Frag tank build
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al&burke
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build#post_3409314
Looks good Al. Any particular reason why you're going with glass on this tank over acrylic?
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build#post_3409333
Yeah they both have their pros and cons. Just wondering. Al does some good acrylic work. Wondering if he wants this for a display or just simple frag tank.
I have a friend who is getting me a pretty good deal on glass, just going to try glass for a change. This tank is going in the basement where I can grow out some frags. Also I have a 250 watt MH I am going square for good use of the light. Any thoughts on that guys for eventual placement of the light.
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build#post_3409314
Looks good Al. Any particular reason why you're going with glass on this tank over acrylic?
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build#post_3409333
Yeah they both have their pros and cons. Just wondering. Al does some good acrylic work. Wondering if he wants this for a display or just simple frag tank.
I have a friend who is getting me a pretty good deal on glass, just going to try glass for a change. This tank is going in the basement where I can grow out some frags. Also I have a 250 watt MH I am going square for good use of the light. Any thoughts on that guys for eventual placement of the light.
2quills
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Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409379
Just trying it out I want to build a 125 gallon for all my FW stuff - the overflow will be acrylic.
I'm leaning towards 12mm as well Al for a rimless at 16" high. Or 10mm braced. JMO
Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409379
Just trying it out I want to build a 125 gallon for all my FW stuff - the overflow will be acrylic.
I'm leaning towards 12mm as well Al for a rimless at 16" high. Or 10mm braced. JMO
2quills
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409411
I think 12mm is iffy on a rimless build at 16".....12mm isn't quite 1/2" material.
Might be. Looking at pics of manufactured rimless tanks though it doesn't look like their going quite that thick even on bigger tanks than this?
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409411
I think 12mm is iffy on a rimless build at 16".....12mm isn't quite 1/2" material.
Might be. Looking at pics of manufactured rimless tanks though it doesn't look like their going quite that thick even on bigger tanks than this?
2quills
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409418
Probably right I know my 240 is 1/2" and the height is greater, but it's eurobraced.....I'm gauging it against acrylic and 1/2" would be a NO IMO....might get away with it, but would have deflection....
Browsed through a few threads and eyeballing manufacturers sites. Looking at a thread now a guy just purchases a 90g cube 36x24x24 rimless starphire made out of 1/2". Starphire from what I've read isn't as strong as regular plate glass. I'm leaning towards the idea that if he doesn't go terribly tall with it I think it would be fine as long as he does a good job with the silicone and uses the good stuff.
Here's a 110g rimless 1/2". Just for kicks.
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409418
Probably right I know my 240 is 1/2" and the height is greater, but it's eurobraced.....I'm gauging it against acrylic and 1/2" would be a NO IMO....might get away with it, but would have deflection....
Browsed through a few threads and eyeballing manufacturers sites. Looking at a thread now a guy just purchases a 90g cube 36x24x24 rimless starphire made out of 1/2". Starphire from what I've read isn't as strong as regular plate glass. I'm leaning towards the idea that if he doesn't go terribly tall with it I think it would be fine as long as he does a good job with the silicone and uses the good stuff.
Here's a 110g rimless 1/2". Just for kicks.
al&burke
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Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409422
Browsed through a few threads and eyeballing manufacturers sites. Looking at a thread now a guy just purchases a 90g cube 36x24x24 rimless starphire made out of 1/2". Starphire from what I've read isn't as strong as regular plate glass. I'm leaning towards the idea that if he doesn't go terribly tall with it I think it would be fine as long as he does a good job with the silicone and uses the good stuff.
Here's a 110g rimless 1/2". Just for kicks.
Nice tank Corey, noe on the overflow it looks like there is an insert. How did he get the top of the glass black.
Originally Posted by 2Quills http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409422
Browsed through a few threads and eyeballing manufacturers sites. Looking at a thread now a guy just purchases a 90g cube 36x24x24 rimless starphire made out of 1/2". Starphire from what I've read isn't as strong as regular plate glass. I'm leaning towards the idea that if he doesn't go terribly tall with it I think it would be fine as long as he does a good job with the silicone and uses the good stuff.
Here's a 110g rimless 1/2". Just for kicks.
Nice tank Corey, noe on the overflow it looks like there is an insert. How did he get the top of the glass black.
2quills
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Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409432
Nice tank Corey, noe on the overflow it looks like there is an insert. How did he get the top of the glass black.
I think he siliconed some black egg crate on there. The glass is probably just dark reflection from the black silicone in all the joints.
Originally Posted by Al&Burke http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409432
Nice tank Corey, noe on the overflow it looks like there is an insert. How did he get the top of the glass black.
I think he siliconed some black egg crate on there. The glass is probably just dark reflection from the black silicone in all the joints.
2quills
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409480
That tank looks good...What's the specifics on that tank you showed??? Height, Length????
Not 100% sure as I can't find the thread now. But I'm thinking he probably modeled it off of other manufacturers dimensions which would be 48x24x22 which looks to be about right gauging by the pic.
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409480
That tank looks good...What's the specifics on that tank you showed??? Height, Length????
Not 100% sure as I can't find the thread now. But I'm thinking he probably modeled it off of other manufacturers dimensions which would be 48x24x22 which looks to be about right gauging by the pic.
2quills
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409505
No reputable builder would do a height with 24" and no bracing.....That's risky but looks good though.....
I think the height on the ones I seen was 22 and the width was 24.
Here's a reef savvy tank.
Reef Savvy Custom 109G Rimless with Stand & Sump
Value: $3,900.00
Quantity Available: 1
Q. What is the cutoff height for 1/2" glass on your rimless aquariums?
A. The cutoff height is 20" high, anything over that will require 3/4" glass.
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Q. What is the cutoff height for 1/2" glass on your braced aquariums?
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A. The cutoff height is 29" high, anything over that will require 3/4" glass.
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Q. What is the cutoff height for 3/4" glass on your rimless aquariums?
A. The cutoff height is 24" high, anything over that will require 1" glass.
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Q. What is the cutoff height for 3/4" glass on your braced aquariums?
A. The cutoff height is 40" high, anything over that will require 1" glass.
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409505
No reputable builder would do a height with 24" and no bracing.....That's risky but looks good though.....
I think the height on the ones I seen was 22 and the width was 24.
Here's a reef savvy tank.
Reef Savvy Custom 109G Rimless with Stand & Sump
Value: $3,900.00
Quantity Available: 1
Tank: 40L x 30W x 21H. Rimless.
Volume: Approximately 109 US Gallons.
Glass: 1/2" Ultra Clear Low Iron Float Glass & Blacked Out Back.
Overflow: Corner Hybrid: Smoked Black Glass & CNC'd Acrylic Lid.
Plumbing: All Black PVC, Silencer, Bulkheads and Loc-Lines Included.
Stand: Contemporary, Laminate, Aluminum & Glass (Real Wood, NO MDF!)
Q. What is the cutoff height for 1/2" glass on your rimless aquariums?
A. The cutoff height is 20" high, anything over that will require 3/4" glass.
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Q. What is the cutoff height for 1/2" glass on your braced aquariums?
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A. The cutoff height is 29" high, anything over that will require 3/4" glass.
____________________________________________________________________________
Q. What is the cutoff height for 3/4" glass on your rimless aquariums?
A. The cutoff height is 24" high, anything over that will require 1" glass.
____________________________________________________________________________
Q. What is the cutoff height for 3/4" glass on your braced aquariums?
A. The cutoff height is 40" high, anything over that will require 1" glass.
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2quills
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Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409531
I stand corrected!!!!!!!
Personally preference I guess, and I've heard Reef Savvy makes some nice tanks.....I personally wouldn't feel comfortable going rimless pushing the limits
No I really wouldn't either. I came across this thread over on the big site that was nothing but guys with rimless tanks and there were several that were running upwards of 24". But I think the general consensus was that was really pushing the limits of safety factor. Probably why a high end manufacture like reef savvy would stay at 20" tops for the 1/2" stuff. There does seem to be a pretty huge price difference bumping up to 3/4" from 1/2". I'm still thinkin Al would be ok with his initial measurements with half inch braceless. But anything more I'd probably have to brace it or go thicker, myself as well.
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Originally Posted by 1guyDude http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409545
Da** that is a nice tank but for the price it had better be!
Yeah they are some pretty nice tanks. I didn't see what the stand looks like that came with it but I would think it would be fairly nice as well. Can't be half as crazy as that couple on that show Tanked that was spending $30,000 on the quarantine tanks though.
Originally Posted by acrylic51 http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409531
I stand corrected!!!!!!!
No I really wouldn't either. I came across this thread over on the big site that was nothing but guys with rimless tanks and there were several that were running upwards of 24". But I think the general consensus was that was really pushing the limits of safety factor. Probably why a high end manufacture like reef savvy would stay at 20" tops for the 1/2" stuff. There does seem to be a pretty huge price difference bumping up to 3/4" from 1/2". I'm still thinkin Al would be ok with his initial measurements with half inch braceless. But anything more I'd probably have to brace it or go thicker, myself as well.
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Originally Posted by 1guyDude http:///t/387437/frag-tank-build/20#post_3409545
Da** that is a nice tank but for the price it had better be!
Yeah they are some pretty nice tanks. I didn't see what the stand looks like that came with it but I would think it would be fairly nice as well. Can't be half as crazy as that couple on that show Tanked that was spending $30,000 on the quarantine tanks though.