Fighting un-ethical drs Here's the standard

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huskychasrs

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Principles of Medical Ethics
PREAMBLE:
The medical profession has long subscribed to a body of ethical statements developed primarily for the benefit of the patient. As a member of this profession, a physician must recognize responsibility to patients first and foremost, as well as to society, to other health professionals, and to self. The following Principles adopted by the American Medical Association are not laws, but standards of conduct which define the essentials of honorable behavior for the physician.
I. A physician shall be dedicated to providing competent medical care, with compassion and respect for human dignity and rights.
II. A physician shall uphold the standards of professionalism, be honest in all professional interactions, and strive to report physicians deficient in character or competence, or engaging in fraud or deception, to appropriate entities.
III. A physician shall respect the law and also recognize a responsibility to seek changes in those requirements which are contrary to the best interests of the patient.
IV. A physician shall respect the rights of patients, colleagues, and other health professionals, and shall safeguard patient confidences and privacy within the constraints of the law.
V. A physician shall continue to study, apply, and advance scientific knowledge, maintain a commitment to medical education, make relevant information available to patients, colleagues, and the public, obtain consultation, and use the talents of other health professionals when indicated.
VI. A physician shall, in the provision of appropriate patient care, except in emergencies, be free to choose whom to serve, with whom to associate, and the environment in which to provide medical care.
VII. A physician shall recognize a responsibility to participate in activities contributing to the improvement of the community and the betterment of public health.
VIII. A physician shall, while caring for a patient, regard responsibility to the patient as paramount.
IX. A physician shall support access to medical care for all people.
Adopted June 1957; revised June 1980; revised June 2001
 

jennythebugg

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i wish the E.R. docs here would listen to that it seems like if you have an emergency they treat you like you are inconveniencing (sp)them by being there
 

ruaround

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just like most other things medical is BIG business... upholding all of these things all of the time would lose companies millions... especially the last one... i agree with what jenny said... i think triage is now to find out who has insurance and $$$ rather than who needs help NOW...
 

adairable

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IMO people are too willing to sue doctors.
A lot of times the ER doctor and any doctor for that reason are too scared/intimidated to make life saving decisions because if they make the wrong one or even make the right one, if there are any complications, they are sued by the person they just saved.
 

adairable

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And I think that in a perfect world all of the above would hold true, but what is the responsibility of the patient?
 
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huskychasrs

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That text is from the AMA website.
I've dealing with a difficult specialist, one that actually had the nerve to yell at me over the phone and hang-up on me.
I decided to look him up and see if he was in fact a member of the AMA and he is not.
I'll be filing a complaint with my insurance co.
 

nvmycj

Member
Originally Posted by ruaround
just like most other things medical is BIG business... upholding all of these things all of the time would lose companies millions... especially the last one... i agree with what jenny said... i think triage is now to find out who has insurance and $$$ rather than who needs help NOW...

Originally Posted by jennythebugg

i wish the E.R. docs here would listen to that it seems like if you have an emergency they treat you like you are inconveniencing (sp)them by being there

Now hold up ya'll.....I've been doing ER medicine for nearly 13 years.
Ruaround: I you had a TRUE emergency, you'd probably be coming in by ambulance, vs through triage. Yes, hospitals are a business run operation, and if your triage category has you sitting back down in the waiting room,... yeah I think there's time to ask how you're paying for your ER visit.
Jenny: My apologies to you for having been treated that way. I'm sure your treatment wasn't directed to your personally. Here's what I mean.....
For example,....a ER provider just finishes coding a 6 month old for just under an hour. He/she pronounces the child and has to go tell the parents. After spending some time and tears with the family, he/she goes to the bathroom and refreshes himself and wipes his tears. He goes and picks up the next chart to go see, and it's a patient with an GOSH DARN HANG NAIL that came in by ambulance!!!!!!!
So, as you can see, there is a LARGE rollercoaster of emotion that occurs. And again, if you thought that the MD was thinking that you were inconveniencing him/her, I'm sorry.
I would love my job 100x's more if I took care of TRUE emergencies at least 20% of the time. Unfortunately, the Emergency Room has turned into an Emergency Clinic. Stuff that can be seen in a community clinic, fast track, or best yet your primary care provider.
 

nvmycj

Member
Originally Posted by Adairable
IMO people are too willing to sue doctors.
A lot of times the ER doctor and any doctor for that reason are too scared/intimidated to make life saving decisions because if they make the wrong one or even make the right one, if there are any complications, they are sued by the person they just saved.
This is more true than you know. A lot of the treatment regime that ER's do, I've nick-named, "court room medicine."
 

nvmycj

Member
Originally Posted by huskychasrs
That text is from the AMA website.
I've dealing with a difficult specialist, one that actually had the nerve to yell at me over the phone and hang-up on me.
I decided to look him up and see if he was in fact a member of the AMA and he is not.
I'll be filing a complaint with my insurance co.

Your specialist is an ass. Very unprofessional and you'd do better without that kind of provider. Good luck in your search for a new specialist.
 

zman1

Active Member
We can add to the previous story. The mother brought the baby in early in the evening on Saturday and was sent home by the ER to only be brought back in early Sunday morning non responsive. So in this case, I could careless how that staff feels since the hospital is going into liability mitigation mode. Thank goodness neither of those situations happen all that often...
Not sure if your state has a online Division of Professtional Regulation License look up -
https://www.idfpr.com/DPR/licenselookup/default.asp
This is just the report for May, as you can see how the Doctors and Nurses try to bounce from one state to another... Thank goodness it catches up. Hopefully before a situation like above occours..
MEDICAL
Franklin H. Baroi, Chicago – physician and surgeon license (036-071434) placed in
refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of Arizona.
Suzanne Bock, Chicago – physician and surgeon license (036-091550) placed in refuse
to renew status after being disciplined in the state of Georgia.
Robert Paul D’Ambrosio, Libertyville – physician and surgeon license (036-
app1613021) issued with reprimand after being disciplined in the state of Pennsylvania.
Mary Jane Eicher, St. Petersburg, FL – physician and surgeon license (036-105800)
placed in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of Florida.
William Vincent Gaul, Phoenix, AZ – physician and surgeon license (036-052263)
placed in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of Arizona.
Mitchell J. Ghen, Landrum, SC – physician and surgeon license (036-087305) placed
in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of North Carolina.
Charles E. Goodell III, Rock Island – physician and surgeon license (036-054510)
placed in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of New Mexico.
Ernest Gresham, New Orleans, LA – physician and surgeon license (036-073635)
placed in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of Louisiana.
Michael Hammer, Chicago – physician and surgeon license (036-app2252371) issued
with reprimand after being disciplined in the state of Alabama.
M. Franklin Harrison IV, Mount Vernon – physician and surgeon license (036-
076625) temporarily suspended after violating state and federal laws and regulations related to
dispensing and keeping of the controlled substances as well as excessive ordering and
prescribing of the controlled substances.
Mark R. Hemphill, Chicago – physician and surgeon license (036-090447) placed in
refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of Arizona.
John D. Holloman, Palo Alto, CA – physician and surgeon license (036-035028) placed
in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of Michigan.
Louis A. James, Mt. Prospect – physician and surgeon license (036-067831)
indefinitely suspended for failure to file and/or pay Illinois state income taxes.
Mohamed A. Khalaf, Lockport, NY – physician and surgeon license (036-089246)
placed on probation for five years retroactive to February 9, 2006 after being disciplined in the
state of New York.
Raymond L. Krzyzaniak, Portsmouth, VA – physician and surgeon license (036-
077000) placed in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of North Carolina.
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Andrea Mallet Martin, Long Beach, CA – physician and surgeon license (036-098046)
placed in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of California.
Gerald James McCann, Elmonte, CA – physician and surgeon license (036-043537)
placed in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of California.
Monty P. McClellan, Prospect, KY – physician and surgeon license (036-041364)
restored to indefinite probation for a minimum of three years.
Julienne E. Melton, Hinsdale – physician and surgeon license (036-078474)
reprimanded and fined $2,000 for failure to comply with continuing education requirements.
Umar Murad, Lexington, KY – physician and surgeon license (036-088846) placed on
probation retroactive from November 18, 2004 to March 1, 2006 after being disciplined in the
state of Kentucky.
Alan H. Olefsky, Des Plaines – physician and surgeon license (036-078254) indefinitely
suspended for a minimum of six months and upon restoration, placed on indefinite probation for
a minimum of five years after violating the terms of his previous probation.
 

zman1

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Thanalakshmi Paramandhan, Richmond – physician and surgeon license (036-
046270) and controlled substance license (336-012869) temporarily suspended due to
unprofessional conduct and violation of state and federal controlled substance laws.
Babubhai Patel, Vandalia – physician and surgeon license (036-067745) indefinitely
suspended after receiving a felony conviction for fraudulent billing.
James T. Quinlan, Ada, OK – physician and surgeon license (036-118469) and
controlled substance license (336-079629) issued and placed on probation for five years after
being disciplined in the state of Oklahoma.
Craig Schiff, Chicago – physician and surgeon license (036-090209) reprimanded and
fined $1,000 for failure to respond to a request for information from the Department.
David J. Schopick, Chicago – physician and surgeon license (036-069654) reprimanded
after being disciplined in the state of New Hampshire.
Kent E. Skogerson, Berwyn – physician and surgeon license (036-064922) placed in
refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of Nevada.
Galo L. Tan, Gurnee – physician and surgeon license (036-045389) and controlled
substance license (336-012283) indefinitely suspended for controlled substance violations.
Antonio Tiu Que, Buffalo Grove – physician and surgeon license (036-049623) placed
on indefinite probation for a minimum of three years after being disciplined in the state of New
York.
Luis Tumialan, St. Louis, MO – physician and surgeon license (036-042844) placed in
refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of Missouri.
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Nagaraja Vishakantaiah, Hickory Hills – physician and surgeon license (036-097496)
placed in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of Virginia.
Alaka Waikar, Frankfort – physician and surgeon license (036-056348) suspended by
operation of Cook County Circuit Court order entered.
Mahmoud Yassin, Robinson – physician and surgeon license (036-083286) placed on
indefinite probation for a minimum of three years and fined $5,000 due to his immoral conduct
of a sexual nature with three female patients in 2001 and with a medical student in 2002.
Robin Ann Yurk, Studio City, CA – physician and surgeon license (036-102687)
placed in refuse to renew status after being disciplined in the state of California.
E. Linda Jardon, Burr Ridge – chiropractor license (038-006358) reprimanded and
fined $2,000 for failure to comply with continuing education requirements.
Steven J. Ong Belano, Downers Grove – chiropractor license (038-008699)
reprimanded and fined $2000 for failure to comply with continuing education requirements.
Steven J. Sonenblum, Chicago – chiropractor license (038-009308) indefinitely
suspended due to unprofessional conduct and improper use or abuse of controlled substances
after issuing forged checks and admitting that he has abused controlled substances.
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Thomas M. Voitas, Chicago – chiropractor license (038-004835) reprimanded and fined
$2,000 for failure to comply with continuing education requirements.
Susan Lynn Biesterfeld, Mundelein – physician assistant license (085-000913)
indefinitely suspended for controlled substance violations and use or abuse of controlled
substances by improperly obtaining controlled substance prescriptions and suffering from an
addiction to controlled substances.
Jimmy L. Walker Jr., Lombard – physician assistant license (085-002474) and
physician assistant controlled substance license (385-001369) placed in refuse to renew status for
being more than 30 days delinquent in the payment of child support.
American Laser Centers, Fox River Grove – (unlicensed) ordered to cease and desist
the unlicensed practice of medicine.
Travis Rader of Body Beautiful Laser Medi-Spa & Midwest Longevity Clinic,
Arlington Heights – (unlicensed) ordered to cease and desist the unlicensed practice of
medicine.
Mike Ogwal, Decatur – (unlicensed) ordered to cease and desist the unlicensed practice
of medicine, including but not limited to, diagnosis of disease, prescription or directing cessation
of prescription medications and massage therapy.
NURSING
Terri Blume, Oswego – registered nurse license (041-217435) restored to probation with
work restrictions for two years.
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Jeanie Cogswell, Mohamet – registered nurse license (041-273424) indefinitely
suspended for a minimum of 12 months after testing positive for cocaine while her license was
on probation.
Gloria Ifebueme, South Holland – registered nurse license (041-326129) reprimanded
for leaving her shift without first administering STAT medication.
Gina Inglima Casas, Greenville – registered nurse license (041-360249) issued and
placed on probation for three years due to her arrest for possession of cocaine.
 

zman1

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Christina Jean, Frankfort – registered nurse license (041-333401) placed on probation
for one year for diversion of Dilaudid from her employer.
James Scooler, Peoria – registered nurse license (041-356694) indefinitely suspended
for a minimum of six months for failure to abide by terms of a Care, Counseling and Treatment
Agreement.
Annette Stevens, Springfield – registered nurse license (041-270676) placed on
probation for three years after pled guilty to manufacture/delivery of a controlled substance and
placed on probation for 36 months.
Susan Welch, Plainfield – registered nurse license (041-322491) reprimanded for failing
to maintain and exceeding professional boundaries with a patient.
Amy J. Boring, Iuka – licensed practical nurse license (043-053134) indefinitely
suspended for diversion and impairment.
Naomi Counter Ohiri, Chicago – licensed practical nurse license (043-059728) restored
to indefinite probation after defaulting on an Illinois educational loan and has now entered into a
repayment agreement.
Donna M. Edwards, Rockford – licensed practical nurse license (043-068558)
indefinitely suspended for a minimum of six months due to ingesting alcohol and being arrested
for DUI while her license was on probationary status.
Michael J. Manola, Springfield – licensed practical nurse license (043-087600) placed
on indefinite probation after defaulting on an Illinois educational loan and has now entered into a
repayment agreement.
Chad Woolford, Woodstock – licensed practical nurse license (043-103580) issued with
reprimand due to criminal conviction.
Kimberly Sawyer-McNight, Chicago – (unlicensed) ordered to cease and desist in the
unlicensed practice of registered nursing.

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Donna Koegel, Orland Park – pharmacist license (051-036276) placed on indefinite
probation for a minimum of five years for diverting controlled substances from her

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employer for self-use.
 

adairable

Member
Originally Posted by NVMYCJ
This is more true than you know. A lot of the treatment regime that ER's do, I've nick-named, "court room medicine."
I heard in Texas, I think, there is a med malpractice cap at about 200k? Supposably stops a lot of "nonsense" sueing. I could be mistaken on this tho
 

zman1

Active Member
Tell that to the mother that took her infant to the ER to be sent home with respiratory disorder (RSV), He became unresponsive and the mother took him to the other hospital. Where they did a spinal tap and found he had meengists. Was air lifted to STL childerens hospital. The baby is now blind, crippled and deaf in one ear. The hospital, ER doc and Nurses are being sued... How would a 200K cap take care of this blunder and the kid the rest of his life....
 

jennythebugg

Active Member
Originally Posted by NVMYCJ
Now hold up ya'll.....I've been doing ER medicine for nearly 13 years.
Ruaround: I you had a TRUE emergency, you'd probably be coming in by ambulance, vs through triage. Yes, hospitals are a business run operation, and if your triage category has you sitting back down in the waiting room,... yeah I think there's time to ask how you're paying for your ER visit.
Jenny: My apologies to you for having been treated that way. I'm sure your treatment wasn't directed to your personally. Here's what I mean.....
For example,....a ER provider just finishes coding a 6 month old for just under an hour. He/she pronounces the child and has to go tell the parents. After spending some time and tears with the family, he/she goes to the bathroom and refreshes himself and wipes his tears. He goes and picks up the next chart to go see, and it's a patient with an GOSH DARN HANG NAIL that came in by ambulance!!!!!!!
So, as you can see, there is a LARGE rollercoaster of emotion that occurs. And again, if you thought that the MD was thinking that you were inconveniencing him/her, I'm sorry.
I would love my job 100x's more if I took care of TRUE emergencies at least 20% of the time. Unfortunately, the Emergency Room has turned into an Emergency Clinic. Stuff that can be seen in a community clinic, fast track, or best yet your primary care provider.
i did come in by ambulance , but not for a hangnail hahaha i had an umbelical hernia that slipped back in at work ,fainted and fell down the catwalk stairs when it happened ,unfortunatly at the time i was unconscious and had no choice where i went. and he did act inconvenienced ,he talked to me like i was a child ,like i should have known i had a hernia and it was going to do that.and he asked me why i hadnt seen my physician about it yet ,i didnt even know i had it, i had stomach pain for a few days but it wasnt terrible then that happened ,im sure not all er doctors are as yucky as some of ours are ,but i am definatly not the only one in my town that dislikes that particular hospitals er staff alot of folks around here feel the same way , luckily there are 2 hospitals here in town if i have to i will tattoo the name of my ' preferred ER on my a$$ so that doesnt happen again
 
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huskychasrs

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Jenny we had that too in the Ohio Valley where I grew up.
I would've gone to Reynold's only if bleeding to death then just long enough to get enough blood to make it to OVMC in Wheeling.
 

nvmycj

Member
Originally Posted by jennythebugg
i did come in by ambulance , but not for a hangnail hahaha i had an umbelical hernia that slipped back in at work ,fainted and fell down the catwalk stairs when it happened ,unfortunatly at the time i was unconscious and had no choice where i went. and he did act inconvenienced ,he talked to me like i was a child ,like i should have known i had a hernia and it was going to do that.and he asked me why i hadnt seen my physician about it yet ,i didnt even know i had it, i had stomach pain for a few days but it wasnt terrible then that happened ,im sure not all er doctors are as yucky as some of ours are ,but i am definatly not the only one in my town that dislikes that particular hospitals er staff alot of folks around here feel the same way , luckily there are 2 hospitals here in town if i have to i will tattoo the name of my ' preferred ER on my a$$ so that doesnt happen again

Sorry I'm replying so late, but I've been out of the loop.
That's truly unfortunate, how you were treated. There is no excuse for being treated that way. I hope all went well with you!
 

nvmycj

Member
Originally Posted by zman1
Tell that to the mother that took her infant to the ER to be sent home with respiratory disorder (RSV), He became unresponsive and the mother took him to the other hospital. Where they did a spinal tap and found he had meengists. Was air lifted to STL childerens hospital. The baby is now blind, crippled and deaf in one ear. The hospital, ER doc and Nurses are being sued... How would a 200K cap take care of this blunder and the kid the rest of his life....
You guys are right..........in some states there have been caps set on court cases. And zman,....there is no amount of money that could help that family.
I, we, you, do not now the entirety of the case involved. From your brief description of the case, sounds like the MD dropped the ball on this one.
 

zman1

Active Member
Originally Posted by NVMYCJ
there is no amount of money that could help that family.

So are you saying putting an arbitrary 200k cap limit regardless of the severity of the case, is appropriate? For that matter "no amount of money" would take care of the NOW handicap child's additional needs for the next 7X years, so why pay anything? I think I get it....
 
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