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sepulatian

sepulatian

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Originally Posted by kaliman33
http:///forum/post/2617856
i dont mean to be rude, but it seemed to me i was totally being ripped on, the LFS is helping me stock the tank, he even came over to install my UV, he said to trust him and if i have a problem he will take what ever back, i want a peaceful, happy, cool tank. It is hard to take everyone's advice especially after the fact. I will keep a close eye on everyone, I just talked to him again about the rosies, he says they are gut fed, and he and his other clients have been doing it for over 10 years no problems, if i only feeed them once a week live, hopefully the triggers wont get to aggressive
I appreciate the advice, just sometimes in e-mails the tone can be misunderstood,
I was not ripping into you by any means, and I do apologize if it seamed that way. The live feeders, as mentioned, cause fatty liver disease and organ failure. It does sound like your fish guy is a very nice person and goes out of his way to help. He may not be aware of what live feeders do, or maybe he is. We don't know that. He does, however, have a business to run. We have nothing to gain by just giving some advice. We are not trying to steer you wrong in any way
 
kaliman33

kaliman33

Member
I have had a reef tank for a while now, it has a UV, it is an insurance policy, 10 years ago (maybe 15) i my tank i had ozone, i was loosing fish until i used this, so when i set up my big tank it was'nt even a thought about using UV,
it keeps your tank safer,
I really dont think he is just selling me and he has had tanks for over 20 years, he has 13,000 worth in his house, we are friends i am not just a customer, so if he is steering me wrong he will deal with the ramafications, he swears that he and all his other customers have been doing this for many years with no problems, i have to trust someone, and atleast i can go face to face with him if there is a problem, he said he would take anything back i am not happy with. so until he proves wrong, we will see.
I do appreciate every ones advice will continue to ask and use it.
please dont take my comments as harsh.
Just an anaolgy: I teach martial arts (over 26 years) There are many ways to deal with a right cross, not 1 system as all the answers, you have to be open minded and try other things. If you are stuck in one system you are limited by that system.
 
srfisher17

srfisher17

Active Member
Originally Posted by kaliman33
http:///forum/post/2618709
I have had a reef tank for a while now, it has a UV, it is an insurance policy, 10 years ago (maybe 15) i my tank i had ozone, i was loosing fish until i used this, so when i set up my big tank it was'nt even a thought about using UV,
it keeps your tank safer,
I really dont think he is just selling me and he has had tanks for over 20 years, he has 13,000 worth in his house, we are friends i am not just a customer, so if he is steering me wrong he will deal with the ramafications, he swears that he and all his other customers have been doing this for many years with no problems, i have to trust someone, and atleast i can go face to face with him if there is a problem, he said he would take anything back i am not happy with. so until he proves wrong, we will see.
I do appreciate every ones advice will continue to ask and use it.
please dont take my comments as harsh.
Just an anaolgy: I teach martial arts (over 26 years) There are many ways to deal with a right cross, not 1 system as all the answers, you have to be open minded and try other things. If you are stuck in one system you are limited by that system.
Your friend is lucky to have such a loyal customer and I agree that he must be doing a lot of things right to survive in his business. I think the key to this hobby is getting as much info as you can and making the right choices. (at least the right ones most of the time). SW fishkeeping is changing so rapidly, in a positive way, that continual research is the only way to become the best possible aquarist. This forum, IMO, is simply an exchange of ideas, opinions, and experiences; and the whole idea of keeping a slice of a tropical reef in our living room is mind-boggling. SW fishkeeping just doesn't have a bible of set-in-stone rules. Most, if not all, SW hobbiests have made costly mistakes and learned from them; and I believe you will too. But I welcome you to this hobby; admire your principles and think you'll do very well! BTW, I think your description of UV as an insurance policy is a good one--too often they're looked at as a cure-all. I know where you're coming from, I use a piece of equipment that most folks scoff at, but love it.
 
hlcroghan

hlcroghan

Active Member
wow, after reading this whole thread, i want to go hide under a rock and forget all about heeping a sw fishtank. geez, there were times when i thought fw was hard. what in the world am i thinking?????
 
srfisher17

srfisher17

Active Member
Originally Posted by hlcroghan
http:///forum/post/2618929
wow, after reading this whole thread, i want to go hide under a rock and forget all about heeping a sw fishtank. geez, there were times when i thought fw was hard. what in the world am i thinking?????

I think.SW is still in its infancy, I'm sure early FW hobbiests felt the same way. SW is a much more complicated environment than FW; but "harder"? I just consider it more challenging and requiring more research. I really don't think keeping a bare-bones SW tank is all that much more difficult than FW. But, in SW, its possible to go miles beyond the "bare-bones" (think reef). I believe SW hobbiests also tend to be much more perfectionist in their pursuit of the hobby. "Alive" just isn't good enough for most of us. All just my opinion, of course.
 
el guapo

el guapo

Active Member
Originally Posted by srfisher17
http:///forum/post/2619038
I think.SW is still in its infancy, I'm sure early FW hobbiests felt the same way. SW is a much more complicated environment than FW; but "harder"? I just consider it more challenging and requiring more research. I really don't think keeping a bare-bones SW tank is all that much more difficult than FW. But, in SW, its possible to go miles beyond the "bare-bones" (think reef). I believe SW hobbiests also tend to be much more perfectionist in their pursuit of the hobby. "Alive" just isn't good enough for most of us. All just my opinion, of course.

You have made a good point here . I believe if you start out a SW bare bones and go from there it's not nearly as hard as trying to jump feet first in to a reef tank. You just have to take small steps and before you know it your an old pro at things and its just second nature to you . Just take the small steps as your ready and this hobby is fun and rewarding.
 
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