flame angel with ick

[saltysand]

I just bought a flame angel and 2 little tiny yellow tailed damsels and a cleaner shrimp last night at lfs. All looked healthy. Now my flame has very light almost unnoticable white spots aka ick. I have read a lot of info and am confused on what to do? I didn't quarentine (I know bad idea) because no fish had been in the tank for about 4 months just hermits and nassarious snails. someone please let me know what to do. I have malachite green, tea tree oil and I have read about hyposalinity, and they lfs said the cleaner shrimp would take care of it but the angel won't go near the cleaner. what should i do step by step please i am new to ick.

 

[jesses89]

the cleaner wont take care of the ich. the most it will do is pick off a few of the parasites here and there, but rid your tank of ich it will not.

 

[saltysand]

also how often is ick actually cured? I am alittle bit in denial that anything can besaved after previous experience with clown fish disease .oh and btw water perameters is amm 0 nitrates0 nitrites 0 ph 8.2 , temp 78 degrees. I guess this came from stress of moving the fish?

 

[saltysand]

Originally Posted by Jesses89
the cleaner wont take care of the ich. the most it will do is pick off a few of the parasites here and there, but rid your tank of ich it will not.

well thanks for that jesse but do you have any advice on what I SHOULD DO?

 

[saltysand]

anyone?

 

[sepulatian]

Ich is a parasite and has to be removed from the system. Saltysand, do you have LR, LS, inverts? I assume you do not have a cycled QT tank.

 

[pitbullfan]

I used Kordon Ich Attack in my 29 gallon a couple of weeks ago to cure a sixline wrasse and a rusty angel.The wrasse introduced it to my tank ( i dont have a qt tank), you will have to remove the carbon from your filter if you have any.I have a emerald crab,arrow crab, assorted hermits, and some snails and all are well

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[saltysand]

no my quarantine tank is not cycled. Can I use the water from my display ?
yes I have shrimp crabs and snails. also should I put my damsels in quarantine , they are showing no signs YET??????

 

[saltysand]

Originally Posted by PitbullFan
I used Kordon Ich Attack in my 29 gallon a couple of weeks ago to cure a sixline wrasse and a rusty angel.The wrasse introduced it to my tank ( i dont have a qt tank), you will have to remove the carbon from your filter if you have any.I have a emerald crab,arrow crab, assorted hermits, and some snails and all are well

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did it get rid of the ick?

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by saltysand
did it get rid of the ick?
First, NO reef safe or invert-safe med will kill ick. Ich is an invert. You CANNOT kill one invert without killing them all!!!! Forget meds.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by saltysand
no my quarantine tank is not cycled. Can I use the water from my display ?
yes I have shrimp crabs and snails. also should I put my damsels in quarantine , they are showing no signs YET??????
What do you have as far as LR, LS and inverts? List amount of pounds for each and all of your inverts please.

 

[saltysand]

I have 29 gallon tanks , 20 pds lr, 2 inch live sand , 2 yellow tailed damsels, 1 flame angels, temp 78 , everything else 0 , ph 8.2, 4 nassarious snails, 2 blue leg hermits, 1 cleaner shrimp , 4 bumble bee snails :help:

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by saltysand
I have 29 gallon tanks , 20 pds lr, 2 inch live sand , 2 yellow tailed damsels, 1 flame angels, temp 78 , everything else 0 , ph 8.2, 4 nassarious snails, 2 blue leg hermits, 1 cleaner shrimp , 4 bumble bee snails :help:
Ok, well you have less of a problem than some people on here. The easiest thing to do is get a rubbermaid tub, fill it with tank water, pull out your rocks, sand and inverts. Add a powerhead and a heater. Hypo the main tank.

 

[saltysand]

how long can the inverts stay without filtration? also what about the live sand ? also wouldn't that be the same as putting them into the quarantine tank with tank water?btw thanks so much for your help.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by saltysand
how long can the inverts stay without filtration? also what about the live sand ? also wouldn't that be the same as putting them into the quarantine tank with tank water?btw thanks so much for your help.
The tub would need a small HOB filter. The difference between moving your rocks, sand, and inverts into a tub and you moving the fish, is biological filtration. Fish put a heavy bioload on an uncycled tank. Rocks and sand are your biological filter and inverts pose little to no waste. They will be very comfortable in a tub for several weeks. Your fish, on the other hand, produce waste and will not be too healthy in a cycling qt tank.

 

[pitbullfan]

Yes, the ich is gone and everything survived.

 

[sepulatian]

Originally Posted by PitbullFan
Yes, the ich is gone and everything survived.
Don't count on it. I will say it again. Ich is an invert. You CANNOT kill one invert without killing them all (crabs, snails, shrimp, ect.) This was a temporary fix.

 

[pitbullfan]

I have used Ick Attack on the same fish twice in two years ( Rusty Angel ) in the same tank with invertebrates. It did not come back, it was introduced by two different fish about a year apart.I'm not trying to argue, I'm just speaking from my own experience. I've used it, it worked for me.