in a car accident, don't go out anywhere.
But you are correct. They don't infringe on our territory.
 

fishkiller

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Exactly! If sharks started walking up on land and attacking people in their homes and cars, I'd say you'd have a point. If you drive your car on the street, you are putting yourself (and whoever else is in the car with you) in a situation that is much more likely to kill you and ALL your passengers than an encounter with even some of the most aggressive species of sharks. If you are that paranoid about things happening to you and your loved ones, you may want to reconsider half of your daily routine. You have a MUCH better chance being killed or injured while eating, driving, exercising, sleeping, flying, or walking down the street b y yourself. BTW: You are talking to a shark attack "victim". Bull shark, 30 ft down, right elbow and right hand got chewed up, but thank you Mercy Hospital! Hey, I was in his house. You go in a bear's cave and see what happens. I saw more truth in that fish's eyes than any human I've ever met. But then he started to eat me, so the attention went from his eyes to his mouth. The thing is, I hit him twice in the nose, and every time he turned away he came right back! -Fearless! or hungry... But that's also typical for bulls.
 

nvmycj

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Originally Posted by fishkiller
Exactly! If sharks started walking up on land and attacking people in their homes and cars, I'd say you'd have a point. If you drive your car on the street, you are putting yourself (and whoever else is in the car with you) in a situation that is much more likely to kill you and ALL your passengers than an encounter with even some of the most aggressive species of sharks. If you are that paranoid about things happening to you and your loved ones, you may want to reconsider half of your daily routine. You have a MUCH better chance being killed or injured while eating, driving, exercising, sleeping, flying, or walking down the street b y yourself. BTW: You are talking to a shark attack "victim". Bull shark, 30 ft down, right elbow and right hand got chewed up, but thank you Mercy Hospital! Hey, I was in his house. You go in a bear's cave and see what happens. I saw more truth in that fish's eyes than any human I've ever met. But then he started to eat me, so the attention went from his eyes to his mouth. The thing is, I hit him twice in the nose, and every time he turned away he came right back! -Fearless! or hungry... But that's also typical for bulls.

True....and very typical behavior for bulls...
 

stdreb27

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What is to say that the water isn't part of our territory?
But I do agree, I do ALOT of fishing. I really enjoy being outside the water ect. But I for the most part catch and release. Debarbed hooks and everything. You shouldn't kill stuff you can't eat. Or don't want too. There are other fish, like tarpon and stuff that have been totally fished out of south texas, and you can't even eat them. I try to believe the best, and hope that shark wasn't killed just not green any more and hopefully that dog is just holding him like a retriever and taking him in.
But come on sharks do pose a danger to humans. Just tasting still hurts. hehe. But you can't blame a shark for being a shark.
 

1journeyman

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Originally Posted by NVMYCJ
....man.....I knew I'd stir up a hornets nest with this comment.....
True,...a shark does serve its purpose in nature's "circle of life," HOWEVER, we as humans have fallen victim to their circle. Having lived in Florida for over five years, I've seen and taken care of these victims. For geez sake, I can't even take my kids to the shallow sand bars without the greatest of concern for their lives.....
Statistically it's more dangerous to drive to the beach then to swim in the ocean.
 

earlybird

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Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Statistically it's more dangerous to drive to the beach then to swim in the ocean.
Unless there's lightning. More likely to be struck by lightning twice before being bitten by a shark.
 

seasalt101

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i was almost struck by lightening playing in the gulf of mexico at the naples pier i think in 87, i don't know if a shark was chasing me or not...tobin
 

aztec reef

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NVMYCJ,. Actually they do smell but i though we were talking about smelling people and solids which they CANT, that is what i meant...
As far as smelling,yes they do have a keen sense of smell of MOLECULES AND LIQUIDS such as blood, they can smell BLOOD from miles away..
Sharks have paired nostrils on the bottom of their snouts. By drawing water through the nostrils into their olfactory sacs, the shark is able to detect various "smells" in the water. The olfactory bulb in sharks' brains performs the "interpretations" of the received data and is a large component in the brain. Sharks can smell molecules at times when there is only 1 part of the molecule per 25 million parts of water. As a result, sharks can smell things at distances of hundreds of meters. This ability is particularly useful in that sharks can smell blood from far off, and quickly swim after potential prey.
SO, THEY CAN'T SMELL HUMANS!! ALTHOUGH THEY COULD SMELL HUMANS, IF HUMANS WERE BLEEDING...
I say, if you're scared of SHARKS then stay off the Ocean..
SHARKS DON'T LIKE HUMAN MEAT..they rather have a big fat seal..

BTW, you'll be fine if you wear shark repealant when swimming with sharks
 

stdreb27

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Originally Posted by earlybird
Unless there's lightning. More likely to be struck by lightning twice before being bitten by a shark.
I think it depends where you swim. Once I got attacked by school of perch while watching a shark swim between my legs. There tiny mouths felt like little pinches, It was pretty funny.
Another time I had a porpus eat one of my stringers of trout while wade fishing. ( About the only thing I do keep) Apparently the porpus liked it more.
 

aztec reef

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[QUOTE=NVMYCJ
I'm not asking to kill every shark, only those that are potential human killers.
which ones are those???? please define "Potential human killers"...How do we find this killers??
So, we should start tagging/saving the passive ones ..and killing the aggressive ones right, but how can we find and Know the ones that were Borned to be "killers" and the Ones that weren't, if they haven't attacked anyone yet ???
Lets compare the facts a little here, What percentage of all SHARK ATTACKS (all over the world) have been FATAL?? VS. pitbull dog ATTACKS that have been Fatal....
I'm more likely to get attacked by my 7 year old Rottweiller any day..than to get bit by a shark..should i kill my Dog Now or wait until he bites me????
 

nvmycj

Member
Originally Posted by 1journeyman
Statistically it's more dangerous to drive to the beach then to swim in the ocean.
Not off of the east coast of Florida.....
 

nvmycj

Member
Originally Posted by Aztec Reef
NVMYCJ,. Actually they do smell but i though we were talking about smelling people and solids which they CANT, that is what i meant...
As far as smelling,yes they do have a keen sense of smell of MOLECULES AND LIQUIDS such as blood, they can smell BLOOD from miles away..
Sharks have paired nostrils on the bottom of their snouts. By drawing water through the nostrils into their olfactory sacs, the shark is able to detect various "smells" in the water. The olfactory bulb in sharks' brains performs the "interpretations" of the received data and is a large component in the brain. Sharks can smell molecules at times when there is only 1 part of the molecule per 25 million parts of water. As a result, sharks can smell things at distances of hundreds of meters. This ability is particularly useful in that sharks can smell blood from far off, and quickly swim after potential prey.
SO, THEY CAN'T SMELL HUMANS!! ALTHOUGH THEY COULD SMELL HUMANS, IF HUMANS WERE BLEEDING...
I say, if you're scared of SHARKS then stay off the Ocean..
SHARKS DON'T LIKE HUMAN MEAT..they rather have a big fat seal..

BTW, you'll be fine if you wear shark repealant when swimming with sharks

 
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