Finding Nemo?

granny

granny

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WOW! SCSInet,
Extremely well said-in a few words(comparatively speaking) you have summed up our desires to be a part of the enchanting marine environment with vs our personal responsibilities to ALL living creatures.
My hat-if I had one-is off to you.
IN admiration and total agreement,
Granny
 
lazarus

lazarus

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If you do that, this hobby I believe is beneficial in general because it brings us a profound understanding of the aquatic world, allows us to learn and teach others, and that awareness helps to preseve these ecosystems that we take from to sustain it
well said, and the strongest argument for sustainment of this hobby, in spite of any perceptions of hypocrisy, which arise out of innocent ignorance.
 
saltysand

saltysand

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zanoshanox said:
First of all, AWESOME MOVIE! Secondly, I dont think its wrong to keep fish captive, becuase most of the fish in the hobbie are tank bred. I'm not sure if I would be fond of plucking fish directly out of the sea, but only because it lowers their survival rate...(getting them to beat, to shop, to aquarium...etc). Especially when they're used to the never fluctuating parameters of reef ocean water.[/QUOTE
I just want to say the lfs in my area has only wild caught fish . I try not to buy wild but i broke down and bought 2 wild caught yesterday. one percula clown that was huge because it was in the ocean 2 weeks ago. then i bought a sebae (clarki)clown that was wild. the wild ones look different then the tank bred . do i feel guilty of course. but i am upgrading to a 75-100 gallon tank. most people in my area only have 10 gallon salt tanks. so i say hes better off with me . at least in a few months he will hav e a lot more room . i know i can't buy all the wild caught fish up and swim them back to the indian ocean and release them so i do the best i can. do i love them yess.if i hadn't bought this fish he might end up in a 10 gallon tank being neglected. i know he wont' end up that way with me. :happyfish
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n_sarno

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Originally Posted by LedZep fan
I have Flow!!!!
actually you dont Deb/flow (one is the reflection in the glass of the aquarium) are three stripe damsels.
 
murph

murph

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The mistake that is being made here is the imparting of human emotion and reasoning capabilities upon the livestock (yes livestock; not pets) that we keep in our tanks.
This is a hobby; not the keeping of a pet. Vary much similar to the keeping of reptiles that also do not have the higher brain function to experience any complex emotions or reasoning capability like a cat or dog.
As for PETA types, who IMO also lack a certain degree of higher brain function and make most decisions based on emotion, just try to be polite and not laugh at them until they have left the room.
 
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mopardwh

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I think all of my tank mates are pets. I enjoy them very much, and they enjoy me.
at least when I feed them! But really, I take care of them to the best of my ability. In the wild their survival would be more of a challenge so I am doing them a favor.
 
samiam4663

samiam4663

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Originally Posted by SCSInet
I guess what I am saying in the end is that there is a right way and a wrong way to participate in this hobby. You don't need to be an environmentalist, but you shouldn't run a slaughterhouse either. You need to strike a balance in between based on a respect for the animals you keep, put those animals needs BEFORE your desire to have them and provide a proper environment for them. If you do that, this hobby I believe is beneficial in general because it brings us a profound understanding of the aquatic world, allows us to learn and teach others, and that awareness helps to preseve these ecosystems that we take from to sustain it.
Wow. I am speechless. If I could be so articulate, I would have said the same thing.
 
jessecnc

jessecnc

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On a lighter note, my 4 year old nephew makes me feel guilty everytime he sees my tank or watches Finding Nemo. I have a single clown in my tank, of course named nemo. The first thing my nephew asked me is where is his daddy, and how did his fin grow?
He then asked me if I am going to let Nemo go back to his dad in the ocean. Obviously the answer was no, which he did not like very much.
Now every time he watches the movie he turns to his Mom and says "uncle Jesse is a mean man that won't let Nemo go home". Aren't kids great!
 
sleasia

sleasia

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scsinet...Thank you for your thoughts...well stated and sums it up for alot of us....My point of view is also your point of view. so I will not mess around restating it.
 
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alix

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i dont because i make a point of buying only aquacultured fish or ones that friends NEED to get rid of for some reason, and i tell anyone who will listen about the advantages of tank raised fish to live caught ones.
 
disco bay jn

disco bay jn

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We are the most dominant (and ill fated) species on earth. We are reproducing at an unheard of rate. Over-population will be the end of us, along with the strain on the enviorment that it causes. We keep fish in the prisons of our own little living room for our pleasure. Lets not be blind and say we're doing it for the fish's sake. We are playing god in our own little water world. What about the people that keep birds in cages?? Can you imagine being able to fly, and be stuck in a little wire cage? Its the same type of feeling I get about keeping fish in an aquarium. They may live a long time, and be safe in your world, but their still in YOUR world! Your display prison! But I love my little display prison!! Damn its late! haha
 
royal gang

royal gang

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LOLOLOLLOOLOLOLOLOL, clownfish don't even know what the word "mom" or "dad" meens, they are ANIMALS, do everything by extinct, they don't think about that all they think is "EAT, SLEEP, REPRODUCE, PLAY VIDEO GAMES[couldn't resist]"
 
rbaldino

rbaldino

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I look at it this way... The more people involved in the hobby, the more we learn about the fish and their natural environment. The more we learn, the better we get at aquaculturing fish and invert species. When I first got into saltwater, there were hardly any tank bred species. In fact, it was big news when someone got a marine fish to breed in captivity. Now there are all sorts of tank bred fish, and aquacultured corals are becoming more common. Eventually, the hobby will probably be able to sustain itself with 100 percent aquacultured livestock. And if need be, we may be able to repopulate the oceans and reefs if that day ever comes. It all starts with learning and research, though, and the best way to do that is to keep some of these animals in captivity.
 
browniebuck

browniebuck

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Originally Posted by MilwaukeeM
I am just going to go ahead and make the assumption that everyone that visits these threads have seen the movie Finding Nemo? Since it deals directly with all the fish we love so much! My question is this, after seeing the movie has anyone felt guilty about owning an aquarium? I ask because my fiance just saw the movie for the first time last week and she said it made her feel bad that we were keeping fish captive??? Any thoughts on hwo to justify our addictive hobby as being the right thing to do???? :thinking:

Just keep swimming, just keep swimming, just keep swimmmmmmmming!!!!!
Love the movie, and NO, I don't feel guilty, as everyone else has said, most of these fish are captive bred. If I didn't know what I was doing and kept killing the fish I purchased, then I should feel guilty. If you know what you are doing you shouldn't feel guilty....unless you have BRUCE in your aquarium!!!
 
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saltfreak4

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Hey, what do ya have in your tank? I am curious sense most fish can't be aquacultured.
 
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