fish, inverts, or corals staight from the sea

[groupergenius]

http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/habitat/ead...ntal090902.pdf
www.caribbeanfmc.com/coral fmp/CO FMP.PDF
www3.mpa.gov/mpa_lib/org_and_institutions.aspx
Maybe these can help???

 

[netopr]

so in other words I cant
Law 147 (July 1999), the Coral Conservation Law, suspended
ornamental fish collecting and transporting. There is an issue with theinterpretation of the word “organism”. Since the word “fish” was notexplicitly used in the language of Law 147, some collectors claim that “organisms” do not include fish and that they are being unjustly discriminated against.

 

[groupergenius]

Originally Posted by Netopr
so in other words I cant
Law 147 (July 1999), the Coral Conservation Law, suspended
ornamental fish collecting and transporting. There is an issue with theinterpretation of the word “organism”. Since the word “fish” was notexplicitly used in the language of Law 147, some collectors claim that “organisms” do not include fish and that they are being unjustly discriminated against.
Keep searching. Sounds like that excerpt might be for commercial collectors. Plus it is from 1999.
I couldn't check too much for you because PDF's don't work too good on my computer.

 

[ophiura]

I would say in general the awareness, concern and restrictions are probably becoming tighter and tighter.
I would contact the fish and game people, wildlife people...possibly even dive shops may have an idea!

 

[captain nemo]

I lived in the florida keys in the early '90's and I had a 240 gal tank that I could fill and do water changes from the ocean. Thats the way to do it if you can. I found having a UV filter was a good idea along with your standard filter setup. (If still legal) At that time you could catch you own fish, except undersized grouper, lobsters, etc. Reef fish were ok. There were several commerical catchers in Marathon. Call your local marine patrol for regs. I would use a clear net, SLURP GUNS are so so. It's going to be harder than you think. Remember DO NOT DESTORY THE CORALS. Watch where you put your hands, as some corals can die if you disturb them. I would also suggest having a live well to keep the water aerated for your fish. I never mixed store bought with wild as I never needed to buy any. BOY, do I envy you. I miss the diving.......... Good Luck.......

 

[wingzfan]

Originally Posted by Dreamer44
Killed right away....ahhh..maybe NOT....they put them in a tank thats waaaaaaaaaay too small for them, put big rubber bands on their claws so they cant defend themselves, and keep them in water that im sure is not what their used to, sitting in a grocery store waiting for people to buy them, so they can then take them home, and then they kill them and eat them... takes a long time...!
Personally, I dont eat sea food...
If you have the paperwork and the knowlege, then I say go for it, dont break any law and make sure you educate yourself before harvesting anything.
Lori
Doesn't take that long

 

[wingzfan]

Originally Posted by kclester
do you not think that your CAPTIVE bread fish still dont have there wild nature ? If a fish you harvest from the sea will suffer in a tank than so will your Captive breed fish. They will always have their wild nature so if a WILD fish suffers so will yours you currently have in your tank
Yes... they have instincts... but captive bred fish have never known what the ocean's like.

 

[kclester]

lol ok.....but im just saying if its legal than i see nothing wrong with it....go for it buddy, i would if i had the chance

 

[netopr]

I will, thanks

 

[grubsnaek]

Originally Posted by kclester
if had had a pack of hungrey tigers chaseing me every second of my life i would be quite happy to live in a shed......
thats to funny

 

[wattsupdoc]

Originally Posted by KwikNezy1
Here we go again. There are so many threads about harvesting items from the sea. Unless you have the permits ( which are very expensive ). It is not worth paying huge fines. There was a discussion that i was just in about harvesting something as simple as water from the ocean. We must keep in mind some things, the more we harvest from the ocean, the more likely ceartain things will go extinct. that is why almost every item that most of us have in our tanks is captive raised. including rock. I honestly dont think it is a good idea for these practices.. IMO. Now if you have the money for the permits, then feel free, atleast everybody knows that you know the laws, and have the proper equipment for transport. You will know when you have scavenged anough, heck everything. Now for myself, i wouldnt know my a$$ from a hole in the ground when it came to harvesting items directly from the sea.
Well I know when I was in Florida in June, all you needed was a fishing license to catch ornamental fish....Ummmm real exensive,like 16 bucks. Geeez when people post something and dont even have a clue.

 

[groupergenius]

Originally Posted by wingzfan
Yes... they have instincts... but captive bred fish have never known what the ocean's like.
We are talking about fish, right??

 

[kclester]

yea....lol

 

[kwiknezy1]

Originally Posted by wattsupdoc
Well I know when I was in Florida in June, all you needed was a fishing license to catch ornamental fish....Ummmm real exensive,like 16 bucks. Geeez when people post something and dont even have a clue.

Rock, & corals you moron.. Not fish..

 

[wattsupdoc]

Your entire post there was a general reply I have heard time and time again to similar questions. It had little truth in it, I mean really "most things in our tanks are captive bread". I hope the rock that I have is, other than that, not much else is. I wont resort to calling names.

 

[browniebuck]

Originally Posted by KwikNezy1
Rock, & corals you moron.. Not fish..
Your opinion just went out the window, as I am sure that most people now think that you are, like 8 years old.
This is a forum to help questions get answered as well as raise awareness, if people have questions, they shouldn't have to be afraid of someone calling them a "moron" for that question or that opinion for those responding.
Grow up!

 

[ophiura]

I agree. Please avoid the name calling - it won't be tolerated.
Invariably it does little except reflect poorly on the person doing it

 

[groupergenius]

Originally Posted by KwikNezy1
Rock, & corals you moron.. Not fish..

I'm lost here. Are you saying it's OK to take rock and corals but not fish?

 

[ophiura]

No, I believe it was that a permit to take rocks and corals is likely far more expensive (and typically not covered by) a fishing permit.

 

[groupergenius]

Originally Posted by ophiura
No, I believe it was that a permit to take rocks and corals is likely far more expensive (and typically not covered by) a fishing permit.
Oh, I agree. Actually there are only a handful of folks down here who have permits to "farm" liverock. They place dead rock in their allotted space till it becomes live rock.