fish for 37g

[ivy2dw7]

I'll be able to start buying my fish soon, tank is almost done cycling. I currently have about 20 pounds of live rock and about 16 pounds of lace rock, plus 11 snails and 10 hermit crabs. I'm also planning on getting 3 peppermint shrimp, 2 cleaner shrimp and 1-2 serpent stars. Here's what I'm thinking for fish, buying in this order:
1 royal gramma
2 percula clowns
1 cleaner wrasse - red sea (if I can find it locally)
1 Eibli angel
What do you think?

 

[snipe]

I like the
1 royal gramma
2 percula clowns
But the Cleaner wrasse "according to research" is difficult
Minimum Tank Size: 50 gallons
Care Level: Difficult
Max. Size In Aquarium: Up to 4"
Color Form: Black, Silver, White
Temperament: Peaceful
Reef Compatible: Yes
Diet: Carnivore
In an aquarium 50 gallons or larger, it needs to be kept with a large number of community fish which it can clean and thus obtain food. It "MAY" accept substitute foods such as chopped seafoods, brine shrimp, and live black worms. It should be fed at least three times daily. This species of Cleaner Wrasse is more hardy than the others, but is still difficult to feed and maintain, and should only be kept by experienced aquarists.
I couldnt find an eibli angle only a "tang"
Minimum Tank Size: 70 gallons
Care Level: Moderate
Max. Size In Aquarium: Up to 7"
Color Form: Black, Yellow, Orange
Temperament: Semi-aggressive
Reef Compatible: Yes
Diet: Herbivore
As you see it needs 70 gallons.
70-gallon or larger aquarium is necessary to provide plenty of swimming room. It is extremely aggressive towards other Tangs or Surgeonfish, especially those similar in form and color, and should be the only one in the tank except for in very large systems. Introduce all different species of tangs at one time if more than one is to be maintained in the same aquarium.
Although Tangs will eat meaty foods along with the other fish in the aquarium, it is important that they are offered plenty of marine based seaweed and algae. This will strengthen their immune system, reduce aggression and improve their overall health. Offer dried seaweed tied to a rock or use a lettuce clip, and feed at least 3 times per week. Sea Veggies, Seaweed Salad and Ocean Nutrition are all ideal products and are very easy to use.

 

[ivy2dw7]

If you look on this site, they have Eibli Angels. Here's what it mainly says about them:
These fish do very well in aquariums and prefer lots of rockwork to feel comfortable. The Eibli Angel should be kept in a tank of 30 gallons or larger, so it'll have ample room to roam. They will spend most of their day grazing algae that grows on live rock.
Size: 2-3 inches
Care Level: Easy
Temperament: Peaceful
Reef Safe: Yes
Diet: Greens, Flake, Pellet
Origin: Indian Ocean
Acclimation Time: 3+ hours

 

[snipe]

He seems to be a dwarf I dont know anything about him but I know "just about" all the dwarf angles need 30 gallons or more.

 

[meadbhb]

Hiya,
I probably have the very same tank. The clowns and royal gramma will do fine, but I think you should only add one of the others. I don't know much about either of them, but you could probably go with a dwarf angel.
Meadbhb

 

[jsb]

I have a 37 gal, but it's not a cube. It has a 17x30 foot print. Anyway, I have a Cardinal, two Clowns, a Coral Beauty, and a Watchman Goby. I did get a consensus before I bought them though. I won't be adding any more. The Coral Beauty is a dwarf, and loves to swim through the rock work. I've made several different tunnel systems with in my rock, and he swims all through it. It's very cool. The Cardinal just hangs out around a couple of ledges, and the clowns dance around in any given area. The watchman dug himself a cave under one of my lower rocks, and mainly guards the area. They seem to all get along great.
I've heard that the Grammas can be mildly aggressive. Mild or not, aggressiveness isn't allowed in my tank. I tried Mildly aggressive, but was told the spotted puffer was friendly. Aggressive he was, and he loved to graze on my clowns. My point to that is be careful, it's a toss up when it comes to midly aggressive.

 

[edwar050]

I am not a huge fan of royal grammas in smaller tanks as well, they can be territorial and could pick on the clowns. I would def have to say no to the cleaner wrasse. They usually eat very little flake food and eat parasites off fish. IMAO they would only reallly thrive and live in a very large "like 150 gallon" established tank. Just my 2 cents. What about a watchman goby, bicolor blenny or black sailfin blenny?
Best of luck to you

 

[rubberduck]

NO CLEANER

 

[boyo]

I a cleaner wrasse for 2 years in my 75 with my tangs, it would eat flake food as well as groom the other fish, he jumped out of my tank one night:nope: I purchased another one but it didn't live very long. i think I was very lucky to have the first one for so long.

 

[edwar050]

true that true that sad story its ashame- there are sites dedicated to cleaner wrasses and improper harvesting. Its a concern that they are declining in #'s. The problem with that is that they clean many fish naturally and there is concern that many more parasites and fish diseases will arise becasue of a lack of there population. I found the article very cool and informative.

 

[ivy2dw7]

I can understand the whole ordeal with the cleaner wrasse. I was just looking on this site one night at the fish and found the Red Sea cleaner wrasse to be beautiful, nice blue color. I thought that with that, the perculas, royal gramma, and an eibli angel, that I would have a very nice color scheme going on in the tank. Can you think of any other blue fish that would work well with those 4 as tank mates in a 37g? I would really enjoy having something blue in the tank.

 

[ivy2dw7]

What about just 1 blue reef chromis? I know they work well in groups but would it be fine just by itself with the other 4 fish?

 

[snipe]

I thought bolth the green reef chromis and the blue reef chromis should be kept in schools of 3 or more. That is just what I heard I could be wrong.

 

[ivy2dw7]

Well, I don't think my tank could handle 7 fish, even if the extra 2 are just chromis. This site says they do ok singly so I don't know. Any other opinions?

 

[edwar050]

you wanted a cleaner wrasse, what about a neon goby, I have seen them in really large tanks doing the same thing, I think they would be a great addition to an established reef.

 

[snipe]

Well how many inches would you have without the chromis?

 

[edwar050]

i dont think you should put 7 in a 37, you know what your talking about. I have 7 right now in a 55 and five of those are 1 inch juviniles. 3 small green chromis, two black chromis, one coral beauty, one yellow tail damsel. I will be switching the 2 black chromis over, giving the yellow tail away, getting two clowns like you. Then either a black sailfin blenny, watchman goby, or neon goby, bc they are all small and reef safe. :joy:
dont know if that helps, did you get the royal gramma, I would think like I said above they would not be a great canidate for a 37 if your not going semi agressive i.e. clowns. Clowns are hardy "damsel family" although I think many have a hard time being acclimated. If you decide to go with the gramma i would add a really small one last. I had one in my 55, mean

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[ivy2dw7]

I haven't bought any fish yet, still waiting for someone to say that having 1 blue reef chromis is ok. If I go with the chromis, I'll get that first, then the 2 percs, then probably the gramma then the dwarf angel. And I would be getting all young fish so I can watch them all grow. I thought about getting a goby but I didn't see any on this site at least that are blue blue, just a really really dark blue/yellow. I really want a very blue fish. Kind of how all the other fish on my list are very vibrant colors. I'm still up for suggestions, especially if everyone agrees chromis do better in groups.

 

[snipe]

If you only want one that is "blue" get a yellow tail blue damsle. These are one of the nicer damsles and only get to an inch or 2 when adult size. They are bright neon blue when the lights are on and the only part that is yellow is the tail very pretty fish I have one. You can find him in the photgraphy section under " I finnaly got my aqua scaping done"

 

[rubberduck]

Originally posted by boyo
I a cleaner wrasse for 2 years in my 75 with my tangs, it would eat flake food as well as groom the other fish, he jumped out of my tank one night:nope: I purchased another one but it didn't live very long. i think I was very lucky to have the first one for so long.
THEY ARE THE EQIVALENT OF AN MORISH IDOL