From Partying Like Its 1999 to the end in 2012...
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coral keeper
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Originally Posted by ruaround
http:///forum/post/2899897
who buys into this???
i would like to say that humans LOVE to scare themselves and will do what ever it takes to stir a controversy...
That's full of crap. The world will not end in 2012.
http:///forum/post/2899897
who buys into this???
i would like to say that humans LOVE to scare themselves and will do what ever it takes to stir a controversy...
That's full of crap. The world will not end in 2012.
ruaround
Active Member
Originally Posted by Coral Keeper
http:///forum/post/2899901
That's full of crap. The world will not end in 2012.
elaboration???
http:///forum/post/2899901
That's full of crap. The world will not end in 2012.
elaboration???
U
usirchchris
Guest
The concept is intriguing. Quite an honor to go out with the end of the world IMO. This is based on the myan or incan calender ending is it not? From what I have read this "ending" signified a new beginning or rebirth not an ending. Something to do with astrological stuff aligning...probably conjured up by an elder using the medicinal tweed.
yearofthenick
Active Member
I've recently learned that the rapture will not take place until everyone on the planet has heard the gospel. We're not even close to that.
Also, it says that in the end times there will be a singular (or world) government and with that will come a world currency. We're already heading that way with the "Amero" to replace the US Dollar, Canadian Dollar and Peso. That coupled with the euro and yen being two other major currencies, it's only a matter of time before we get to a world currency. But again, it will be a LOOONG time before that happens.
Although I do think the rapture might happen in my lifetime. Pretty sweet/pants-wetting.
Also, it says that in the end times there will be a singular (or world) government and with that will come a world currency. We're already heading that way with the "Amero" to replace the US Dollar, Canadian Dollar and Peso. That coupled with the euro and yen being two other major currencies, it's only a matter of time before we get to a world currency. But again, it will be a LOOONG time before that happens.
Although I do think the rapture might happen in my lifetime. Pretty sweet/pants-wetting.
U
usirchchris
Guest
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/2899922
I've recently learned that the rapture will not take place until everyone on the planet has heard the gospel. We're not even close to that.
If going with the christian tradition...not even Gabriel knows when the world will end...thus I don't think it could be predicted 100's of years ago, by a tribe, and would easily rule this out IMO.
http:///forum/post/2899922
I've recently learned that the rapture will not take place until everyone on the planet has heard the gospel. We're not even close to that.
If going with the christian tradition...not even Gabriel knows when the world will end...thus I don't think it could be predicted 100's of years ago, by a tribe, and would easily rule this out IMO.
yearofthenick
Active Member
Originally Posted by usirchchris
http:///forum/post/2899927
If going with the christian tradition...not even Gabriel knows when the world will end...thus I don't think it could be predicted 100's of years ago, by a tribe, and would easily rule this out IMO.
Lets say everyone DOES hear the gospel... it may still be a while. Basically I'm agreeing with you that no one knows when the world will end. But the point I was making in my earlier post is that it's certainly not going to happen by 2012, and it's because of the reasons I outlined further down in that post.
But lets be honest, people talk about the end of the world (or rapture) because it's in the bible. I think the rapture and bible-based religion go hand in hand. If you don't believe in the bible, you probably don't believe in there being a rapture.
http:///forum/post/2899927
If going with the christian tradition...not even Gabriel knows when the world will end...thus I don't think it could be predicted 100's of years ago, by a tribe, and would easily rule this out IMO.
Lets say everyone DOES hear the gospel... it may still be a while. Basically I'm agreeing with you that no one knows when the world will end. But the point I was making in my earlier post is that it's certainly not going to happen by 2012, and it's because of the reasons I outlined further down in that post.
But lets be honest, people talk about the end of the world (or rapture) because it's in the bible. I think the rapture and bible-based religion go hand in hand. If you don't believe in the bible, you probably don't believe in there being a rapture.
yearofthenick
Active Member
Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2899928
My personal take on this 2012 thing is that somehow the myans knew when the sun would run out of juice, either that or they didn't think they would be wiped from the face of the earth and had plenty of time to finish the calender later....
I agree. I think it's just a coincidence that we're blowing out of proportion.
The society we live in today LOVES to make something out of nothing. We're so paranoid. Just shut up and live! Or board up your windows and doors and wait for the impending DOOM. Seriously, carp or get off the pot.
http:///forum/post/2899928
My personal take on this 2012 thing is that somehow the myans knew when the sun would run out of juice, either that or they didn't think they would be wiped from the face of the earth and had plenty of time to finish the calender later....
I agree. I think it's just a coincidence that we're blowing out of proportion.
The society we live in today LOVES to make something out of nothing. We're so paranoid. Just shut up and live! Or board up your windows and doors and wait for the impending DOOM. Seriously, carp or get off the pot.
U
usirchchris
Guest
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/2899929
Lets say everyone DOES hear the gospel... it may still be a while. Basically I'm agreeing with you that no one knows when the world will end. But the point I was making in my earlier post is that it's certainly not going to happen by 2012, and it's because of the reasons I outlined further down in that post.
But lets be honest, people talk about the end of the world (or rapture) because it's in the bible. I think the rapture and bible-based religion go hand in hand. If you don't believe in the bible, you probably don't believe in there being a rapture.
I added my piece in addition to what you were saying...wasn't stating you were wrong if that is what you implied
. Still the part about everyone hearing the gospel is slightly difficult or confusing. How many births occur every second...each one would have to be simultaneously told, and in the same second the world would have to end, and still I bet in this time another would be born
...7 days to make a planet...maybe it could be pulled off
http:///forum/post/2899929
Lets say everyone DOES hear the gospel... it may still be a while. Basically I'm agreeing with you that no one knows when the world will end. But the point I was making in my earlier post is that it's certainly not going to happen by 2012, and it's because of the reasons I outlined further down in that post.
But lets be honest, people talk about the end of the world (or rapture) because it's in the bible. I think the rapture and bible-based religion go hand in hand. If you don't believe in the bible, you probably don't believe in there being a rapture.
I added my piece in addition to what you were saying...wasn't stating you were wrong if that is what you implied
sickboy
Active Member
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/2899922
Also, it says that in the end times there will be a singular (or world) government and with that will come a world currency. We're already heading that way with the "Amero" to replace the US Dollar, Canadian Dollar and Peso. That coupled with the euro and yen being two other major currencies, it's only a matter of time before we get to a world currency. But again, it will be a LOOONG time before that happens.
What says this??
Let me get this straight, the closer we get to world peace is the closer we get to the end? Is that the ultimate goal, that everyone gets along? I say world peace b/c until we have a unifying body, with equal voices, currency, etc, we will not have world peace. If there are religious 'states' (Christian, Jewish, or Muslim), we will not have peace (unless by peace you mean slaughtering all of the other one).
But again, I hope it happens soon. I love my life, and now that I know my wife has a bun in the oven I don't want my child's life to end early, but if any of the religion's are true, I want my family to go to the next life as it apparently blows this one away.
http:///forum/post/2899922
Also, it says that in the end times there will be a singular (or world) government and with that will come a world currency. We're already heading that way with the "Amero" to replace the US Dollar, Canadian Dollar and Peso. That coupled with the euro and yen being two other major currencies, it's only a matter of time before we get to a world currency. But again, it will be a LOOONG time before that happens.
What says this??
Let me get this straight, the closer we get to world peace is the closer we get to the end? Is that the ultimate goal, that everyone gets along? I say world peace b/c until we have a unifying body, with equal voices, currency, etc, we will not have world peace. If there are religious 'states' (Christian, Jewish, or Muslim), we will not have peace (unless by peace you mean slaughtering all of the other one).
But again, I hope it happens soon. I love my life, and now that I know my wife has a bun in the oven I don't want my child's life to end early, but if any of the religion's are true, I want my family to go to the next life as it apparently blows this one away.
yearofthenick
Active Member
Originally Posted by usirchchris
http:///forum/post/2899931
How many births occur every second...each one would have to be simultaneously told, and in the same second the world would have to end, and still I bet in this time another would be born
...7 days to make a planet...maybe it could be pulled off
that's a good point. I have no idea how to answer that question except to say that there must be a window of age... I highly doubt we'll have to throw the bible at newborns haha! That's some psycho-spirituality right there.
http:///forum/post/2899931
How many births occur every second...each one would have to be simultaneously told, and in the same second the world would have to end, and still I bet in this time another would be born
that's a good point. I have no idea how to answer that question except to say that there must be a window of age... I highly doubt we'll have to throw the bible at newborns haha! That's some psycho-spirituality right there.
sickboy
Active Member
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/2899934
that's a good point. I have no idea how to answer that question except to say that there must be a window of age... I highly doubt we'll have to throw the bible at newborns haha! That's some psycho-spirituality right there.
Well, isn't the 'age of reason' 7? but then again, you would have to get to all of those newborns 7 years later...
problem still not solved....
http:///forum/post/2899934
that's a good point. I have no idea how to answer that question except to say that there must be a window of age... I highly doubt we'll have to throw the bible at newborns haha! That's some psycho-spirituality right there.
Well, isn't the 'age of reason' 7? but then again, you would have to get to all of those newborns 7 years later...
problem still not solved....
yearofthenick
Active Member
Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2899933
What says this??
Let me get this straight, the closer we get to world peace is the closer we get to the end? Is that the ultimate goal, that everyone gets along?
This is a can of worms, and out of respect for ruaround I don't want to turn this into a religious thread. But suffice it to say that the bible clearly distinguishes from the "last days" and the "last day." Google it - really interesting stuff.
From my own personal opinion, I don't know what kind of method will be used. I sincerely hope we end up with a unified gov't and currency... that would be awesome.
Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2899933
I say world peace b/c until we have a unifying body, with equal voices, currency, etc, we will not have world peace. If there are religious 'states' (Christian, Jewish, or Muslim), we will not have peace (unless by peace you mean slaughtering all of the other one).
I don't think that will happen. Hitler did it once and it was so gruesome and horrid that i don't think it will ever be repeated in history. My theory is that there will be an acceptance of other religions, just like there's already an acceptance of other races.
Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2899933
But again, I hope it happens soon. I love my life, and now that I know my wife has a bun in the oven I don't want my child's life to end early, but if any of the religion's are true, I want my family to go to the next life as it apparently blows this one away.
Just make sure you're going... wherever that is. Search for the truth. IMO that's all you need to do... search for the truth about all the religions and see which ones sound more credible than others.
http:///forum/post/2899933
What says this??
Let me get this straight, the closer we get to world peace is the closer we get to the end? Is that the ultimate goal, that everyone gets along?
This is a can of worms, and out of respect for ruaround I don't want to turn this into a religious thread. But suffice it to say that the bible clearly distinguishes from the "last days" and the "last day." Google it - really interesting stuff.
From my own personal opinion, I don't know what kind of method will be used. I sincerely hope we end up with a unified gov't and currency... that would be awesome.
Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2899933
I say world peace b/c until we have a unifying body, with equal voices, currency, etc, we will not have world peace. If there are religious 'states' (Christian, Jewish, or Muslim), we will not have peace (unless by peace you mean slaughtering all of the other one).
I don't think that will happen. Hitler did it once and it was so gruesome and horrid that i don't think it will ever be repeated in history. My theory is that there will be an acceptance of other religions, just like there's already an acceptance of other races.
Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2899933
But again, I hope it happens soon. I love my life, and now that I know my wife has a bun in the oven I don't want my child's life to end early, but if any of the religion's are true, I want my family to go to the next life as it apparently blows this one away.
Just make sure you're going... wherever that is. Search for the truth. IMO that's all you need to do... search for the truth about all the religions and see which ones sound more credible than others.
U
usirchchris
Guest
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/2899934
that's a good point. I have no idea how to answer that question except to say that there must be a window of age... I highly doubt we'll have to throw the bible at newborns haha! That's some psycho-spirituality right there.
yeah, think infants get to pass go and collect 200...don't think you are accountable until you can differentiate right from wrong. Goes along with the Adam and Eve thing...when they became "aware". There is a term, but it is escaping me at the moment.
http:///forum/post/2899934
that's a good point. I have no idea how to answer that question except to say that there must be a window of age... I highly doubt we'll have to throw the bible at newborns haha! That's some psycho-spirituality right there.
yeah, think infants get to pass go and collect 200...don't think you are accountable until you can differentiate right from wrong. Goes along with the Adam and Eve thing...when they became "aware". There is a term, but it is escaping me at the moment.
yearofthenick
Active Member
Originally Posted by sickboy
http:///forum/post/2899937
Well, isn't the 'age of reason' 7? but then again, you would have to get to all of those newborns 7 years later...
problem still not solved....
well if that's true and the rapture comes at a single point, then all the 6 1/2 year-olds will get a go-to-heaven-free card. Man I hope I'm 6 1/2 when the rapture comes.... wait, uhh..
Seriously though, if the rapture comes and you're 2 years old, why do you get to go to heaven? What if the rapture didn't come, and that 2 year old grew up an atheist and died an atheist... doesn't sound too fair to me. I can't help but wonder if when the rapture comes, that God will keep all of those factors in mind. I mean, he knows the future, so why not?
Dude, I have no idea.
http:///forum/post/2899937
Well, isn't the 'age of reason' 7? but then again, you would have to get to all of those newborns 7 years later...
problem still not solved....
well if that's true and the rapture comes at a single point, then all the 6 1/2 year-olds will get a go-to-heaven-free card. Man I hope I'm 6 1/2 when the rapture comes.... wait, uhh..
Seriously though, if the rapture comes and you're 2 years old, why do you get to go to heaven? What if the rapture didn't come, and that 2 year old grew up an atheist and died an atheist... doesn't sound too fair to me. I can't help but wonder if when the rapture comes, that God will keep all of those factors in mind. I mean, he knows the future, so why not?
Dude, I have no idea.
sickboy
Active Member
Originally Posted by YearOfTheNick
http:///forum/post/2899941
Just make sure you're going... wherever that is. Search for the truth. IMO that's all you need to do... search for the truth about all the religions and see which ones sound more credible than others.
Thats all that matters IMO as well. And I didn't mean to go against RU's message about not bringing a religious battle into it, I was just stating what I thought it would take to make world peace, and acceptance of religion is exactly what I was thinking!
http:///forum/post/2899941
Just make sure you're going... wherever that is. Search for the truth. IMO that's all you need to do... search for the truth about all the religions and see which ones sound more credible than others.
Thats all that matters IMO as well. And I didn't mean to go against RU's message about not bringing a religious battle into it, I was just stating what I thought it would take to make world peace, and acceptance of religion is exactly what I was thinking!
lovethesea
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flpriest
Member
Originally Posted by lovethesea
http:///forum/post/2900009
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/2012/
Looks like a good movie! I can't wait till it comes out on DVD.
http:///forum/post/2900009
http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/2012/
Looks like a good movie! I can't wait till it comes out on DVD.