Dragon seamoth?

reef_dart21

reef_dart21

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Originally Posted by Kraylen
http:///forum/post/3195122
Fishbase? Never heard of it... must not be a good source of information since its wrong. Go check out the Monterey Bay Aquarium, they have some well over 3 inches... tell them fishbase said they're wrong.
i read at an another place they get up to 7" in a home aquarium
 
teresaq

teresaq

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reefdart I am confused. You post here in the seahorse site, asking for help, and when someone like Greg, aka saxman trys to help, you tell him to go away. Before being rude to someone, you might find out who they are. Greg is cranberrys husband and very knowledgeable in this hobby, esp these types of fish. He and cranberry have a lot of connections and resources. Sad to see someone ask for help and then when they get advise they throw it away.
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reef_dart21

reef_dart21

Member
Originally Posted by TeresaQ
http:///forum/post/3195141
reefdart I am confused. You post here in the seahorse site, asking for help, and when someone like Greg, aka saxman trys to help, you tell him to go away. Before being rude to someone, you might find out who they are. Greg is cranberrys husband and very knowledgeable in this hobby, esp these types of fish. He and cranberry have a lot of connections and resources. Sad to see someone ask for help and then when they get advise they throw it away.
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no saxman wasnt helping at all, th eonly thing he said was
unfortunately, nobody i know of (including public aquariums) has been able to keep sea moths alive for long no matter WHAT they do, or how they feed them. even very experienced Syngnathid keepers can't keep them alive.
best to leave them in the ocean.
thats not helping
 
teresaq

teresaq

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sure it was, he was telling you that no one, not even public aquariums have been able to keep them alive, thus this is a fish that should not be bought. If people quite buying them, then lfs would not stock them, thus leaving them in the ocean.
What you are wanting to hear and what you are hearing are two differant things. You want some one to tell you its ok to keep them and this is how it can be done, instead people are telling you it cant be done long term. Its like some species of seahorses. yes you can buy them but you shouldnt because the dont last very long in a home aquarium.
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reef_dart21

reef_dart21

Member
Originally Posted by TeresaQ
http:///forum/post/3195168
sure it was, he was telling you that no one, not even public aquariums have been able to keep them alive, thus this is a fish that should not be bought. If people quite buying them, then lfs would not stock them, thus leaving them in the ocean.
What you are wanting to hear and what you are hearing are two differant things. You want some one to tell you its ok to keep them and this is how it can be done, instead people are telling you it cant be done long term. Its like some species of seahorses. yes you can buy them but you shouldnt because the dont last very long in a home aquarium.
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i guess your right on that one

i have been loking for a unique fish to place in my breeder and havnt found any, if you got any ideas id like to hear em then?
unfortunetly i cant do leaffish/filefish/scorp/stingfish/lionfish/eels/and etc fish like that
 
novahobbies

novahobbies

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Everybody's ideas about unique fish are....well....unique. I could tell you that from my point of view a 40g breeder with a few Dragonface pipefish would be a unique tank. I don't see them often, and I love that type of pipe. Other people around may read that statement, yawn, and mutter "Been there, Done that."
Doesn't mean it's not unique to me.
Disregarding all the back-and-forth about whether the fish should be kept, I keep coming back to the main point of the thread: The OP already bought the Seamoth. It's being shipped. The deed, as they say, is done. What advice can we give him now in the hopes that this 'moth lives as long as possible?
If, on the off chance that the fish actually DIDN'T get shipped, I'd strongly suggest you not buy one. Greg (and the rest) are really right...this sounds like an animal that's best appreciated from afar.
Personally I don't know the first bloody thing about them, so I'l refrain from offering any half-formed tidbits of internet insta-knowledge. I'm just tagging along to see what happens!
 
kraylen

kraylen

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I dunno... The hobby does not advance much if we don't try to keep things that "can't be kept"... remember the 80's? I'm sure you don't.... A reef tank consisted of a leather and some brown crap.... SPS was impossible and so were hundreds of fish we keep today.
I saw good luck with your seamoth venture and I hope it goes well.
 
reefnutpa

reefnutpa

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I tried a seamoth twice at my store. Both times my supplier thought they were doing me a favor. They occassionally send unique things to me as an "extra" because they know I'm into more unique fish.
The first one I couldn't get to eat at all and it died in about 1 1/2 weeks. The second one would occassionally eat a piece or two of PE Mysis (which I feed to my seahorses and the freshwater stingray we have), but it still didn't make it more than a month.
I'm not much help on how to keep one alive, unfortunately. Just wanted to add that I did have the opportunity twice - and failed. I can keep seahorses, raise fry, teach mandarins to eat frozen, etc.... just couldn't get the seamoth to survive :(
Tom
 
kraylen

kraylen

Member
Originally Posted by novahobbies
http:///forum/post/3195238
Wonder how they would do with a steady supply of amphipods or munnid isopods?
Depends on if they eat them or not ;)
Another thing to take into consideration is their feeble immune system.
 
reef_dart21

reef_dart21

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Dragon pipefish aint bad but im looking for something (could even be a normal fish with odd coloring such as a blotched anthias) that would make people go WOW never seen that before. Not, "O i say that in finding nemo "(palm to face)
edit* such as the new addition of my dracula goby, unfortunetly it wont move from my rock wall and is almsot always out of site
 
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saxman

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Originally Posted by Kraylen
http:///forum/post/3195205
I dunno... The hobby does not advance much if we don't try to keep things that "can't be kept"... remember the 80's? I'm sure you don't.... A reef tank consisted of a leather and some brown crap.... SPS was impossible and so were hundreds of fish we keep today.
I saw good luck with your seamoth venture and I hope it goes well.
i'm all for pushing the envelope, but when a person who seemingly has little to no experience in keeping Syngnathids asks about keeping a sea moth, of COURSE i'm going to recommend against it, especially since these fish are already in bad shape (beyond help) once the LFS gets them.
Tom is a very knowledgeable and experienced Syng-keeper, and his experiences is the same as everyone else's i know of, so if Reef Dart is looking for validation of a bad idea rather than information, he's barking up the wrong tree.
'nuff said...
 
reef_dart21

reef_dart21

Member
Originally Posted by Reef_Dart21
http:///forum/post/3195177
i guess your right on that one

i have been loking for a unique fish to place in my breeder and havnt found any, if you got any ideas id like to hear em then?
unfortunetly i cant do leaffish/filefish/scorp/stingfish/lionfish/eels/and etc fish like that
i already said i would pass but i am still looking for a unique fish
please read next time saxman
 
reef_dart21

reef_dart21

Member
Originally Posted by Cranberry
http:///forum/post/3195932
You are so rude.
But you'll notice he isn't even quoting you, but responding to someone else.
so if Reef Dart is looking for validation of a bad idea rather than information, he's barking up the wrong tree.
thats what he said an di had already said the statement before
 
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saxman

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Originally Posted by Reef_Dart21
http:///forum/post/3195050
To be honest i lied so you would go away

just another online troll Alpha Hotel...tsk, tsk.
it's "people" like you who are the trouble with online forums when honest people are looking for help and info.
don't bother continuing your rude behavior, as you've made my ignore list. i suspect it's not the first one you've been placed on...
 
reef_dart21

reef_dart21

Member
Originally Posted by saxman
http:///forum/post/3196222
just another online troll Alpha Hotel...tsk, tsk.
it's "people" like you who are the trouble with online forums when honest people are looking for help and info.
don't bother continuing your rude behavior, as you've made my ignore list. i suspect it's not the first one you've been placed on...
not a troll
but i guess i deserve it
 
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