For those keeping anemones and clowns fish

amphiprion

Member
This is an interesting article I came across on the internet. The author is Joyce Wilkerson, author of "Clownfishes; A Guide to Their Captive Care, Breeding & Natural History.
HOST ANEMONES
Joyce Wilkerson, PE
Clownfishes and Anemones
The anemone and the clownfish relationship is probably THE most compelling relationship in aquarium keeping and almost every hobbyist desires, at one time or another, to observe the anemone/clownfish relationship. Here is where clownfishes sometimes win our minds as well as our hearts. The same hobbyist who carefully buys a hardy clownfish jumps right into buying a delicate anemone without first doing any serious research. It is a lethal (to the anemone) mistake made by nearly every new marine hobbyist. Before making an informed decision about buying an anemone, consider that anemones have natural life spans of SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS IN THE OCEAN. In captivity anemones too often survive for only a few months; although there are exceptions.
If one really wants to make a clownfish happy, then one can simply skip the anemone and buy the clownfish a mate.
Unfortunately, anemone husbandry is not yet well understood as is evidenced by the lack of detailed information available on their care. The general complete care information found is less detailed than what is provided when purchasing a damselfish. Little is further from the truth than the "old fish tale" that anemones are hardy.
Clownfish hosting sea anemones too often die after 3-6 months for no apparent reason. Most hobbyists dismiss it as a personal learning experience without questioning those who misrepresented them as hardy animals.
Anemones disable prey and discourage predation upon themselves by discharging nematocysts which paralyze prey. The high molecular weight of the venom from stoichodatylids (the largest family of host sea anemones) lends credence to speculation that clownfish hosting sea anemones are food specialists. Surveys of hobbyists have fueled this speculation as food preferences seem to vary by anemone species. Thanks to those of you who have participated in the anemone survey, I have made charts of which foods seem acceptable to which host anemones.
Anemone Species Foods Accepted
Sticky Carpet
(Cryptodendrum adhaesivum) Shrimp, Fish, Liquid Invert Food, Smelts, Brine Shrimp, Bloodworms, Mosquito Larvae
Bubble-tip or Rose
(Entacmaea quadricolor) Squid, Shrimp, Clam, Brine, Scallops, Crab, Krill, Silversides, Formula 1(tm)
Sebae
(Heteractis crispa) Fish, Plankton, Shrimp, Brine Shrimp(adult live), Smelts, Bloodworms, Squid
Ritteri
(Heteractis magnifica) Shrimp, Crustaceans, Fish, Mollusks
Long Tentacle
(Heteractis Malu) Mosquito Larvae, Clam, Brine Shrimp, Feeder Goldfish, Prime(tm), Invert Food(tm), Silversides,Tankmates (corals and crustaceans)
Long Tentacle
(Macrodactyla doreensis) Shrimp, Silversides
Carpet
(Stiochodactyla gigantea) Shrimp, Squid, Silversides, Tankmates (fish)
Carpet
(Stiochodactyla haddoni) Whole Shrimp, Tuna, Cod, Perch,
Carpet
(Stiochodactyla mertensii) Fish
The survey from volunteers showed that
45% of anemones kept by hobbyists with less than 2 years of marine aquarium keeping experience were dead after an average of 3 months.
Those hobbyists with 2-5 years experience were not a lot more successful with 30% of the anemones dying in an average of 7 months. Only 5% of those surveyed with 2-5 years experience had kept their anemone for two years or more.
Even among hobbyists with more than 5 years experience, 36% of anemones kept were dead after an average of 8 months.
One in 6 anemones in the survey reached the 24 months in captivity milestone.
Only one out of every 13 anemones in the survey had been in captivity for 3 years or more.
One in every 32 reached 5 years in captivity.
But let me cease with the gloom and doom and highlight the very positive: 4.7% of the anemones in the survey were asexually "reproducing." They are Entacmaea quadricolor species. Historically it has been left to marine hobbyists to learn how to culture ornamental marine animals for scientists are not adequately funded to develop the process for us.
My personal philosophy on host anemone keeping is that I don't keep them but if I thought that I was adequately prepared (with information, money, time, and energy) then I would consider putting my best efforts forward to try to determine how to propagate them in captivity. I'm not adequately knowledgeable yet (despite about 5 years of obsessing over the matter) to think I can do any better than the dismal statistics quoted above so I refrain from keeping them. Also it breaks my heart to think of some poor wild juvenile clownfish that will be eaten because its anemone died in my aquarium. Perhaps others are better prepared than I and can learn to propagate anemones in captivity.
Hopefully, captive culturing of host anemones will become a hobbyist industry and allow hobbyists to own these beautiful animals YET leave wild clownfish's protecting homes in the wild where they are essential to clownfish survival.
 

heath

Member
yeh, i agree fully with this one-
to a tee- seems to be a popular subject....
i just posted about anemones and that article earlier to another member who is having problems with a long tentacle anemone today.
its a good article- its also an eye opener if you weren't aware before.
like i asked before in that post, has anyone had any successful survival rates? i've read that the bubble tip is the hardiest, and remember a few counts of members talking about their's multiplying...
any advice/experience???
i've had one brown long tentacle about 3 threes ago, when i first got my clarkii clown, i kept it alive for 8 months and did lots research about them, hoping to keep it alive- i did not know what i've read and seen from others now.
so that my opinion, and experience too-
h
 

scy

Member
Hello,I guess i'm one of the lucky ones,my anemones are going on 6+ years with many splits,well over 20.
 

amphiprion

Member
My bubble tip is going on three years in my tank. It is my first and only anemone that I have purchased. It has split about 6 times. I've given the babies to fellow reefers as my tank (75g) isn't big enough to keep them all in there. I only give them to people with the appropriate set ups - ie. intense lighting and lots of experience keeping a reef.
Most people buy them with out any idea of their basic needs.
 

vince

Member
Thank you for the article Amphiprion, it helped me add more knowledge to my saltwater hobby. ;)
 

tlarsen

New Member
Thank you so much for the article! I am the one who has been having so many problems. We have been turning our lights off for a good part of the day. That was suggested to us to help cut down on our alge. Sounds like that may not be helping the situation.
 

jumpingina

New Member
Originally Posted by scy
Hello,I guess i'm one of the lucky ones,my anemones are going on 6+ years with many splits,well over 20.

Hi , just oredered (2) pecular clown fish and a cheap anemone, kind of sorry now, I don't have halide lights but the bulbs that are supposed to simulate sun light , what type of lighting do you have, I'm hoping to be as lucky as u! (my tank is 120g)
thanks
Regina
 

fishieness

Active Member
Originally Posted by jumpingina
Hi , just oredered (2) pecular clown fish and a cheap anemone, kind of sorry now, I don't have halide lights but the bulbs that are supposed to simulate sun light , what type of lighting do you have, I'm hoping to be as lucky as u! (my tank is 120g)
thanks
Regina
you should have halides IMO. either that or a lot of t5s or a relay lot of VHO. but for long term survival, MH is almost always used.
 

jumpingina

New Member
Thanks for replying, I was afraid of that answer , can't get metal halides right now, quess I should enjoy my anemones now hugh?, do the feather dusters require MH too? They seem so happy now, grabbing pellets and eating them!
 

fishieness

Active Member
no, feather dusters are nonphotosynthetic. and they eat phytoplankton. I dont believe they will eat the pellets even if they do take them in. you should have to feed your tank phyto.
 

reef diver

Active Member
Well I dont have the guilt of possibly knowing the fact that i took a clowns home from the wild. My lfs is great, they almost never take from the wild when it comes to corals and anemones the propagate their own from a stock. Also, they have a special type of bubble tipo. This species is one of only 100 in the world. it has all the colors that we see in normal bubble tips, red, green pain, and it also has a yellowish color too. Supposedly that os why bubble tipsare called Enticema Quadricolor
 

poniegirl

Active Member
Originally Posted by jumpingina
Thanks for replying, I was afraid of that answer , can't get metal halides right now, quess I should enjoy my anemones now hugh?, do the feather dusters require MH too? They seem so happy now, grabbing pellets and eating them!
My LFS let me do a lay-away plan. Really nice guy, but sole-proprietor. Just a thought.
 

seegert

Member
This is all important info that I really needed to know! I am glad it was posted! Do clowns NEED hosts? Are there any recommended other than anemones? I heard you could use some type of mushroom, True or false? I did receive a picture someone posted in one of my threads of their clowns in a mushroom. Could this be a good reccommendation for me? Or should I look into something else? I intend to purchase 2 aquacultured Percula Clowns and just want to be informed before my purchase, I don't want anything that would kill my shrimp, crabs, other inverts or fish. Thanks for the informational though, it helps.
 

indymatt

Member
Clowns can host in a lot of different corals. Mushrooms, leathers, frogspawn, hammers, torches and more. I have seen a few Percs hosting torches at my LFS. Some times when the clown actually touches the corals tentacles they retract a little bit due to them reacting to the touch.
So no, anemones are not the only thing clownfish will host.
 

unleashed

Active Member
Originally Posted by seegert
This is all important info that I really needed to know! I am glad it was posted! Do clowns NEED hosts? Are there any recommended other than anemones? I heard you could use some type of mushroom, True or false? I did receive a picture someone posted in one of my threads of their clowns in a mushroom. Could this be a good reccommendation for me? Or should I look into something else? I intend to purchase 2 aquacultured Percula Clowns and just want to be informed before my purchase, I don't want anything that would kill my shrimp, crabs, other inverts or fish. Thanks for the informational though, it helps.
i have seen clown breeders use small clay pots for their clowns and other breeding fish to use as housing.if you dont want the look of a plain clay rock in your tank caot the rock with aquarium safe glue epoxy silicone ect.and coat the pot with sand or cc to create a cave.they are just as happy in a cave as they are in an enenome.
 

fishieness

Active Member
it is natural for them to host. therefore, they will host anything. i have a pair of ocellarus hosting some anthillia in my reef, and a moroon clown just hosting a corner in my fowlr. He pushes my valentini puffer away with his nose, and just kinda hangs out on the bottom.
 
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