Excessice Celebrations: Football

treybom

Member
Okay well i just was watching VT vs FSU and Michael Vick got an unsportsman like conduct penalty thrown at him cuz he jumped up and spiked the ball in the endzone..! What is that... he didnt do anything! i mean does anyone know the official rules like what is and isnt acceptable!?
NFL:
the nfl allows much more celebrations for the scoring players... and i honestly love the celebrations and i cant stand the anal retentive people, fans, commentators, refs, commisioners, etc that critticize the people for doing them...
so i guess im just opening this up to discussion
***)
 

treybom

Member
and it was just announced that chad johnson was fined $5k for the golf celebration... come on thats riddiculous..it was all of what..? 5- 10 seconds
i mean let the guys that score celebrate i mean if you have the ball and are going for the endzone, there are 11 other BIG guys on the field that are trying to beat the living crap out of you and will do anythingto keep you out of the endzone...
any one have any thoughts on any of this ***)
 

clown123

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i dont watch college football but is michael vick uhh o frgt his name the vick on the falcons brother?
 

treybom

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Originally Posted by clown123
i dont watch college football but is michael vick uhh o frgt his name the vick on the falcons brother?
yup
 

dogstar

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"" anal retentive people ""
Who would want to discuss any thing with you if your going to start a conversation buy calling anyone who disagrees with you THAT.
 

jocoxvt

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It was actually Marcus Vick you are talking about (Michael is the one in the pros playing for the Falcons). The difference is that in college you are not allowed to spike the ball at all any time you do it is considered excessive celebration. The rule differs from pro where it happens all the time but non the less that is why you see it in the pros and why he was penalized last night.
 

scubadoo

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NCAA rule as ammended 2005
Rule 9-2-1-a-1-a
Unsportsmanlike acts. Added listing of examples developed by CCA supervisors of officials and others to this section to encourage more consistent application of this rule:
“Examples of such acts include, but are not limited to:
--Imitating a slash of the throat;
--Resembling the firing of a weapon;
--Bowing at the waist;
--Punching one’s own chest excessively;
--Crossing one’s arms in front of the chest;
--Placing one’s hand by the ear as if to indicate that the player cannot hear the spectators;
--Diving into the end zone when unchallenged by an opponent;
--Entering the end zone with an unnatural stride (e.g., high stepping);
--Going significantly beyond the end line to interact with spectators;
--Standing over a prone player in a taunting manner;
--Attempting to make the ball spin as it were a top;
--Performing a choreographed act with a teammate(s) (e.g., pretending to take a photo, falling down in unison); and
--Entering the field of play by coaches or substitutes in protest of officials’ calls.”
Additionally, the committee added language to the rule that reads: “Spontaneous celebrating with teammates on the field of play, provided it is not prolonged, taunting or intended to bring attention to the individual player, is allowed.”
Rationale: By providing a list of examples, the committee hopes to assist officials to consistently enforce this penalty. Also, the committee believes there are some situations in which celebration penalties are flagged where the celebration was spontaneous and not excessive or prolonged. This isn’t a lessening of the penalty, but a reminder that team celebrations encouragement should be allowed.
 

treybom

Member
Originally Posted by Dogstar
"" anal retentive people ""
Who would want to discuss any thing with you if your going to start a conversation buy calling anyone who disagrees with you THAT.
sorry... i just feel strongly and am stating my opinion...
 

treybom

Member
Originally Posted by jocoxVT
It was actually Marcus Vick you are talking about (Michael is the one in the pros playing for the Falcons). The difference is that in college you are not allowed to spike the ball at all any time you do it is considered excessive celebration. The rule differs from pro where it happens all the time but non the less that is why you see it in the pros and why he was penalized last night.
sorry my bad... i meant marcus lol ima fan of michaeal thats probably why
 

scubadoo

Active Member
Originally Posted by treybom
and it was just announced that chad johnson was fined $5k for the golf celebration... come on thats riddiculous..it was all of what..? 5- 10 seconds
i mean let the guys that score celebrate i mean if you have the ball and are going for the endzone, there are 11 other BIG guys on the field that are trying to beat the living crap out of you and will do anythingto keep you out of the endzone...
any one have any thoughts on any of this ***)
Yes, the fine was too low. I have no problems with a little dance or a creative spike. Sometimes these things grow if left unchecked...much like the TO spiking of the ball at midfield on the Cowboys Star. Where do your draw the line? Spike the ball do a little dance if you must and get the hell off the field.
The NFL has defined excessive celebration..this would fall within the spirit of the rules. This rule is no secret and was instituted/updated at the beginning of the 2004 season. No secret...fine is justified...whether the team received a 15 year penalty or not. Players are often fined by the league for hits, etc that did not daw a flag.
Fine is justified but too low in my opinion.
 

scubadoo

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Thie history of TD celebration....
The pioneers
* George Saimes, a back at Michigan State in the early 1960s, is believed to be the first player, college or pro, to flip the ball in the air after scoring. Saimes joined the Buffalo Bills of the AFL as a safety in 1963 and had a 10-year career, with five AFL all-star game appearances.
* In 1964, wide receiver Homer Jones of Texas Southern joined the New York Giants. He is credited with being the first NFL player ever to spike the ball. He did it after 35 touchdowns.
* Elmo Wright, a rookie wide receiver for the Kansas City Chiefs, introduced his high-stepping end zone dance in 1971, becoming the first NFL player to celebrate in the end zone. On Nov. 18, 1973, after catching a touchdown pass from Len Dawson in a 38-14 win over the Houston Oilers, Wright ran in place at a frantic pace, pumping his knees and his arms, stopping long enough to slam the ball to the ground.
* Billy "White Shoes" Johnson had been a football showman since his Chichester High School days in Boothwyn, Pa. in the late '60s. He convinced his coach that wearing white shoes helped him run faster. Johnson debuted his "Funky Chicken" dance at Widener College and introduced it to the NFL when he was a rookie with the Houston Oilers in 1974. In his 14 NFL seasons, he sometimes punctuated the dance by doing the splits.
Shuffling and quaking
* The Ickey Shuffle
Cincinnati Bengals rookie running back Ickey Woods came up with a goofy little dance in 1988. Following each touchdown, Woods would turn to the crowd with his arms outstretched, hop twice to the left, twice to the right, spike the ball and then twirl his right index finger over his head while swiveling his hips and howling, "Woo! Woo! Woo!" The NFL later made Woods shuffle on the sideline only.
* The Fun Bunch
Washington Redskins players, led by the wide receivers, gathered in the end zone after a touchdown for a group high-five. Sometimes an opposing player (such as the Cowboys' Everson Walls) tried to intervene, and eventually the league issued a rule in 1984 that was intended to limit extravagant end zone celebrations.
* The California Quake
After scoring, Cowboys wide receiver Butch Johnson would pretend his hands were six-shooters, fire away, blow the smoke from his fingertips and place his hands back at his sides as if to reholster. The league eventually forced Johnson to retire his Wild West antics.
* Joe Horn calls home
After scoring a TD for the New Orleans Saints in 2003, wide receiver Joe Horn grabbed a cell phone that a teammate had hidden in the goal post padding and called his Mom. The NFL fined Horn $30,000.
* Terrell Owens looks sharp
After scoring a touchdown in 2002, Terrell Owens grabbed a Sharpie marker from inside his sock, autographed the football and handed it to his agent, who was sitting in the end-zone stands.
* The Bob and Weave
This touchdown dance was made famous by the St. Louis Rams in 2000, the year they won the Super Bowl. After a score, the Rams would form a circle, crouch low and then bob around as if they were shadow boxing. The league banned the dance and said it was concerned "about the effects celebrations like the Bob and Weave will have on children watching."
The Lambeau leap
Robert Brooks is credited with popularizing the celebratory move, but safety LeRoy Butler is the innovator of the Lambeau Leap — the touchdown celebration in which the scoring player leaps into the arms of awaiting fans in the stands.
On Dec. 26, 1993, Los Angeles Raiders quarterback Vince Evans completed a second-down swing pass to running back Randy Jordan, who took the ball to the Raiders' 40-yard-line before Butler forced a fumble that was recovered by Reggie White at the Raiders' 35. After running with the ball for 10 yards, White lateralled it to Butler, who ran the remaining 25 yards into the end zone and then made a spontaneous leap into the arms of fans in the south bleachers. The Packers go on to win 28-0 to clinch what would be the first of six consecutive playoff berths.
 

scubadoo

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The duds
* In 1997, Washington Redskins Gus Frerotte head-butted a wall behind the end zone after scoring a touchdown and suffered a concussion. Knocked senseless, Frerotte missed the remainder of the game and several weeks after that. He lost his starting job in Washington and has bounced around the league since. He currently starts for the Miami Dolphins.
* Excitable kicker Bill Gramatica suffered a season-ending knee injury in 2001 when he jumped for joy after converting a 42-yard field goal for the Arizona Cardinals against the New York Giants. Gramatica was not even celebrating a game-winning effort — the kick came in the first quarter. When he landed after jumping in the air, Gramatica tore ligaments in his right knee and was sidelined for months.
* In a 2000 game at Dallas, San Francisco receiver Terrell Owens celebrated a TD by dancing on the Cowboys' star at midfield. Dallas defensive back George Teague blindsided him during the celebration, sending him sprawling to the turf. Owens was suspended a week.
* One of the more memorable premature celebrations occurred in Super Bowl XXVIII. Leon Lett was about to give Dallas a touchdown with a long fumble return, when Buffalo receiver Don Beebe came out of nowhere to knock the ball out of the showboating Lett's hands just he crosses the goal line.
* In a 1997 game, rookie cornerback Artrell Hawkins of the Cincinnati Bengals scooped up a fumble by the Jacksonville Jaguars and started down the sideline. He needed to run only 40 yards, and he seemed certain to score. But when he started to celebrate and point back at opposing players, he slowed and was brought down at the 15-yard line by Tony Boselli, a 329-pound tackle.>
 

zsalinas

Member
Personally I love the celebrations. It just makes the games more exciting to watch. I was mad this weekend because Chad Johnson didn't score, even though the bengals won. The league sucks if they take away any type of celebration. Who cares they're excited to score some points for the team and possible win the game. I'd be excited as hell too in fact lil bro and I were talking about if we were in the NFL what our celebrations would be. It's all good and fun. I love to watch the exciting players that do these things. It's no different then the huge linebackers getting a sack and walking down the field flexing and all that. It's all fun and games.
 

darth tang

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Originally Posted by ScubaDoo
The duds
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* In a 2000 game at Dallas, San Francisco receiver Terrell Owens celebrated a TD by dancing on the Cowboys' star at midfield. Dallas defensive back George Teague blindsided him during the celebration, sending him sprawling to the turf. Owens was suspended a week.
It wasn't Teague it was Woodson.
 
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