Frag tank & stand build

jackri

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Originally Posted by taznut
http:///forum/post/2993929
since i am using your tank to make mine and I am going to need all your help I can get to do it; i think we might as well fill mine with all those frags when its ready...

looks awesome
Bring some to trade
 

jackri

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So I tried feeding my Sailfin some spiruluna pellets last night -- and he's a good eater except very picky yet. Likes brine, not mysis -- and flake is ok but the pellets he swam to investigate and bolted... came back, bolted.. tried one and hey these aren't so bad. Well the first 5 kind of got blown under the egg crate and I fed him one at a time after that.
Went in later to check things out and he's swimming sideways under hte egg crate going after the orginal 5 -- funny as heck to watch

Gotta make sure the big bad itty bitty pellet is safe
 

jackri

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Originally Posted by taznut
http:///forum/post/2996652
sure u tell time to come get them but when I ask I have to trade...

any new pics???
fine come get some (some doesn't mean the sps frags
)
I'm expecting my plugs and epoxy to come in Wednesday so hopefully I'll have new pics posted Wed/Thurs.
 

taznut

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lol... when you do the new pics could you take a top down pic of your overflow so i could see the piping?? i wish i could find acrylic for 90$ a sheet.. cheapest i can get is 220 plus 25 to cut it... or i could go with the 1/2" from 300$ a sheet... im debating about the 1/2" since i originally thought it was going to cost 700$ to get it cut here in ames... what do you think??? i know that mine is 1.5x the size of yours and u used 3/8... did u see my new lr?? i think this is going to work just takes forever to dry...
 

jackri

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Mine wasn't 90 bucks a sheet -- it was 90 bucks for a 34 x 42 inch piece. I'll try and get more pics Wed/Thursday when my plugs come in (unless I'm sandbagging). I kinda want to make my own Live rock and sort of don't. I like being able to mold it but not sure if it's porous as I like.
1/2" would be overkill for your application I think. 3/8" is pretty sturdy and I'd feel safe doubling the depth at this point.
 

taznut

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Originally Posted by jackri
http:///forum/post/2997253
Mine wasn't 90 bucks a sheet -- it was 90 bucks for a 34 x 42 inch piece. I'll try and get more pics Wed/Thursday when my plugs come in (unless I'm sandbagging). I kinda want to make my own Live rock and sort of don't. I like being able to mold it but not sure if it's porous as I like.
1/2" would be overkill for your application I think. 3/8" is pretty sturdy and I'd feel safe doubling the depth at this point.
wow this is soooo confusing
... some people say 3/8 is good others say it isnt... i want to go with the 3/8 more for the weight reason than the money but it is always good to save money... and if i went with the 3/8 i could map it out better so there is less waste...
Thats what i am worried about with making my own lr but i dont want to spend 1000$ on real lr and i cant find a lot of base rock... depending on how it turns out i might buy a some base rock from the lfs and just keep going back until i get enough... i hope i can use some of what i made though because i spent about 100$ on the supplies...
i think i might get a concrete drill bit (the smallest i can find) and just drill a lot of hole in mine... i added some salt but im afraid if i add too much once it goes thought the curing process it will fall apart then i wasted 8-10 weeks...
 

jackri

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I've heard add rock salt -- then when you cure it it dissolves and leaves porous openings in the rock. I wouldn't give up on making your own live rock -- I've just never done it and live rock can be spendy although if you look hard enough on line or on local for sale adds you can get it pretty cheap and sometimes free. I picked up some free fish and live rock before -- didn't need the live rock at the time and gave it away... and of course now I could use some
 

jackri

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Oh, 1/2" acrylic obviously is a lot more sturdy and rigid... but IMO overkill for this application.
 

taznut

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Originally Posted by jackri
http:///forum/post/2997529
Oh, 1/2" acrylic obviously is a lot more sturdy and rigid... but IMO overkill for this application.
okay have drawn up the plans for the 3/8... going to look like yours but i am going to run a 4" support from front to back in the middle... can you look at my new thread if you get the chance (about the overflow)... thanks...

i added some salt but afraid too much will make it crumble when it dissolves...
 

taznut

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how long did you let your tanks sit before leak checking them??? i just did the last 2 seams on the sump (just did the outter box first will add inside pieces later)... and i know you used extra pieces of acrylic to fill the leaks but can i run some silicon or thicker acrylic weld to fill mine (just assuming i am going to have a few, LOL)... i know you cant use acrlyic to hold the tank together but will it work to stop the leaks since its not as much pressure??
 

jackri

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Silicone will not work as it will not actually adhere or bond to the acrylic. Not sure what you mean but not being able to use acrylic to hold the tank together as that's all I use.
Weld on #4 really sets up in less than an hour.. but give it overnight to be safe.
 

taznut

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wish i would have gotten this sooner... lol... i already sealed all the seams in the sump with silicone... i used the weld to hold the tank, the silicone is just to keep the water out of any of the areas that didnt seal too well... there are really only a couple areas on the bottom that look like they might leak so adding the silicone may be pointless... my test piece had a small leak and the silicone sealed that so i hope this doesnt affect anything... i guess we will see... i am posting pics of the sump in my post if you want to take a look at the finished product... will test it tonight or tomorrow to see if the seals are good...
 

joncat24

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If you have small gaps in your panels, you can use small strips of acrylic applied with weld-on to fill the gaps. Silicone may hold for a bit, but it WILL fail on acrylic, just a matter of time.
 

taznut

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i had a small seep in the sump under the baffles so i had to use the silicone to fill it... i hope it works... there is no way i could weld in a strip, i had trouble getting the silicone in there... this stuff is made for aquariums... and the leak was only about a drop in 3 or 4 min so i hope it holds... if not i will have to redo the entire sump... i got in too big of hurry and didnt test before i put the whole thing together... if i have to redo everything i will use one of my 55g tanks because i dont have the money for all the acrylic again.. i feel like an idiot... i guess either i will prove you two wrong (which i highly doubt) or will have a mess on the floor some day... wow, I'm really p***ed at myself right now... thanks for the help...
 

joncat24

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A leak under the baffles is no big deal. As long as your main panels are sealed good, you should be ok. The silicone will hold up for the baffles, as there is not much pressure on them, but it won't hold your main panel seams.
 
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