End of our Hobby - **** you US Gov

reefraff

reefraff

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Maybe we should just ban Florida

Whats the point of banning the fish after it's already been introduced into the wild? I can't believe how dumb people can be. There is a park near the town where I grew up with a small lake in it. Some years back a kid caught a Parhanna in it. They have been banned in the state for years. What kind of an idiot sets something like that loose in a lake that is known for being a spot where little kids go to fish.
 
spanko

spanko

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100% accountability to what point? Point of import, Point of sale, License requirement to buy one? Then what is the enforcement after it is in the hands of the consumer?
I am kind of on the fence on this one. Don't think now that the lionfish is out of the aquarium so to speak that anything we do will mitigate the problem. The Atlantic is a big place and to think that we could effectively rid it of a lionfish population seems a little far fetched to me. I think someone said earlier to let nature take it's course. Also some small ones found in grouper stomachs? I wonder where the balance would end up without our intervention to stem it?
 
pontius

pontius

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Originally Posted by COWFISHRULE
http:///forum/post/2669966
drain the ocean. that will get rid of the lionfish in the AO problem, and all of your South Florida critter problems.
that's pretty funny. when I was 5 years old and watching "Jaws" (yes, a 5 yr old watching Jaws. and Cujo was one of my favorites at that tender age as well), I thought that the logical way to stop a killer shark like Jaws would be to drain the ocean. of course, I also thought that Jaws was a real shark that had been trained to allow the actors to get inside it's mouth to make it look like they were being eaten.
 
bgbdwlf2500

bgbdwlf2500

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i didnt read through the whole thread but this is a topic I DO understand after spending 6 months in Australia.....Australia is an island and way back in the day someone introduced Cane toads because of a crop that was being infested by a certain bug which is a Cane toad delicacy...
a Cane toad has poisonous skin to just about everything...anything that tries to eat it dies...well anybody that knows anything about frogs knows that they will reproduce in numbers we cant even fathom...well they have done that in australia and its bad....there is nothing that will kill them in mass numbers without killing everything else too....
bottom line is, releasing stuff in an ECO system it DID NOT come from will kill the whole eco system.... so that being said, sorry 95 harley any lion fish not in its original eco system needs to be killed or captured and taken back...we dont see it as much because the US isnt an island....send a simple piece of WOOD to australia and see what they do with it.... INCINERATE no questions asked because they dont want any BUGS we may have in their country..easier to prevent than fix
all that being said, the problem is not GETTING species its the idiots that release them where they dont belong...
 
gmann1139

gmann1139

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Originally Posted by 95Harley
http:///forum/post/2669311
Do I not have to option of wearing a helmet or not on a motorcycle and putting my life at risk? I mean it's my life right? Seabelt law, bicycle Helmet law?

I have no problem with you turning your head into a nice bowl of jello. However, your accident affects the insurance rates for the rest of us.
Especially after seeing that study that just came out of a state after they relaxed motorcycle helmet laws (I think it was PA). Accident rates stayed the same, but fatalities went through the roof.
Keep your brain in the bucket, where it belongs, and not on the roadways.
 
bgbdwlf2500

bgbdwlf2500

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Originally Posted by gmann1139
http:///forum/post/2670811
I have no problem with you turning your head into a nice bowl of jello. However, your accident affects the insurance rates for the rest of us.
Especially after seeing that study that just came out of a state after they relaxed motorcycle helmet laws (I think it was PA). Accident rates stayed the same, but fatalities went through the roof.
Keep your brain in the bucket, where it belongs, and not on the roadways.

on a seatbelt/helmet law i agree on this one.....a dead person costs nothing...same thing as a person on death row for 20 years... its AMERICA, i have a choice to wear a seatbelt...insurance is for the people not at fault
EDIT: whether anyone will admit it or not theres already way to many people in the world which is causing lots of problems (food)
 
m0nk

m0nk

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Originally Posted by gmann1139
http:///forum/post/2670811
I have no problem with you turning your head into a nice bowl of jello. However, your accident affects the insurance rates for the rest of us.
Especially after seeing that study that just came out of a state after they relaxed motorcycle helmet laws (I think it was PA). Accident rates stayed the same, but fatalities went through the roof.
Keep your brain in the bucket, where it belongs, and not on the roadways.
This is true, you can go without a helmet in PA, but for me, especially after that study, I won't ride without one. I like to ride fast, though...
 
bgbdwlf2500

bgbdwlf2500

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Originally Posted by m0nk
http:///forum/post/2670841
This is true, you can go without a helmet in PA, but for me, especially after that study, I won't ride without one. I like to ride fast, though...
if by this you mean speed then they should take your license not make you wear a helmet
 
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