EMERGENCY Help needed

leona

leona

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Ok with our luck with fish passes on to the other side. We want to treat our sick fish ASAP. Our baby hippo tang has ich. I've already posted on the sick forum and a nice person answered a few questions for me. My question is
Our 29 g is
not ready for qt but should be by this weekend
We have a 2 1/2 g tank that we could put up for emergency. Can we use the 2 1/2? Will it stress out our tang to much. We are going to treat with copper.
Next question, Is a air pump with a stone and a whisper filter ok for the emergency tank?
Thanks for all your help
We really want to find out because she's itching pretty bad and we don't want her to hurt herself.
The Seacure says 1 drop per gallon should we make a few gallons and just treat her that way. I know we will have to get the fast test test kit for copper we got the wrong one the last time actually the LFS said it didn't matter.
Help
LEona
 
leona

leona

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that's confusing to me. How would I do that I've read about it but still don't understand it and can we do it with our 2 1/2 or wait to set up our 29g qt. I don't want to treat or maybe I do my 75g
Leona
 
birdy

birdy

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Leona, I would not use copper, sometimes copper kills them faster than ich. Look into hyposalinity treatment.
Couldy you do a water change on your 29gal QT with tank water so that it can could be ready for your fish.
 
leona

leona

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Funny you should say that Birdy. To make a long story short we were thinking of doing that and at that time change our CC to LS. But we don't have the "Live" sand just yet from bang guy. Could we still use the trop sand and when we get the LS just add it?
Should we treat the whole tank with hypsalinity or just tang?
Leona
 
col

col

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2 1/2 gallon is a pretty small tank but you are stuck for choices really.
Hyposalinity must be done properly (with a refractometer). It involves slowly lowering the salinity (SG) until it kills the ich and then slowly raising it again.
If you use copper you will need to do it properly aswell, using a test kit.
Test your QT daily for ammonia and nitrite if it isn't already established.
What else is in your main tank now?
 
leona

leona

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Originally posted by col
2 1/2 gallon is a pretty small tank but you are stuck for choices really.
Hyposalinity must be done properly (with a refractometer). It involves slowly lowering the salinity (SG) until it kills the ich and then slowly raising it again.
If you use copper you will need to do it properly aswell, using a test kit.
Test your QT daily for ammonia and nitrite if it isn't already established.
What else is in your main tank now?
We don't have a refractometer. We are using the little non school clothes money to purchase sand and more rock.
Our 75 has
1 Ocellaris clown
1 3 stripe damsel
1 Hippo tang
1 yellow tail damsel
2 blennys scooter
2 peppermint shrimp
1 turbo snail
1 royal gramma
1 tomatoe clown
We were planning on getting the correct test kit for copper today and we test our tank 75 about 3-4 a week.
Leona
 
leona

leona

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Originally posted by col
Yeah, what else is in the 75g?
sorry the above message was for birdie not you col.
Sorry for the mix up
Leona
 
col

col

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In that case you can't really treat your 75 gallon because it has stock in there (you would never put copper in your main tank anyway).
I would use the water from your 75g and fill or part fill your 29g. Mix up some fresh salt water and get it to the right temperature to put in your 75g.
A simple filter of any kind will do in the 29g, with a heater and somewhere for the fish to hide (ornaments, pipe, rock etc).
Then treat your infected fish in the 29g. I haven't had to use hypo or copper so I can't comment on which is best, but I think copper may be your best choice at the moment.
Be aware that some of your other fish may come down with ich as they have been in a tank with an infected fish.
 
leona

leona

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Thanks since time is of the esscence I guess we will just kill 2 birds with one stone and set up our 29 qt and change our cc to ls in our 75. Use the water from our 75 to set up our 29 that way it won't cycle as much only a mini one.
Leona
 
birdy

birdy

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sounds like a good idea Leona, and yes you can and should put the tropical sand in first then put the LS in on top of it.
I have never used copper so I cannot really tell you anything, except there are two types of copper treatments and one is lousy and the other works but is very hard on the fish. I have always done hypo treatments but as was stated you need a refractometer (there is just no end to things you "need" in this hobby :rolleyes: )
Good luck, hope your fishy pulls through and the sand switch goes smoothly, Expect a really really cloudy tank for a while.
Not sure what other fish you have in your tank but you need to take them all out and put them through the treatment and leave your tank free of fish for 4wks so the ich in the tank dies.
 
birdy

birdy

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Leona, just so you know it is best to cure that sand before you put it in an established tank, but if you are going to take everything out of your tank and add more LR (basically start over) then you should be fine, your tank will cycle probably. Maybe use 50% of your old water and 50% new water.
 
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