thereefer9
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I have spare 10 gallon 20 gallon and 30 gallon tanks and I would realy like to make these into freshwater aquariums. Any ideas on what I should stock in these tanks?
Freshwater tank questions
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rainbowsix
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well depends on what you like. Oscars are probably the smartest fish I have ever encountered. They are like dogs.
I have had piranhas too. You know, not sure if you are into it or not , but I think the highly planted freshwater tanks are awesome. Kind of like keeping corals, but in freshwater.
Good Luck
I have had piranhas too. You know, not sure if you are into it or not , but I think the highly planted freshwater tanks are awesome. Kind of like keeping corals, but in freshwater.
Good Luck
southoats
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Honestly, you can start out in so many different directions is crazy. You could go live planted or artificial, and you could also even decide to do a habitat tank, where you duplicate the habitat of certain fish.
Those aren't real big tanks and you don't have too many options when it comes to cichlids, oscars are not one of them. If you want to try cichlids on, I would recommend a pair of Kribensis Pulchers, they are pretty cool little fish, fairly easy on a planted tank, so long as everything is anchored down, and they can be fairly personable.
For the ten, I would more than 100% recommend doing a female betta tank, plant it well, very well, and then put 4-5 female bettas in there, they are sweet, and make a GREAT tank. They have all the personality of males, if not more, and they have stunning color! When you sit down next to the tank, they WILL come over to see what you're doing, or maybe they just want food? I like to think that they want to see me.
Or a little dwarf puffer in the ten gallon! That would be cool! Maybe a pair of Killifish? The tirthy would be nice with a small pleco in it too, maybe tetras, with a really nicely planted tank, black sand, and lots of open swimming room, you'd have a hella active tank.
Maybe a pair of Honuran Red Points in the 30, they're pretty personalble and very pretty when in breeding colors.
I dunno, but I can think of a few others if you'd like!
Those aren't real big tanks and you don't have too many options when it comes to cichlids, oscars are not one of them. If you want to try cichlids on, I would recommend a pair of Kribensis Pulchers, they are pretty cool little fish, fairly easy on a planted tank, so long as everything is anchored down, and they can be fairly personable.
For the ten, I would more than 100% recommend doing a female betta tank, plant it well, very well, and then put 4-5 female bettas in there, they are sweet, and make a GREAT tank. They have all the personality of males, if not more, and they have stunning color! When you sit down next to the tank, they WILL come over to see what you're doing, or maybe they just want food? I like to think that they want to see me.
Or a little dwarf puffer in the ten gallon! That would be cool! Maybe a pair of Killifish? The tirthy would be nice with a small pleco in it too, maybe tetras, with a really nicely planted tank, black sand, and lots of open swimming room, you'd have a hella active tank.
Maybe a pair of Honuran Red Points in the 30, they're pretty personalble and very pretty when in breeding colors.
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surfinusa
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what about a planted tank with lots of glowlight tetras and neon tetras.
bjoe23
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Originally Posted by THEREEFER9
I have spare 10 gallon 20 gallon and 30 gallon tanks and I would realy like to make these into freshwater aquariums. Any ideas on what I should stock in these tanks?
noob with sw
expert with fw
For fw with most color get some africans
angels are nice too!
choices! so many!
u could get alot of guppys and probably 2 will bread
any preferences?
I have spare 10 gallon 20 gallon and 30 gallon tanks and I would realy like to make these into freshwater aquariums. Any ideas on what I should stock in these tanks?
noob with sw
expert with fw
For fw with most color get some africans
angels are nice too!
choices! so many!
u could get alot of guppys and probably 2 will bread
any preferences?
thereefer9
Member
I realy like inteligent fish. I would like to set up a planted tank for the 30 with angels what are good tankmates with these fish?
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by RainbowSix
well depends on what you like. Oscars are probably the smartest fish I have ever encountered. They are like dogs.
I have had piranhas too. You know, not sure if you are into it or not , but I think the highly planted freshwater tanks are awesome. Kind of like keeping corals, but in freshwater.
Good Luck
No offence but even the 30 is too small for either of those choices. Maybe one piranhah.
It all depends on the fish you want. Being you want "smart fish" then the 30 gallon is the best to use. 10's are ok for neons and other tiny fish. I would say probably a pair of cichlids, the males have spots on their anal fin and the females do not. Cichlids are about the smartest fish that I have seen that will be good in that sized tank. If the tank were larger then I would say a FW dolphin. They are very smart and will feed right from your hand.
well depends on what you like. Oscars are probably the smartest fish I have ever encountered. They are like dogs.
I have had piranhas too. You know, not sure if you are into it or not , but I think the highly planted freshwater tanks are awesome. Kind of like keeping corals, but in freshwater.
Good Luck
No offence but even the 30 is too small for either of those choices. Maybe one piranhah.
It all depends on the fish you want. Being you want "smart fish" then the 30 gallon is the best to use. 10's are ok for neons and other tiny fish. I would say probably a pair of cichlids, the males have spots on their anal fin and the females do not. Cichlids are about the smartest fish that I have seen that will be good in that sized tank. If the tank were larger then I would say a FW dolphin. They are very smart and will feed right from your hand.
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by THEREEFER9
I realy like inteligent fish. I would like to set up a planted tank for the 30 with angels what are good tankmates with these fish?
That is a good choice. Remember that FW plants need good light just as SW plants do. A small t-5 should be fine for that. Not many fish can go in with Angels. You can get a Bala shark (tri-color), an Opaline gourami (one of the larger gouramies, they come in gold or blue). It is tough to pick tankmates because they have to be fish that the Angels won't pick on, that get larger and will not pick on the Angels either.
I realy like inteligent fish. I would like to set up a planted tank for the 30 with angels what are good tankmates with these fish?
That is a good choice. Remember that FW plants need good light just as SW plants do. A small t-5 should be fine for that. Not many fish can go in with Angels. You can get a Bala shark (tri-color), an Opaline gourami (one of the larger gouramies, they come in gold or blue). It is tough to pick tankmates because they have to be fish that the Angels won't pick on, that get larger and will not pick on the Angels either.
rbaldino
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Cichlids are probably the most intelligent fish you can get, but many of them tend to be very aggressive, and some can be quite disruptive in a tank, moving everything around. I used to have a convict cichlid that would move all the gravel to one side of the tank. it was cute at first, but got old fast.
Discus are the only cichlids I can think of that aren't real aggressive or messy. They can be quite beautiful, but also very expensive. A 30 gallon tank with a few discus would be a great showpiece.
Discus are the only cichlids I can think of that aren't real aggressive or messy. They can be quite beautiful, but also very expensive. A 30 gallon tank with a few discus would be a great showpiece.
thereefer9
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dont arrowanas need realy big tanks? Will a small pleco be good with the angels in the 30? How many watts do plants need?
thereefer9
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I also have a 55 gallon with a large pleco,kissing gouramis,firemouth cichlids,loach,cory catfish and tetras can I keep a Freshwater dolphin in this tank?
southoats
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Arrowanas need HUGE tanks! They can get up to 3 feet long, this is not a fish that you want to put in anything smaller than a 150. They are not really a "pet quality" fish either, more of an "Ooooo look it's a huge fish" sort of fish, they don't really interact with you.
I would say that a pair of angels would need more room than a 30 gallon tank, they get pretty big at maturity. If you used a 55 gallon tank and planted it pretty heavy then added some fast fish, like a herd of Neon tetras perhaps, then you'd have a pretty active and interesting tank. The angels being the center piece and the neons adding constant movement.
With FW remember less is more, too many fish and you have a cluttered tank.
I'm still pushing for the betta females, they are super intelligent and love to "watch" you. You can get tons of color combos and they have a pet quality that is a good rival to an oscar.
I would say that a pair of angels would need more room than a 30 gallon tank, they get pretty big at maturity. If you used a 55 gallon tank and planted it pretty heavy then added some fast fish, like a herd of Neon tetras perhaps, then you'd have a pretty active and interesting tank. The angels being the center piece and the neons adding constant movement.
With FW remember less is more, too many fish and you have a cluttered tank.
I'm still pushing for the betta females, they are super intelligent and love to "watch" you. You can get tons of color combos and they have a pet quality that is a good rival to an oscar.
southoats
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Originally Posted by THEREEFER9
I also have a 55 gallon with a large pleco,kissing gouramis,firemouth cichlids,loach,cory catfish and tetras can I keep a Freshwater dolphin in this tank?
um. no. That tank is well over stocked. Each of your firemouths need a 30 gallon tank minimum. The pleco, I'm guessing is a common, will reach around 13" at full size and that fish would need the 55 all to itself.
Not to mention that you are dealing with fish that need different PH levels to be happy. Your gouramis are happy at around 7.2 and the firemouths, being new world cichlids, native to areas of mexico, need a higher PH around 7.8. Your pleco, again, I'm guessing that you have a common, need meat in their diet, they are more carnivorous than anything. If you are looking for an algea eater, then you want a Bristle Nose Pleco.
That tank would be good for a small school of cories (4-6 depending upon the size of the cories) and the tetras (around 6, maybe, again depending upon species), along with your firemouths, as well as a small Pleco (the BN plecos only reach around 4 inches) and that's it. Even at that you are looking at 30% water changes on a weekly basis and being diligent about it.
I also have a 55 gallon with a large pleco,kissing gouramis,firemouth cichlids,loach,cory catfish and tetras can I keep a Freshwater dolphin in this tank?
um. no. That tank is well over stocked. Each of your firemouths need a 30 gallon tank minimum. The pleco, I'm guessing is a common, will reach around 13" at full size and that fish would need the 55 all to itself.
Not to mention that you are dealing with fish that need different PH levels to be happy. Your gouramis are happy at around 7.2 and the firemouths, being new world cichlids, native to areas of mexico, need a higher PH around 7.8. Your pleco, again, I'm guessing that you have a common, need meat in their diet, they are more carnivorous than anything. If you are looking for an algea eater, then you want a Bristle Nose Pleco.
That tank would be good for a small school of cories (4-6 depending upon the size of the cories) and the tetras (around 6, maybe, again depending upon species), along with your firemouths, as well as a small Pleco (the BN plecos only reach around 4 inches) and that's it. Even at that you are looking at 30% water changes on a weekly basis and being diligent about it.
lazypinoy
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Originally Posted by SouthOats
Arrowanas need HUGE tanks! They can get up to 3 feet long, this is not a fish that you want to put in anything smaller than a 150. They are not really a "pet quality" fish either, more of an "Ooooo look it's a huge fish" sort of fish, they don't really interact with you.
I would say that a pair of angels would need more room than a 30 gallon tank, they get pretty big at maturity. If you used a 55 gallon tank and planted it pretty heavy then added some fast fish, like a herd of Neon tetras perhaps, then you'd have a pretty active and interesting tank. The angels being the center piece and the neons adding constant movement.
With FW remember less is more, too many fish and you have a cluttered tank.
I'm still pushing for the betta females, they are super intelligent and love to "watch" you. You can get tons of color combos and they have a pet quality that is a good rival to an oscar.
oh i never knew that. what about a flowerhorn. the nice looking ones cost several hundred dollars though.
Arrowanas need HUGE tanks! They can get up to 3 feet long, this is not a fish that you want to put in anything smaller than a 150. They are not really a "pet quality" fish either, more of an "Ooooo look it's a huge fish" sort of fish, they don't really interact with you.
I would say that a pair of angels would need more room than a 30 gallon tank, they get pretty big at maturity. If you used a 55 gallon tank and planted it pretty heavy then added some fast fish, like a herd of Neon tetras perhaps, then you'd have a pretty active and interesting tank. The angels being the center piece and the neons adding constant movement.
With FW remember less is more, too many fish and you have a cluttered tank.
I'm still pushing for the betta females, they are super intelligent and love to "watch" you. You can get tons of color combos and they have a pet quality that is a good rival to an oscar.
oh i never knew that. what about a flowerhorn. the nice looking ones cost several hundred dollars though.
southoats
Member
I have seen Flowerhorns that reach 15 inches in size, but more recently they are bred to be a smaller fish, never reaching more than 12 inches. As small adults they are actually a little bit of a paranoid fish and don't like HUGE amounts of space. A 40 gallon tank would be good, but you would need to upgrade to a 75 (optimally) by the time they reach adulthood. Basically the same requirements as for an Oscar!
Flowerhorns are really interesting fish, they have some incredible color!
Flowerhorns are really interesting fish, they have some incredible color!
lazypinoy
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theyre great. saw a black/red one over here for 250. then one with some blue for like 600$. in china or somewhere in asia they consider them lucky aka the lucky fish. in philippines i have relatives who have a15inch one in 3 gallon tank and amazingly he lived for 5 years and still lives! they only cost a few dollrs in asia.
that fish must have lucky powers to surive that long.
that fish must have lucky powers to surive that long.
reef noob
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Originally Posted by LazyPinoy
theyre great. saw a black/red one over here for 250. then one with some blue for like 600$. in china or somewhere in asia they consider them lucky aka the lucky fish. in philippines i have relatives who have a15inch one in 3 gallon tank and amazingly he lived for 5 years and still lives! they only cost a few dollrs in asia.
that fish must have lucky powers to surive that long.
for the 30 i would get 1 or 2 green severums, a bristlnose pleco, and a school of hachetfish
theyre great. saw a black/red one over here for 250. then one with some blue for like 600$. in china or somewhere in asia they consider them lucky aka the lucky fish. in philippines i have relatives who have a15inch one in 3 gallon tank and amazingly he lived for 5 years and still lives! they only cost a few dollrs in asia.
that fish must have lucky powers to surive that long.
for the 30 i would get 1 or 2 green severums, a bristlnose pleco, and a school of hachetfish