I agree with arjayl. they can be ok to buy from, as long as you get them shortly after they come in to the store. I have actually been amazed sometimes at how good some of the fish look in their tanks. Then, several weeks later, I see the same fish and it looks terrible. I would buy a fish from ***** because I feel like I am saving the fish's life. Buy it while it is healthy before it gets sick in the tank. Of course, each ***** is different, I think mine is a pretty good one, I haven't seen any ich or other parasites there, just cramped living conditions.