Early Birthday Present

aw2eod

Member
For my birthday, on Thurs, I ordered in a med/large Orange Shoulder Tang and a med/large Blue Lined Grouper.
After having to wait 3 days longer than promised, they both came in today.
The Orange Shoulder was maybe 2" long, so I didnt take it...but my newest addition is absolutely gorgeous.
He's probably 5" - 7".



10 minutes in the tank and he's already taken a swipe at my Whitemouth Moray, who got too close upon examining the Grouper. He's a tough little guy...not gonna take crap from anyone, including a Moray that's 4x his size.
 

dvst8r

Member
well my brother from another mother that is one cool looking fish however it raises just one question since hes taking swipes at your moray does that mean hes in the display tank already and that the almighty aw2 king of knowledge and the zeus of fish gods doesnt quarantine his fish like the mear mortals that are the rest of us

hey buddy not trying to be an arse just jealous
 

eels

New Member
(dragon moray eels) buddy has gotten an email of this new AW2 posting and myself talking to bud on the phone, buddy laughs about this because DVST8R has said it correctly. Bud says that AW always sounds as he know in what his talking about, but then again his answers to all you, you can find those same answers yourselves by typing into search.
Also note that buddy wishes me to tell you that it is rather very funny that one with little or no long term success, for bud had told me he knows this AW for about four years and he not as yet had the same fish from year too year.
Now bud says, he hopes you some idea in what your doing, but he also told me he doubts it that you do. The grouper for one thing is a hardy fish, so AW is lucky in that area of that grouper.
Bud is hoping you people will wake up to know this AW is no expert in the methods of keeping marine species.
He also said if i wasn't` removed that he like it if i let you people know of this and that i will then be removed from this precious site.
And one other thing bud wanted i say, the grouper will grow far faster its full size then the eels. But being that AW is the King of knowledge, as it was pointed out, he knows everything in which he does. buddy is again laughing so hard that he was crying tears of joy because this AW is a joker and a half with no true knowledge other then the fish he had lost from the start. AW will deny it and only act as if he lost a small handful of fish.
Buddy ask me to tell you just one more thing, if you wish for far better professional views see those who had been keeping their fish for many years and not someone like this AW2 for i know he will hate me as well as he hates buddy, but what do i care of that, this is my second post in all in any forums :)
AW, as soon as people do wake up about who you really are, the better they will be and to the staff, buddy offers you his apologies.
Josh> Happy fishing folks
 

lion_crazz

Active Member
AW is a very helpful and extremely beneficial part of this community. I am sure that there are hundreds of people here that he has helped quite a bit.
AW - that is a very nice looking grouper. I always liked those myself. Good luck with him!
 

actionjack

Member
AW2EOD - How big those guys get? I like how the verticle and horizontal stripes overlap...almost like magic markers :). Also, whats he eating, live or frozens?
 

aw2eod

Member
Thanks for the compliments, guys!!

Originally Posted by DVST8R
well my brother from another mother that is one cool looking fish however it raises just one question since hes taking swipes at your moray does that mean hes in the display tank already and that the almighty aw2 king of knowledge and the zeus of fish gods doesnt quarantine his fish like the mear mortals that are the rest of us
hey buddy not trying to be an arse just jealous

No problem at all. When putting fish into my display, that is only Morays, I do not quarentine. Morays are almost bullet proof, with almost no chance of getting disease, and they cant get common things like ich. So no...I didnt quarentine him. I also got this guy before he went into fish store tanks...he came right out of the wholesalers bag, into my tank.
Originally Posted by actionjack

AW2EOD - How big those guys get? I like how the verticle and horizontal stripes overlap...almost like magic markers :). Also, whats he eating, live or frozens?
I believe somewhere around 12" - 14", as an adult. The vertical, light colored lines, have faded and he's turned almost completely dark. From what I've seen, the vertical stripes come out when he's stressed, or threat posturing to the Morays. And, luckily...he's already eating frozen and believe it or not, off of the feeder stick. He ate krill yesterday and I havent had the chance to try again today.
 

sunburnt

Member
Wow! And I thought I would NEVER find a grouper pretty!! (No offense guys, just don't like the others!)
Andy - when you say he's almost completely dark... you DO mean that the blue lines are still very visible right? Any chance of pics sans the light lines?
:-( Sorry you're having to deal with Sybil. That's so unfortunate.
***)
 

titan

Member
The grouper is in your 200 with the DME and whitemouth, or the 90? Fish base puts them at 35cm, which is a nice sized grouper; not too big not too small.
 

aw2eod

Member
Originally Posted by Sunburnt
Andy - when you say he's almost completely dark... you DO mean that the blue lines are still very visible right? Any chance of pics sans the light lines?
He's turning a dark/olive green (sometimes bright green), but the blue lines are still showing very vibrant.


Originally Posted by Titan

The grouper is in your 200 with the DME and whitemouth, or the 90? Fish base puts them at 35cm, which is a nice sized grouper; not too big not too small.
He's in the 90, with the Morays. I'm still at my parents house, so it's not an option to set up the 200 again. As soon as I find a place, the 200 is definately going back up.
 

titan

Member
You still got those kill all hermits in the tank, and what is that on the right side of the PVC a mouse...Lol
 

aw2eod

Member
The hermits are still in there, yes...lol. The good thing is that the tank is not sectioned off, this time, so they're not trapped in a confined area, to pick on the fish. Plus, the Grouper is too big to be picked on.
The "mouse" is one of the Nassarius Snails. lol
 

hot883

Active Member
AW2EOD, awesome fish and enjoy your posts everytime. I appreciate your knowledge and help you have bestowed (sp) upon me in the past.
Beautiful addition to the tank. Thanks for sharing
 

eels

New Member
Here is an email that bud has asked me in posting and AW, he is still laughing because those who do think you to be this expert with so much knowledge really isn`t what AW seems.
lion_crazz or anyone else who backs AW, the joke is really on you, the info he has been posting with is info he gotten from the internet or others who posted information for others who had asked pretty much the same question.
Some you seen his aggressiveness towards unleashed that when AW hates something, he looks to get even in any which way he can for I know that he is in -- and I believe I know under what name, I also know he be very stupid in exposing himself to me there.
I am not aggressive to those who wants to knows best in what to do, those crazy things happens because of those who not like to hear their tanks will not work, for it was almost the same thing with one in --, because he done it with what he has for few months, he thinks it will last forever. I did tell him that it is his business in how he does it and if that im too only waste time with him that I not will waste anymore time that he could house a tess in a gold fish bowl if he wanted.
For him too be sounding all the same as those others who got nasty right off the bat, I will not waste the time of day with one who do everything wrong in the long term care of any marine animal. And being that I not be able to do anything about it,. I had chosen too drop and forget about it, I told him I will not talk about tank size again. He is on his own and only because of the type of different info that is out there on the net that he thinks im wrong, time will prove differently.
That be another thing the expert AW2 has done, the 200 not even up and running and his no idea in when and he runs out for more fish to add in the 90 with the eels :( That is very unprofessional, but of course, you always an answer to excuse your ignorance.
Quote:: You still got those kill all hermits in the tank, and what is that on the right side of the PVC a mouse...Lol
Titan, The problem there was, he gotten those straight from the ocean, he shouldn't had first placed them in his main tank for which the lfs get in hermits and snails that are mostly tank raised and not all from the wild. An expert would had known there could be risk involved. The same thing when buying a fish that one already knew had ich and place it into the main tank.
Like you said, you don't quarantine, for you never ever quarantine a fish ever from the first time I`ve known you, it must be because your so much better then all for I quarantine my fish and I know better then you and I quarantine.
In your response, you are doing all you can to save face with the poor souls here who wants to learn from people who has personal knowledge and not from someone like yourself, you are like a kid who wants the attention you get here, AW knows this, ask AW, he knows and in that other site you complain about it and here is your chance to break away, let the people know the true you that your not the expert they are lead out to believe you to be.
Call me idiot, I not care for it only be as true as your the idiot for if you people know the site his at that he had posted all his screw ups and I told some other person that its funny, he not would post those screw ups here at swf, he had each year of a number of time of problems and each year his fish died on him and now he is in here giving you all his smart talk in which is really only from what research his able to do as well as others who giving professional views to others. Most of what he had post in response, you can find it yourselves in search, besides, how many times he not said anything and he told those people to look it up in goggle was it..
 

eels

New Member
Had to post it in two parts > Josh
AW, your no reputation as an expert hobbyist and in time these poor people will learn this that your nothing more then a joker in disguise for you are honestly no expert. And also people, your AW expert, because he hates me, he tried to show me up in eels info, but he never could succeed in it and another thing Mr expert, you giving a name to one in your first site of choice, you professionally had giving him the name Black Edge Moray (Gymnothorax saxicola)
http://www.grimreefers.com/forums/in...showtopic=8080
You see, that name Gymnothorax saxicola belongs to the Ocellated moray and it grows 2' for which the Black Edge Moray as you say it, you got the name and size and all from peteducation.com
<http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=16&cat=1870&articleid=3162>
For the true name for the Blackedge moray is Gymnothorax nigromarginatus and that the Blackedge can grow much larger then 30" as AW said it does, again you never paid attention to our talks we had about the eel names in how many sites changes the eels names.
It is why I laugh and laugh again of you, you all the time trying to prove your this expert and it is also funny yet, only here at SWF are you this super knowledge expert, and no where else.
I never refer people to gobble or goggle whatever it is, I tell them and if I can show them something, I post them the location
I also told you of why that Jewel moray died, I also know that you added to the eels stress in what you yourself did, you figure it out expert.
I also know AW, that you use anything to get the heat off yourself, say anything as well use others to draw off people from asking you questions of what be your true success in keeping fish other then short post responses for you told people nothing of what your true experiences be other thing you make it out that your so full of knowledge, in which there be two people here that know your not for sure, myself for one and the other be yourself and I know you lie in the best way you can.
So people question the fact to what he really has managed for I know him for about four years and he not have the same fish each years for what is success, had the fish or the person still have the fish?
DME :)
 

aw2eod

Member
Originally Posted by Eels
I know him for about four years
DME :)

Out of all of that garbled, mixed up, crazy man talk, this is the only thing I could really understand.
I've only been in the hobby for 2.5 - 3 years. I never met you until I signed up on Grim, which was when I first started. How is it that you've known me for 4 years?? Have you been peeping Tom, on me??
Please, for the love of Almighty Jesus, go take your nitroglycerin heart

[hr]
and chill out...the only thing you're accomplishing is giving me alot of good laughs, tonight.

Oh...and thank you for slipping up and signing your post "DME". We all knew it was you.
 
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