dumping water during water changes

newfishguy

Member
I'm going to be doing a 100% water change for the curing live rock curing in my basement. Its in a 35 gallon container filled with around 30 gallons of water. What does everybody do with their water when they do a water change? Could I just dump it in my basement sump? Should I just siphon it out 5 gallons at a time ( I have some 5 gallon jugs) and dump it in the bathroom sink?
 

jjlittle

Member
I wouldn't recommend doing 100% water change for you could get another cycle by doing so. I wouldn't dump into a sump of another tank if that is what you meant. I would put it down the sink. What is the reason you feel you need to do a 100% water change?
 

newfishguy

Member
The place where I bought it from online has curing instructions and it says to do a 100% water change twice weekly. By doing 100% water changes you get rid of the "stink" on the rock quicker. Isn't that all that really matters? I'm talking about the hole where your sump pump in your basement is which is used to prevent your basement from flooding.
Originally Posted by jjlittle
I wouldn't recommend doing 100% water change for you could get another cycle by doing so. I wouldn't dump into a sump of another tank if that is what you meant. I would put it down the sink. What is the reason you feel you need to do a 100% water change?
 

jjlittle

Member
I thought you may be talking about sump in basemaent like that. What type of curculation are u running in the cureing tank for if you were to increase it it may not stink as bad . I would do a max of 50% that way your not getting rid of alot of the bacteraia which would have to start over for you are trying to get the bacteria built up in the rocks and I would think that would slow the process down by removeing a lot of it.How long has the rock been curing?
 

jjlittle

Member
do have any live rock or is all your rock base curing. If you have live rock in you main tank I would add some of the curing rock in the main tank alot of people start with a mix of LR & base rock.
 

newfishguy

Member
My display tank is not setup yet. I am simply curing all of my lr in a rubbermaid container.
Originally Posted by jjlittle
do have any live rock or is all your rock base curing. If you have live rock in you main tank I would add some of the curing rock in the main tank alot of people start with a mix of LR & base rock.
 

newfishguy

Member
The only goal to curing rock is to get all of the smell out of it, isn't it? I have heard different arguments on this before but it makes the most sense. After three weeks everything should be fine by doing 100% water changes twice weekly. After that I could place it in my main display tank and everything should be fine.
The first question to this discussion was "Is it ok to dump your water where the sump pump in your basement is instead of hauling it upstairs to the sink? I dont' see a problem with that do you?
Originally Posted by jjlittle
I thought you may be talking about sump in basemaent like that. What type of curculation are u running in the cureing tank for if you were to increase it it may not stink as bad . I would do a max of 50% that way your not getting rid of alot of the bacteraia which would have to start over for you are trying to get the bacteria built up in the rocks and I would think that would slow the process down by removeing a lot of it.How long has the rock been curing?
 

bigsteve

Member
Originally Posted by newfishguy
The only goal to curing rock is to get all of the smell out of it, isn't it? I have heard different arguments on this before but it makes the most sense. After three weeks everything should be fine by doing 100% water changes twice weekly. After that I could place it in my main display tank and everything should be fine.
Sort of, but not exactly. The smell is caused by decaying organisms. Therefore, no smell, no "dead stuff". That's what you're trying to get rid of. You won't get rid of them by doing 100% water changes though.
You'll get rid of them by building up a population of bacteria that consume the "dead stuff" that won't simply rinse off. That's hard to do if you keep changing all the water where the bacteria live. I agree with only doing 50% at the most, I usually do more like 25%-30%, but last time I cured rock it was in a tank I was setting up, so I didn't want to to a major water change.
The first question to this discussion was "Is it ok to dump your water where the sump pump in your basement is instead of hauling it upstairs to the sink? I dont' see a problem with that do you?
Yes... as long as it won't clog anything up. It should be dumping somewhere outside anyway, so it's the same as just dumping it in the yard. If anything, used fish water is actually good for plants.
HTH h*
 

dogstar

Active Member
IMO the salt water will kill plants and grass if you just dump it in the yard. If you not on a septic tank system then just dump it in the sink and then run fresh water after it to rinse the salt on down.
 

bigsteve

Member
Originally Posted by Dogstar
IMO the salt water will kill plants and grass if you just dump it in the yard. If you not on a septic tank system then just dump it in the sink and then run fresh water after it to rinse the salt on down.
Actually, the two greenest thickest places in my yard are where I dump my used tank water and where we flush our pool filter. You'd think all the chemicals and chlorine in pool water would kill grass too, but.... h*
 
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shark bait

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When i cured the live rock i never did a water change the smell was only for a week. I had deep sea tonga rock about 50 lbs. it had all kinds of junk. I did however filter the water. I took the power head and put a thick screan bag and it took out large plant and other debrits. This did cut the ammonia down by kicking the dead matter. Unless you are starting a bio filter you don't need the junk, and the small bacteria will stay in the tank. Just food for thought.
 

jjlittle

Member
I have also seen where people run a protien skimmer on the cureing tank I would just put up with the stink for a week or so and see if things seem to start going away.
 
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