Flat worms what do they look like??

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wildmike

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I have heard of flat worms but I have not seen a picture of one. I have these small brown things in my tank. They are small like a pod but are brown. They are also flat and kinda look like a snail with no shell. I can see a mouth on them and I only see them at night on the glass. What are these guyes and are they good or bad, I really hope they are good to have as I have quite a few of them!!!
Thanks
Mike
 

nacl-h2o

Active Member
this is what they lok like given minor color variations. They come in red, orange, yellow, green, and brown and various mixtures of these.
 
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wildmike

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Thats what I have!!! Are they good or bad?? Thanks for the picture!!!!
 
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wildmike

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The ones I have are a dark brown. I only have a few as of right now. Should I be worried?? I have not seen them on anything but the glass. Thanks for the info!!!
Mike
 

jonthefb

Active Member
the commonj red and brown ones arent harmful in the sense that they dont actually feed on anyhting in our tanks, llike corals and such, however as sammy stated they can grow to plague proportions. if you let them grow to plague proportions and then for some reason they have a mass die off or you treat the tank with someting to kill them and they all die, they release a nasty toxin, that in little amounts doesnt hurt, but if a mass die of occured...can wipe out all of your fish, possibly some corals. The owner of another lfs i used to work at had them in his home tank, and we found a treatment for them in the marine atlas vol. 1 by helmut debelius that is an actual flatworm treatemnt for horses, but when used in small quantities in reef tanks, destroyes the populations immediately. Anyway, he treated his tank with this stuff, and as soon as it hit the water his tank turned yellow from all of these flatworms dying at once. the toxins they released killed all of his fish, and a couple of corals, but the medication did what it was supposed to do, he just didnt think he ahd that many worms!
anyhow, the best method of removal, IME has always been a sixline wrasse, or an arrow crab. in times where i have seen a few in the tank, these guys readily chowed them up!
good luck
jon
 

jonthefb

Active Member
i think that they do actually reproduce from being cut, but im not sure, id have to chek on it!
good luck
jon
 

bang guy

Moderator
cutting them does result in two, there is a limit as to how many pieces though (unlike Aiptasia).
The critter pictured is Convolutriloba sp. a true flatworm. These critters are actually not Planaria as the common name would indicate.
 

bang guy

Moderator

Originally posted by sammystingray
Convolutriloba sp are planaria.............aren't they?:confused:

No, they are Acoel flatworms. There is a very common misconception that Planaria = Flatworms.
I've always found it humerous that "Red Planaria" are neither Red, nor Planaria ;)
Another Note, with their perfectly formed bodies for hosting Zooxanthellae and mildly poisonous body fluids a dozen of these flatworms can become 10,000 in less than 2 weeks.
 

nacl-h2o

Active Member
Grouperhead
No, back in the early days I was trying to find an ID on flat worms in my tank and someone from the NC frag traders group sent that pic to me to help me ID them. I got lucky, that was what I had, but the tank was newly cycled and I just poured a little ammo in it to recycle it. The second cycle lasted 2 weeks and killed them all. Mine had come in on some LS I had added to seed my post cycled tank with pods and worms. They can also come in on LR or the rock corals are attached to.
I've been hearing a lot of good things about a new flat worm killer called Flat Worm Stop, that gets rid of them. Get rid of them before there numbers get so high that their toxin release after death will cause tank problems.
Planaria actualy don't look anything like the pic. And planaria are actualy FW carnavors. And most are harmless. There is a red planaria in FW that can cause problems, but not in tanks, more like ponds.
 
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