first time getting corals with usps

[dkfloyd]

you should have had it shipped priority Fedex. Anyone would have known to do that.
I am sorry, but my flags are up about this because you have been asked several times who it was that shipped it so others could take precautions, and yet all you have said is it is a fellow hobbyist. If I was shipping a package of corals valued at $650 I would package them so it did not leak, simple enough and I would not ship it USPS. Doesn't make sense. Why would you post something like this, get people all in a tissy about a large order that has been destroyed, and yet not let people know who to look out for, especially since the shipper is not willing to make-up any of it? That is someone I would not want to deal with and I would want others to know about. What gives? Did the package really cost $650 and if so don't you think that everyone here should know about who the shipper is that doesn't want to take any responsibility for it?
I couldn't agree more. Got awfully quiet too. "MOST" people that do this are willing to cooperate with each other and make things right. I sure wouldn't conceal the name of someone if this happened $650. later.

 

[flricordia]

I am not sure what to make of it myself. Does seem fishy but good to give the benifit of doubt though.
On the other hand I have dealt with many and many PO people and have always been treated with nothing but courtesy. I have even had them allow me to come around to the back docks when they were closed to pick up a package of live corals that would otherwise sit over the weekend. That I guess is what raised the flags in my head when I read this.
And I have recieved many a poor packaged box of corals that was wet with no problem and even had one delivered that was placed into a large plastic bag so it wouldn't loose anymore water.
I would agree that USPS is a risk though I have personally only had about 2 problems shipping out of more than I can count, (had most problems with UPS) but the personell, supervisors, carriers and counter personell have always been helpful as long as it did not cross paths with thier guidelines of operation.
And coralover23, I am not saying something is amiss with your post...just that something is amiss as to why you do not want to help others to avoid this if in fact it is as you say. That is what this sit eis all about, to help one another and I am sur ethere are many here that would be more than willing to help all they can in getting to the bottom of this bad deal.

 

[prime311]

Originally Posted by mscarpena
http:///forum/post/2616865
First off laws very greatly from state to state. Also every situation is different. You can not apply court TV to this situation. He needs to figure out who is at fault by packaging it wrong or by mishandling of the shipping company. If what you say is true I could ship you a package USPS could run it over with their truck and say its undeliverable. If you take their word for it and dont push the issue you think I would be responsible. If you sue some one in court you as the plantiff have to prove with in reason that the person you are sueing is negligent in some way. If you don't know how the package was shipped or handled by USPS how do you know who is negligant. It's all about whos fault it was. If the box is smashed to bits then it's the shipping companies fault. If the box is prestine and just wet the corals were not packaged properly. You need to demand pictures or to still have the package delivered to you. Also have them take a bunch of pictures and count the bags. Also pay attention to the size of the rocks. The one that was leaking needs to have special attention to it. Size and shape of rocks, how many bags, how many rubber bands, and anything else that will help you prove anythng. Good luck and sorry to hear about it. Also if the shipper made no garuntee then there is no garuntee.

I'm sorry but no, it doesnt matter what state you're in. Shipping is the responsibility of the person who sent it. Unless the shipper has it in writing that the buyer accepts responsibility for any problems during shipment then it is the sellers responsibility.

 

[phtby]

ok i wil start off saying that like everyone else said i think the name of the seller should be revealed.... i dont think it should intice him to react any different or change his mind on the refund.......but it would clear his name..
this is why we are all hobbiest and we buy and trade corals with one another....yes 650 is alot but i have seen it done..
With that being said lets look at this as you were the one with the coral that you were parting with... ok you have already spent the money on these corals and now you wanna trade them or sell them... so you post on here the corals that you have to trade or sell... someone buys them.. great..... Now you have to ship your corals witch all of us know is a chance..... and fyi none of the shiping companies will honor any insurance on the shiping of live good with out proper clearance to ship which you have to be a business and have a rep come to you...(have allready had this problem speaking from experience)... ok so now you have to ship the corals... you buy the box, the stryofoam, the heat pack, the bags, and the packing (popcorn,peanuts whatever)... you package it all up triple bag ,stro line the box, fill with popcorn add the heat pack seal the box add the label ect... ok you are done.. pending the weather is good and all parameters perfect..... so now you have to take the box to fedex,usps,upd,dhl where ever.... you hand the box to the company its dry, you know its packed right and you are certain that these living creatures that you spent your money on and money to feed and keep healthy are going to a new home where they can thrive and become bigger and better with time.......... done
ok 2 days later you get a call wheres is my coral.. you call the shipping company for the purchaser and its missing or in this case it is wet we cant ship (which i know for a fact is a crock of @$%# i have receive plenty of wet packages).... what are you to do... now they are telling your coral cant be shipped to this location because this reason and you know your stuff is going to die...... And in the same sentence they will tell you that they dont exept or honor live goods insurance without proper permission.... so now what
now you have the purchaser wanting his money back and its not your fault you followed the shipping process to a tee ......... what do you do?
To be honest i feel like this it would not be my fault and i would not think to refund your money because that would mean that i lose not only that money but the money i spent on the coral in the first place and all the time and food to make them thrive... I would try my best to resolve the situation and be willing to split the loss 50/50... because it is not my fault i did my part and it not your fault ..... so the way i look at this is u should get back 50% of the money if the guy has a heart and if he is a hobbiest then i am sure he will work something out....... maybe not money maybe more coral... but you have to understand it is not the shippers fault techincally he doesnt have to give you anything back.........
Listen lets clear this up for all the newbies and people who dont know this...
PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT LIVESTOCK BEING SHIPPED CAN NOT BE INSURED AND WILL NOT BE INSURED BECAUSE IF COMPANY POLICIES.. SO BE CAREFULL WHO YOU BUY FROM AND UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU BUY SOMETHING THERE IS CHANCE IT MIGHT NOT GET THERE..... ALSO PAYPAL DOES NOT HONOR ANYTHING ON THIS SITE ONLY E B A Y... SO TECHNICALLY PAYPAL IS NOT YOUR WAY OUT. KNOW WHO YOU ARE BUYING FROM ( THAT IS WHAT TRADER FEEDBACK IS FOR) AND ASK HOW THEY SHIP DONT RELY ON THEM TO KNOW ... I KNOW 8 OUT OF 10 PEOPLE DONT KNOW HOW TO PROPERLY SHIP CORALS.... DONT BE AFFRAID TO TELL THEM HOW YOU WANT IT SHIPPED OR PACKED.... JUST DONT BUY BECAUSE ITS CHEAP OR BECAUSE IT PRETTY DOT YOUR EYES AND CROSS YOUR TEES....
sorry so much just been there done that and alot more the $650...... so bro for what its worth do some research on who you buy coral from and feel comfortable with them before you click send on your paypal..... a bargain isnt always the bestway remember that....

 

[reefforbrains]

so who are we blackballing again?
Who is/was the shipper?
Im tossing out the BS card on this one. I dont see anything of actual value on the list. Normally someone that orders corals knows EXACTLY what they are getting.
Pardon if I sound like a jerk but I say troll based on the layout.
-RFB

 

[jeremy mct]

It almost seems like the tables are turned around and this is just a way to try to get ammunition. The name of the seller was never revealed. So maybe this was not a case of a shipment that didn't come, but the opposite. Did you try and ship something and are trying to get out of your obligation to refund the buyers money for your inability to package it correctly? Why els wouldn't you let the rest of us know who not to buy from? It is the shippers responcibilty. I took several business law courses for my degree and my sister in law is an attorney. So what is the rest of the story here? It just doesn't add up.

 

[johnnyd]

say who the shipper was from this site or shuve it! ill throw the BS card to cause this thread is retarded. save people the same future prob. by saying who shipped these corals to you

 

[mr.m]

I say if he not going to leave feedback or name the shipper this should be locked and deleted

Mark

 

[corallover23]

here is the name for freaking god sake she told me it was slander and if i posted the name she would press charges julie there happy. this was my first time getting a shipment and im very new to the hobby i dont look at everyone as crooked but i guess i will start. as for the people that said this is bs bite me ! i just want to warm people on here that usps is crazzy and be carefull.
and whoever called me a troll your an elf!

 

[blaze98]

Sorry buddy, but it is not slander to post the name of a person that tried to wrong you, posting her full name and address is illegal of course

But we don't want to get screwed out of any money by "Julie"
I have personally shipped corals that did not make it through either a mistake I made (shipping a pointy frag plug to MSCARPENA causing the bag to leak) the shipping company's (We just LOST it). I always offer either a refund or another coral as a replacement and I take my issue up with the shipping company. I am not in this hobby to make money, I want to enjoy it just like everyone else.
Also I never ship USPS, too many horror stories about shipments getting delayed or lost. I usually ship with UPS, they aren't too horrible although they have their moments.

 

[nacl freak]

Originally Posted by corallover23
http:///forum/post/2616409
i will never buy anything and ship it with usps. i placed my order on the 19th and was to be next day , well today is the 21st and still no corals , i called my post office with the numbers for tracking, well i was just informed that there was a mega leak that started and they have no clue where its at! the package not the leak. it makes me soooooooooooooooooooo sick that the thought of the corals not making it.......

has anyone had this problem?
a list of some of the corals
will any of these make it?
7inch live rock plastered with superman mushrooms
1 frog spawn
1 xxl sun coral
10+ green mushrooms
feather dusters
1 big maxima clam
thats all the ones i can remember i will never ship with usps

Sorry ,I know what an terrible ordeal this has been for you. Not only are you out of $,but also the time and energy of fighting with USPS.

I too have had BAD experiences with USPS. TWO DAY DELIVERY TAKING FOUR FULL DAYS. I also learned a hard lession

it is worth my initial investment to go UPS or FEDX.

 

[ajilon]

Originally Posted by corallover23
http:///forum/post/2617477
here is the name for freaking god sake she told me it was slander and if i posted the name she would press charges julie there happy. this was my first time getting a shipment and im very new to the hobby i dont look at everyone as crooked but i guess i will start. as for the people that said this is bs bite me ! i just want to warm people on here that usps is crazzy and be carefull.
and whoever called me a troll your an elf!

I'm sorry. I know you're angry, but this response really reflects not only your age, but your level of maturity. These people are trying to do nothing more than help you and protect other members on this site. Attacking them is not going to benefit you in any way. In fact, it's going to hurt you situation even more.
Have you contacted "Julie" regarding the corals? "Julie's screen name would be a little more helpful here. What was her position on it? Obviously, if the box never left the drop off location, it wasn't packaged properly.
However, that's alot of coral to purchase at one time. Stocking you tank too quickly can push your parameters out of whack. In the future, I'd suggest slowing down just a little. Save your big orders for companies and people that guarantee live delivery.

 

[dragonzim]

Originally Posted by corallover23
http:///forum/post/2617477
here is the name for freaking god sake she told me it was slander and if i posted the name she would press charges julie there happy. this was my first time getting a shipment and im very new to the hobby i dont look at everyone as crooked but i guess i will start. as for the people that said this is bs bite me ! i just want to warm people on here that usps is crazzy and be carefull.
and whoever called me a troll your an elf!
You still never answered the question of HOW DID YOU PAY FOR THIS?!?!

 

[05xrunner]

I personally rather ship USPS over Fedex or UPS ANYDAY..I cant stand the other 2..anytime I EVER shipped with them I have had nothing but problems. The leak could have been because of poor shipper packing. maybe the leak was enough for teh box to fall totally apart and now they dont have an ability to delivery it for no address. buying online is always a gamble and thats why I gave up shipping stuff anymore

 

[grabbitt]

Originally Posted by corallover23
http:///forum/post/2617477
here is the name for freaking god sake she told me it was slander and if i posted the name she would press charges julie there happy. this was my first time getting a shipment and im very new to the hobby i dont look at everyone as crooked but i guess i will start. as for the people that said this is bs bite me ! i just want to warm people on here that usps is crazzy and be carefull.
and whoever called me a troll your an elf!
That is not in the least bit slander. That just confirms that she is trying to cover her own @$$... that, and she's an idiot.
Did you pay through paypal, personal check or money order?

 

[shaun larlee]

will you pm me the persons screen name because i am also buying a lot over the next few months and i would like to avoid her. I received a shipment today from someone on here that was PERFECT, the zoos i ordered were open inside 20 minutes in my tank. There are great sellers out there. But please atleast warn a fellow starter about a potential bad seller so the rest of us dont lose money. Its not slander, and i dont wanna buy from a bad seller.

 

[flricordia]

Originally Posted by corallover23
http:///forum/post/2617477
here is the name for freaking god sake she told me it was slander and if i posted the name she would press charges julie there happy. this was my first time getting a shipment and im very new to the hobby i dont look at everyone as crooked but i guess i will start. as for the people that said this is bs bite me ! i just want to warm people on here that usps is crazzy and be carefull.
and whoever called me a troll your an elf!
Personally I would rather be a troll than an elf. Trolls get to live under bridges and eat unwary people that happen along while elves with their pale white skin sit inside of tree hollows baking stupid cookies all day. What's up with that?

 

[shaun larlee]

 

[corallover23]

i just thought it was odd calling me a troll so i just decided to call them an elf is all

 

[mscarpena]

Originally Posted by blaze98
http:///forum/post/2617483
Sorry buddy, but it is not slander to post the name of a person that tried to wrong you, posting her full name and address is illegal of course

But we don't want to get screwed out of any money by "Julie"
I have personally shipped corals that did not make it through either a mistake I made (shipping a pointy frag plug to MSCARPENA causing the bag to leak) the shipping company's (We just LOST it). I always offer either a refund or another coral as a replacement and I take my issue up with the shipping company. I am not in this hobby to make money, I want to enjoy it just like everyone else.
Also I never ship USPS, too many horror stories about shipments getting delayed or lost. I usually ship with UPS, they aren't too horrible although they have their moments.
By the way all corals are doing great and Blaze98 is an excellent seller. If there is an issue he will take care of you.
Also the only time it is slander is if what you are saying about the person is untrue. If any time you said something negative was slander the better business bureau and many other places would get sued. It called consumer rights. You have the right to know about services rendered from others.