Frogspawn...help please

meowzer

Moderator
OK, I have my frogspawn about 12" from top of tank...under cf lights....coralife 384watts.....It was a little over 2 weeks ago that I moved it into my 225g....It is not opening all the way. I have moved it 2x...each time leaving it a week. My water parameters are all normal.....temp 82....medium flow (the tentacles move some)
Any suggestions?
 

mx#28

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2830745
OK, I have my frogspawn about 12" from top of tank...under cf lights....coralife 384watts.....It was a little over 2 weeks ago that I moved it into my 225g....It is not opening all the way. I have moved it 2x...each time leaving it a week. My water parameters are all normal.....temp 82....medium flow (the tentacles move some)
Any suggestions?
Yes, put it in good conditions and LEAVE IT BE. It's very stressful for the coral to be handled and placed in different conditions so often. You seem to have a tendency to constantly move things and it can be stressful, damaging, and even fatal for your corals to do so.
 

meowzer

Moderator
OK, I read somewhere that if it didn't open fully in a few days to move it...so that is not correct??? I am trying to do the right thing, So in your opinion I should just leave it be? The position I described should be ok as far aslight and all???
 

nwdyr

Active Member
I would also leave it be for awhile , I have had allot of luck with FS and I didn't move them unless I had to
JMO
 

mx#28

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2831192
OK, I read somewhere that if it didn't open fully in a few days to move it...so that is not correct??? I am trying to do the right thing, So in your opinion I should just leave it be? The position I described should be ok as far aslight and all???
Well, let's start from the beginning to make sure we'll all together. Big, fleshy LPS corals can easily be torn by their own skeleton during shipping or handling, when being removed from the water, if hit with flow that's too strong, or when falling, etc (they can also be damaged by fish, inverts, and other stinging corals). In optimal conditions, most can recover from a degree of damage - but, more often than not, damaged tissue can be the beginning of the end. Considering the stress in changing conditions and the potential damage in moving the coral, I strongly advise to find an acceptable location and let the coral become established. Unless there is a good reason to move it around, you're much better off to just leave it be.
That said, the conditions need to be right. So, first thing's first - what are your exact water parameters? Also, frogspawns will want pretty subtle water movement - it's okay for them to GENTLY sway, but any more than that can be too strong. Thirdly, do you have any questionable reef critters that might be picking at the coral?
The lighting you describe should be satisfactory. Has this coral been in similar lighting for a while? I ask because photosynthetic corals can experience 'photoshock' when suddenly exposed to lighting more intense than they are adjusted for. If the coral is used to more subdued lighting, than a period of 'light acclimation' is important.
That's the end of my novel. You say you want to do the right thing, so I've tried to be thourough. It's a great hobby, but is complicated and full of research to do it correctly. I suggest you slow down a little and keep trying your best.
 

meowzer

Moderator
Water...ammonia, nitrite, nitrate all 0..PH runs around 8 8.2...temp 82. I have it in a spot where it has a slight sway, nothing is blowing directly on it, I have not seen any other fish mess with it, and I watch, It came from my 54g tank that has a dual satellite running 2 65W bulbs + 130W....
I actually acquired this frogspawn with the 54g..I only moved it to the 225g when I found out I could not keep it with seahorses...I originally placed it near the bottom of tank, and after a week moved it up some...that is what I was advised to do by asking someone. I will leave it where it is, I in no way am in a rush, Like I said I moved it the way I was advised to do....
Thank you for your response, I value your opinions as you obviously have more experience than I.....such is the reason I am a member of these message boards...for more knowledge about these delicate species.
 

mx#28

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2831254
Water...ammonia, nitrite, nitrate all 0..PH runs around 8 8.2...temp 82. (What are the calcium, dKH, and magnessium levels?? I have it in a spot where it has a slight sway, nothing is blowing directly on it, I have not seen any other fish mess with it, and I watch, It came from my 54g tank that has a dual satellite running 2 65W bulbs + 130W.... (Sounds good)
I actually acquired this frogspawn with the 54g..I only moved it to the 225g when I found out I could not keep it with seahorses...(I understand your motive, now)I originally placed it near the bottom of tank, and after a week moved it up some...that is what I was advised to do by asking someone. (This is for the sake of the 'light acclimation' that I mentioned - is also sensible, though it can also be done without moving the coral) I will leave it where it is, I in no way am in a rush, Like I said I moved it the way I was advised to do....
Thank you for your response, I value your opinions as you obviously have more experience than I.....such is the reason I am a member of these message boards...for more knowledge about these delicate species.
Post a photo if and when you get a chance, I'd like to see if anything is obviously up with it or if it is just a little stressed. Frogspawns are GREAT corals and amongst my absolute favorites, get it strong and healthy again and it can be a showpiece!
 

meowzer

Moderator
My calcium is 400, phosphate 0,...I don't know about the others you asked about.
I took these pics this afternoon...sorry about the quality...I can not see any damage at all around the base of frogspawn either.


 

meowzer

Moderator
Well I posted the photos...sorry they are not so great...I do not see any damage at the base of frogspawn at all....The only thing wrong is it isn't opening.
CAN you see anything????
 

mx#28

Active Member
Originally Posted by meowzer
http:///forum/post/2833626
Well I posted the photos...sorry they are not so great...I do not see any damage at the base of frogspawn at all....The only thing wrong is it isn't opening.
CAN you see anything????
Photos are a bit blurry, but no - I can't see any damage in them. Let it be and keep your fingers crossed and your eyes open.
 

meowzer

Moderator
OK, I will leave it alone. I have been watching it closely, and although fish swim by it, none have bothered it..I hope it perks back up....it has 4 beautiful heads when opened fully.
 

forsfed50

Member
I suppose all circumstances can differ but I have moved my frogspawn
3 or 4 times in the last 2 weeks and it still opens fully. Moved for
different reasons like new additions. Not sure of what the problem with
yours may be. As a rule you should leave it in one spot at least
for a while.
 
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