Freshwater tank questions
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thereefer9
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Originally Posted by reef noob
for the 30 i would get 1 or 2 green severums, a bristlnose pleco, and a school of hachetfish
can severums be kept with plants?
for the 30 i would get 1 or 2 green severums, a bristlnose pleco, and a school of hachetfish
can severums be kept with plants?
southoats
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Originally Posted by LazyPinoy
omg i found this pic. its a pair of flowerhorn kissing! i want a pair so bad!
"Kissing" is not really what I would call that. That's more like Jaw locking and fighting. They don't kiss. Though it would be neat!
Those are great looking Flowerhorns! Dispite the attacking each other thing....
omg i found this pic. its a pair of flowerhorn kissing! i want a pair so bad!
"Kissing" is not really what I would call that. That's more like Jaw locking and fighting. They don't kiss. Though it would be neat!
Those are great looking Flowerhorns! Dispite the attacking each other thing....
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by THEREEFER9
I also have a 55 gallon with a large pleco,kissing gouramis,firemouth cichlids,loach,cory catfish and tetras can I keep a Freshwater dolphin in this tank?
FW dolphins are awsome fish. To keep one long term, it would be best to have sand or fine gravel. The fire mouths would be a problem, your other fish would be fine. Your tank size would be fine. I have pics of a FW dolphin that I was babysitting. He was in with a cichlid. I also have pics of a FW dolphin tht lived with angelfish in a 29G.
I also have a 55 gallon with a large pleco,kissing gouramis,firemouth cichlids,loach,cory catfish and tetras can I keep a Freshwater dolphin in this tank?
FW dolphins are awsome fish. To keep one long term, it would be best to have sand or fine gravel. The fire mouths would be a problem, your other fish would be fine. Your tank size would be fine. I have pics of a FW dolphin that I was babysitting. He was in with a cichlid. I also have pics of a FW dolphin tht lived with angelfish in a 29G.
sepulatian
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"Kissing" is not really what I would call that. That's more like Jaw locking and fighting. They don't kiss. Though it would be neat!
Those are great looking Flowerhorns! Dispite the attacking each other thing....
I absolutely agree
Those are great looking Flowerhorns! Dispite the attacking each other thing....
I absolutely agree
thereefer9
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woah that things cool looking sepulation. Why do they need fine gravel? My firemouths havent been very Aggresive towards other fish they tend to just squable amonst eachother.
southoats
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Firemouths are actually not that aggressive towards other fish, they do tend to have a tussle or two amongst themselves but other than that they are fairly non-agressive in the cichlid world!
I love the FW dolphins, but I have to say that I would think that they are a little big for a 30 gallon. Maybe for the short term until they grow larger.
I have never personally kept them, but most of the time when they need find gravel or sand, they are diggers or burrowers!
I love the FW dolphins, but I have to say that I would think that they are a little big for a 30 gallon. Maybe for the short term until they grow larger.
I have never personally kept them, but most of the time when they need find gravel or sand, they are diggers or burrowers!
oceansidefish
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I personally would not even put a bala shark in a 30 as someone suggested they get pretty big.... I have 2 in a 60L and will probably have to get a bigger tank (but then the 60's going to be a reef). I have seen bala sharks almost a foot long
sepulatian
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Originally Posted by SouthOats
Firemouths are actually not that aggressive towards other fish, they do tend to have a tussle or two amongst themselves but other than that they are fairly non-agressive in the cichlid world!
I love the FW dolphins, but I have to say that I would think that they are a little big for a 30 gallon. Maybe for the short term until they grow larger.
I have never personally kept them, but most of the time when they need find gravel or sand, they are diggers or burrowers!
The reason for the fine gravel or sand is that they feed off of worms, blood or black. They use their "nose" to get the worms and they get scratched on the rocks. Don't get me wrong, they will hunt through gravel and larger rocks to get their food but they can hurt themselves. FW Dolphins stay the size that you saw in the pic. They get fatter, but not longer. They are not overly active and would be perfectly happy in a 30 gallon. My only concern with the firemouth is the dolphins inability to defend itself other than tail slapping. Tri color, AKA Bala sharks can grow to a foot but most do not. They grow to their environment without ill effects to the fish if they are in a slightly smaller tank. The 30 would be perfect for one of those as well.
Firemouths are actually not that aggressive towards other fish, they do tend to have a tussle or two amongst themselves but other than that they are fairly non-agressive in the cichlid world!
I love the FW dolphins, but I have to say that I would think that they are a little big for a 30 gallon. Maybe for the short term until they grow larger.
I have never personally kept them, but most of the time when they need find gravel or sand, they are diggers or burrowers!
The reason for the fine gravel or sand is that they feed off of worms, blood or black. They use their "nose" to get the worms and they get scratched on the rocks. Don't get me wrong, they will hunt through gravel and larger rocks to get their food but they can hurt themselves. FW Dolphins stay the size that you saw in the pic. They get fatter, but not longer. They are not overly active and would be perfectly happy in a 30 gallon. My only concern with the firemouth is the dolphins inability to defend itself other than tail slapping. Tri color, AKA Bala sharks can grow to a foot but most do not. They grow to their environment without ill effects to the fish if they are in a slightly smaller tank. The 30 would be perfect for one of those as well.
southoats
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Originally Posted by sepulatian
The reason for the fine gravel or sand is that they feed off of worms, blood or black. They use their "nose" to get the worms and they get scratched on the rocks. Don't get me wrong, they will hunt through gravel and larger rocks to get their food but they can hurt themselves. FW Dolphins stay the size that you saw in the pic. They get fatter, but not longer. They are not overly active and would be perfectly happy in a 30 gallon. My only concern with the firemouth is the dolphins inability to defend itself other than tail slapping. Tri color, AKA Bala sharks can grow to a foot but most do not. They grow to their environment without ill effects to the fish if they are in a slightly smaller tank. The 30 would be perfect for one of those as well.
OH! whoops I didn't really make myself clear on that post.
I have always seen the Firemouths that I have kept in the past dig around a little bit before they spawn. That's what I thought was meant by that question, most fish don't really like to move rocks around when they can fling sand everywhere! Not to mention that I had one that liked to rake the small gravel peices along the glass when he wanted you to come give him some face time.
I have never kept kept a FW dolphin, so I figured that if that was the biggest they got, then when they were smaller that would be a good tank size and to graduate to a larger one, unless it's the only thing in the tank.
I'd love to try one out though! They are just too cool lookin!
ANYhoo... Hope you get all your choices figured out! FW is fun too!
The reason for the fine gravel or sand is that they feed off of worms, blood or black. They use their "nose" to get the worms and they get scratched on the rocks. Don't get me wrong, they will hunt through gravel and larger rocks to get their food but they can hurt themselves. FW Dolphins stay the size that you saw in the pic. They get fatter, but not longer. They are not overly active and would be perfectly happy in a 30 gallon. My only concern with the firemouth is the dolphins inability to defend itself other than tail slapping. Tri color, AKA Bala sharks can grow to a foot but most do not. They grow to their environment without ill effects to the fish if they are in a slightly smaller tank. The 30 would be perfect for one of those as well.
OH! whoops I didn't really make myself clear on that post.
I have always seen the Firemouths that I have kept in the past dig around a little bit before they spawn. That's what I thought was meant by that question, most fish don't really like to move rocks around when they can fling sand everywhere! Not to mention that I had one that liked to rake the small gravel peices along the glass when he wanted you to come give him some face time.
I have never kept kept a FW dolphin, so I figured that if that was the biggest they got, then when they were smaller that would be a good tank size and to graduate to a larger one, unless it's the only thing in the tank.
I'd love to try one out though! They are just too cool lookin!
ANYhoo... Hope you get all your choices figured out! FW is fun too!
thereefer9
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Originally Posted by FitchGuy
How dare you post this question on this site!!!
I say make them some simple reef tanks! Make them area specific or certain coral type tanks. Make your own fish room!!
Normaly I would but I tried that once and I just dont have the time to care for more than 2 saltwater tanks and I find freshwater fish just as interesting.
How dare you post this question on this site!!!
I say make them some simple reef tanks! Make them area specific or certain coral type tanks. Make your own fish room!!
Normaly I would but I tried that once and I just dont have the time to care for more than 2 saltwater tanks and I find freshwater fish just as interesting.
coral keeper
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Is there any kind of cichlid that can be kept in a 10 gallon tank? Will 15 watts of fluorescent lighting work for plants on a 10 gallon tank? Will a fresh water puffer be ok in a 10 gallon tank too?
southoats
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Cichlid in a 10 gallon... hmmm. Maybe ONE blue ram. But that's about it, for a pair of them you would want at least 15 gallons. As far as the lighting, If you don't want to grow live plants then it's more than ok. There is no light requirement there. If you do want to grow plants then you are going to be looking at a light temp of at least 6500K (6700k is better) and at the least 1.5 - 2 WPG. No more than 4 watts, as this will cause too much algae growth.
A FW puffer would be perfect for a ten gallon tank, and if you got two females then you could put them in together if their temperpent was docile. Puffers are very cool in FW too, the dwarfs are actually some of my faves, and they are a true FW puffer. Now, I know that there is a little bit of debate on that, but from all i've read it seems that they are 100% freshwater, or they can be. If not just a touch to the brackish side. But with puffers you need to remember that you are going to have to have a feeder snail tank as well as they need the live snails to eat for thier beaks. I think I'm preaching to the choir.
A FW puffer would be perfect for a ten gallon tank, and if you got two females then you could put them in together if their temperpent was docile. Puffers are very cool in FW too, the dwarfs are actually some of my faves, and they are a true FW puffer. Now, I know that there is a little bit of debate on that, but from all i've read it seems that they are 100% freshwater, or they can be. If not just a touch to the brackish side. But with puffers you need to remember that you are going to have to have a feeder snail tank as well as they need the live snails to eat for thier beaks. I think I'm preaching to the choir.
coral keeper
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How big dos a blue ram get? How do you tell if its a male or female?
southoats
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They don't get very big, about 2-2.5 inches. It's just that 10 gallons is too tight of quarters for more than one.
You can --- rams actually kinda easy, when you look at the dorsal fin, the first few rays will stick up a little higher than the rest, like a mohawk, that's a male.
Also, the females have blue irridescence in the black dot on their side, as where the male doesn't. This is something that you have to be looking for and it's not easy to determine unless you have a female with a lot of "dots" in her black spot. The spot is easy to identify, it's big and black on the fishes side.
Other than those little differences, they are identical.
Unfortunately for the puffer it's a design or stripe on thier belly that the females have and I've got no idea what it is. I've heard of people keeping two in a ten gallon, but after thinking on that over night, I would ditch the 2 females idea and go with a pair, a male and a female. Who knows, they may breed! I'll have to look around and find the sexing technique on them, it's easy I just don'e remember what the marking is that distinguishes them.
You can --- rams actually kinda easy, when you look at the dorsal fin, the first few rays will stick up a little higher than the rest, like a mohawk, that's a male.
Also, the females have blue irridescence in the black dot on their side, as where the male doesn't. This is something that you have to be looking for and it's not easy to determine unless you have a female with a lot of "dots" in her black spot. The spot is easy to identify, it's big and black on the fishes side.
Other than those little differences, they are identical.
Unfortunately for the puffer it's a design or stripe on thier belly that the females have and I've got no idea what it is. I've heard of people keeping two in a ten gallon, but after thinking on that over night, I would ditch the 2 females idea and go with a pair, a male and a female. Who knows, they may breed! I'll have to look around and find the sexing technique on them, it's easy I just don'e remember what the marking is that distinguishes them.
coral keeper
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Dos anyone know if there is a fourm on fresh water fish? If there is plz PM me the site.