Foam Rock Wall

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jstdv8

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I'm not a big fan of the look of the rock you used, but overall it looks alot better than most ive seen. Id be happy to have that on my back wall of my tank, thats for sure!
 

flower

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Originally Posted by Jstdv8 http:///forum/thread/382401/foam-rock-wall/60#post_3338682
I'm not a big fan of the look of the rock you used, but overall it looks alot better than most ive seen. Id be happy to have that on my back wall of my tank, thats for sure!

Thank you. I'm kind of hoping it looks better wet. I washed a piece and it turned a pretty tan, much better looking than the bone look it has right now. Then when coraline begines to show up (in a few years) it should look really good. Time, it all takes time.
 

acrylic51

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Very nice job!!!! I think that's the area I'm concerned more with when considering it for my build is the original look??? Would it be possible to make the wall removable if I didn't care for it? A lot of what I have read says to seal all access off so nothing can get behind???
 

flower

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It can be done outside the tank but floating is an issue...The tank I am experimenting on is no big deal if I wreak it. So you might want to practice on something, like a cardboard box and garbage rocks ...something along those lines.
 
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jstdv8

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Shawn,
The ones that are removeable are build in 2-3 interlocking pieces. totally doable.
 

acrylic51

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Cool.... I had seen on the big thread on the other forum about doing the walls in sections, but in my case not totally sure I will/would like the look, and with the epoxy bonding on my build wouldn't/don't want to go months later and scrape silicone with a razor blade. What I had considered doing to make the panel/panels removable would be to drill holes and embed nylon rods to the back of the tank, and at the same time drill the foam wall panels to allow the rod to slip onto and secure to the tank walls with a nylon washer and bolt. Do you guys think that would be feasible?
 

flower

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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///forum/thread/382401/foam-rock-wall/60#post_3339179
Cool.... I had seen on the big thread on the other forum about doing the walls in sections, but in my case not totally sure I will/would like the look, and with the epoxy bonding on my build wouldn't/don't want to go months later and scrape silicone with a razor blade. What I had considered doing to make the panel/panels removable would be to drill holes and embed nylon rods to the back of the tank, and at the same time drill the foam wall panels to allow the rod to slip onto and secure to the tank walls with a nylon washer and bolt. Do you guys think that would be feasible?
Wow! You can do that?
If it doesn't leak, that would be fantatic! (I hope it posts his time around)
The foam and rock if not attached when you create it, it has a tendency to warp so you will have to really watch for that. Maybe if you made the rock wall on a very tight fitting plastic covered board, so after it is totally dry peel away the plastic. Just a thought..Oh and don’t make the edges to match in a line..make it like a puzzle to look more natural.
 

al&burke

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Do you think there might be a problem with bad stuff getting behind the rock wall and causing problems?
 

acrylic51

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The tank can easily be drilled and then the nylon rod embed into some thickened epoxy, and not a chance of a leak. I was considering using egg crate as my plastic backing, an attaching the rock by zip tie, and before foaming taping the back of the egg crate off with packing tape, and securing the structure also down to a flat surface to keep the panel flat while it hardens, and the detach is from the framing board, and at which time I could remove the packing take keeping cleanup of the back side to a minimum and flat. Before trimming and fillin in with sand is when I'd drill the panel to mate up to the nylon rods, and would have to work on hiding the washer an nuts...
 

flower

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No, the egg crate will still warp right along with the foam and then harden that way. Use the egg crate absolutely... but place it on a plastic covered board and peel the plastic after the whole thing hardens.
 

acrylic51

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Quote:Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///forum/thread/382401/foam-rock-wall/60#post_3339186
Do you think there might be a problem with bad stuff getting behind the rock wall and causing problems?
Not sure Al.... The other article I read said about snails and junk getting behind it. The possibility of them getting behind it an dying, unearth food and such wool just lay decaying back there creating nitrates. I'm not a fan of snails and hermits , so I could probably rule them out, and I'm not a heavy feeder, but things have a way of traveling where you don't want them.
 

al&burke

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Maybe with the bolt on wall, which I think is a great idea Shawn, you could put some cotton baton around the edges then bolt it down, should keep unwanteds out, IDK thinking out load.
 

spanko

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Have seen some really nicely built ones. Especially where the builder not only makes the wall but also includes some outcroppings with tunnels, caves, overhangs etc. These were done in multiple pieces also. Fit together like interlocking puzzle pcs. I'll take some time to look for some later.
On the problem of things getting behind your really only have to seal the perimeter with silicone. If you have built the wall correctly all of the openings in between rockwork will be filled with the foam. Then if you do want to remove at some later date the only silicone scraping is around the perimeter, not so bad me thinks.
Personal taste as with everything else. If I were to have a larger tank my choice would not be a wall but a large long valley in between two rock structures. But I digress.
 

2quills

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Currious if the silicone would bond to the epoxy like it does glass or would it be more like trying to bond it to acrylic. If that's the case than it probably wouldn't be too terribly tough to remove at all. But still bond just enough to create a barrier?
 
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